Recommendation I'm a failed-normie public school teacher on the verge of roping. Should I do TEFL?

Mr.FailedChad said:
I'm currently working on that. Honestly, a big reason I want to go to Thailand is that I currently have enough saved to last about 6 months there. I'd like to spend that time working out and cutting weight. After that, I think I'll be able to make a much clearer decision about my career and life goals.
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It'll be harder to cut when you're surrounded by tons of yuumy street food just a heads up. And while sure it might be healthier asian food still has tons of salt and msg and other bad shit in their food
 
fjor2096 said:
:ROFLMAO:
Pero en serio, porque quieres ir a tailandia en vez de ir al latam? Estoy convencido de que seria mas facil geomaxxear ahi cuando ya conoces la cultura y sabes el idioma.
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Es verdad eso pero también siempre he querido ir a Asia (era bien weeb cuando estaba chiquito). Además, la industria TEFL está mucho más fuerte en Tailandia. Conozco a maestros de inglés en México que ni ganan suificiente pa vivir mientras en Tailandia (y otras partes de Asia) te pagan bien. Te cobras un buen estándar de vida. SI quisiera ir a América Latina tendría que encontrarme un trabajo en una escuela internacional pero no hay tantas y para las escuelas de allá es mucho más difícil contratar a profes del extranjero. Por un lado sé que tienes razón pero por otro lado quiero tener una aventura y conocer una parte del mundo que siempre me ha interesado.
 
fjor2096 said:
It'll be harder to cut when you're surrounded by tons of yuumy street food just a heads up. And while sure it might be healthier asian food still has tons of salt and msg and other bad shit in their food
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That is good to know.
 
You want to go to Vietnam for the TEFLing. It's the highest paid market outside of China, of which the TEFL industry has basically imploded, and since you have an actual degree, and a degree in education at that, you should be able to land a very good job with benefits at a prestigious institution instead of the shitty merry go round language centers and public schools.

Normally I try to steer young guys away from TEFLing because it is an awful waste of your life and its not actually a real industry and the jobs arent real either, but in your case you are an *actual* teacher, and stand to be able to make a decent living and build a life overseas if you so choose. That being said, some of the same advice applies: try to build a secondary skill before you go. Marketing, programming - something, in case the industry collapses, or you get sick of teaching.

Yes Thailand has awesome whoremongering, but the TEFL scene is abusive precisely because every phaggot on the planet wants to be there and fund the beer and ladyboys lifestyle. The thais are well aware and know there is no shortage of white man anytime soon, so they will treat you accordingly. OTOH: again, you having an actual education degree changes the landscape considerably. Most people in TEFL are either high school dropouts or they have some irrelevant mickey mouse degree like marketing or gender studies. I can't speak to what the job opportunities look like for serious teachers in Thailand.
 
Mark_Rippetoe said:
You want to go to Vietnam for the TEFLing. It's the highest paid market outside of China, of which the TEFL industry has basically imploded, and since you have an actual degree, and a degree in education at that, you should be able to land a very good job with benefits at a prestigious institution instead of the shitty merry go round language centers and public schools.

Normally I try to steer young guys away from TEFLing because it is an awful waste of your life and its not actually a real industry and the jobs arent real either, but in your case you are an *actual* teacher, and stand to be able to make a decent living and build a life overseas if you so choose. That being said, some of the same advice applies: try to build a secondary skill before you go. Marketing, programming - something, in case the industry collapses, or you get sick of teaching.

Yes Thailand has awesome whoremongering, but the TEFL scene is abusive precisely because every phaggot on the planet wants to be there and fund the beer and ladyboys lifestyle. The thais are well aware and know there is no shortage of white man anytime soon, so they will treat you accordingly. OTOH: again, you having an actual education degree changes the landscape considerably. Most people in TEFL are either high school dropouts or they have some irrelevant mickey mouse degree like marketing or gender studies. I can't speak to what the job opportunities look like for serious teachers in Thailand.
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I've heard that Vietnam is very good (all of SE Asia seems to be the best right now as far as pay is concerned). That said, other than Apollo English I'm not too familiar with the EFL/ESL chains they have there. You seem quite familiar on the topic so are there any you recommend? In particular, what are the best sites to find jobs in Vietnam (other than Dave's ESL)?
 
Mr.FailedChad said:
I've heard that Vietnam is very good (all of SE Asia seems to be the best right now as far as pay is concerned). That said, other than Apollo English I'm not too familiar with the EFL/ESL chains they have there. You seem quite familiar on the topic so are there any you recommend? In particular, what are the best sites to find jobs in Vietnam (other than Dave's ESL)?
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Bro 99% of the teaching jobs in vietnam are on facebook. Viets fucking love facebook.

At the end of the day most of them are the same. If you end up posted at a good school where the teachers enforce standards and the kids are well behaved, its cruisy. If you end up at one where the teachers dont care and the kids are all retarded, which is a lot of them, you will want to commit genocide (in minecraft)

I would recommend getting in contact with this guy/buying his service. https://www.youtube.com/@rebornabroad/featured
Unfortunately he nuked his previous youtube channel which is a crying shame since it was the most abundant, no bullshit, ubiquitous vlog resource of everything about working in vietnam. However he still runs the service where he hooks you up with everyone you would ever need - visa agents (most important), rental people, employers and so on.
 
Mark_Rippetoe said:
Bro 99% of the teaching jobs in vietnam are on facebook. Viets fucking love facebook.

At the end of the day most of them are the same. If you end up posted at a good school where the teachers enforce standards and the kids are well behaved, its cruisy. If you end up at one where the teachers dont care and the kids are all retarded, which is a lot of them, you will want to commit genocide (in minecraft)

I would recommend getting in contact with this guy/buying his service. https://www.youtube.com/@rebornabroad/featured
Unfortunately he nuked his previous youtube channel which is a crying shame since it was the most abundant, no bullshit, ubiquitous vlog resource of everything about working in vietnam. However he still runs the service where he hooks you up with everyone you would ever need - visa agents (most important), rental people, employers and so on.
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i want to go to one where i can fuck vietnamese girls
 
geomaxer said:
i want to go to one where i can fuck vietnamese girls
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If you're white thats literally everywhere in vietnam. Even average looking white guys have it easy there. If you're actually making any effort towards your appearance at all and are in good shape, holy shit.
 
Mark_Rippetoe said:
If you're white thats literally everywhere in vietnam. Even average looking white guys have it easy there. If you're actually making any effort towards your appearance at all and are in good shape, holy shit.
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have you been there? i get zero attention from vietnanese girls in the us and i live in asian capital of california. this counts fobs.
 
Mr.FailedChad said:
In the end, what was it that compelled you to leave? Was it the coof?
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The coof was the nail in the coffin, but I had my fill well before that. It's very easy for the fly by night types who are more or less living as illegal immigrants, to see VN as just a chill party place but when you actually try to build a real life there and interact with the system in a meaningful way, you quickly get reminded that it is indeed a socialist shithole.

I also never felt comfortable being an English teacher there, like the bottom might fall out any second (as it did in China). Its why I bang on to the young fellas so much about having a location-independent skillset BEFORE you go.
 
Mark_Rippetoe said:
The coof was the nail in the coffin, but I had my fill well before that. It's very easy for the fly by night types who are more or less living as illegal immigrants, to see VN as just a chill party place but when you actually try to build a real life there and interact with the system in a meaningful way, you quickly get reminded that it is indeed a socialist shithole.

I also never felt comfortable being an English teacher there, like the bottom might fall out any second (as it did in China). Its why I bang on to the young fellas so much about having a location-independent skillset BEFORE you go.
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This makes sense. Thanks for replying.
 
Mark_Rippetoe said:
The coof was the nail in the coffin, but I had my fill well before that. It's very easy for the fly by night types who are more or less living as illegal immigrants, to see VN as just a chill party place but when you actually try to build a real life there and interact with the system in a meaningful way, you quickly get reminded that it is indeed a socialist shithole.

I also never felt comfortable being an English teacher there, like the bottom might fall out any second (as it did in China). Its why I bang on to the young fellas so much about having a location-independent skillset BEFORE you go.
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What are you doing now? Just working 9 to 5 office job in the west? @Mark_Rippetoe
 
Coffee7382 said:
What are you doing now? Just working 9 to 5 office job in the west? @Mark_Rippetoe
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Pretty much, yep. I'm contemplating getting a trade under my belt, welding perhaps. I honestly believe there is a titanic level iceberg coming for this economy and it is going to brutally wipe out anyone who doesn't have a highly essential skill. We've already seen the beginning of massive layoffs of the high paid but fake make work positions in tech, there will be blood.
 
fjor2096 said:
:ROFLMAO:
Pero en serio, porque quieres ir a tailandia en vez de ir al latam? Estoy convencido de que seria mas facil geomaxxear ahi cuando ya conoces la cultura y sabes el idioma.
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Pudiera ascender facilmente en Argentina o Uruguay.
 
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