Moving to Russia or the Baltics to find a platinum blonde wife

[14passport]

Why the hell should a top-tier woman give your normie tier looking ass a shot then? Because it would be nice? Cause you got good personality? (let’s be honest if you are on this forum, you do not have a crazy level of charismatic personality lolz)

If you are a normie tier looking dude, it would be ludicrous for you to think that you can do normal people things with a top tier woman considering without the money, she is way out of your league. You can do normal people things IF you are a top-tier looking guy yourself.

Being able to spend up to 10K USD/month is not an absurd amount of money to date top tier white women. If this is an absurd amount of money, simply put these women are clearly out of your league. Go to SEA, go get you your 5 or 6, and stay in your lane.

I think most people don't understand what a top tier women is and their lifestyle

You are 100% spot on if we are talking about 8s and up

And 10k$ in western europe would fall short, youre gonna need to spend a lot more than that

 

[Yuezhi]

Im not a normie tier dude looks wise, i find it difficult to believe i couldn't get a 7.5 to soft 8 looksmatching spending close to 3k a month with no rent so that would still allow me to save a bit, that sounds absurd on its face.

Do you guys think there are a million millionaires in russia or something lol?

Lets check the math on this for Moscow:
The city has about 30k people who have at least 1 million usd according to

Number of dollar millionaires living in Moscow decreases by 25% over past decade

In 2025, Moscow ranked 40th on the list of the world’s richest cities according to Henley & Partners, down two spots from last year

tass.com

So this includes people who have at least a million in assets meaning property and other assets that aren't necessarily liquid and that won't generate much income.
For the ones that do at the lower end with a conservative withdrawal rate of 4 percent that's 40k a year which is less than what I'd be making as a teacher in Moscow since again NO rent if I was employed at one of thos schools and I doubt guys blow their entire income like that.

Moscow has at least 12 million people and 16 million by some estimates if you count the outer areas of the urban sprawl. It has at least 1.2 million women from ages 20 to 30. It is impossible for every stacylite to get a rich guy even if there are 3 girls going for evry rich guy having harems or something lol, the numbers just dont add up.

Out of curiosity what do you guys consider 8s? While I'm particular to my type I still see a good amount of them in videos like this

 

[14passport]

Im not a normie tier dude looks wise, i find it difficult to believe i couldn't get a 7.5 to soft 8 looksmatching spending close to 3k a month with no rent so that would still allow me to save a bit, that sounds absurd on its face.

Do you guys think there are a million millionaires in russia or something lol?

Lets check the math on this for Moscow:
The city has about 30k people who have at least 1 million usd according to

Number of dollar millionaires living in Moscow decreases by 25% over past decade

In 2025, Moscow ranked 40th on the list of the world’s richest cities according to Henley & Partners, down two spots from last year

tass.com

So this includes people who have at least a million in assets meaning property and other assets that aren't necessarily liquid and that won't generate much income.
For the ones that do at the lower end with a conservative withdrawal rate of 4 percent that's 40k a year which is less than what I'd be making as a teacher in Moscow since again NO rent if I was employed at one of thos schools and I doubt guys blow their entire income like that.

Moscow has at least 12 million people and 16 million by some estimates if you count the outer areas of the urban sprawl. It has at least 1.2 million women from ages 20 to 30. It is impossible for every stacylite to get a rich guy even if there are 3 girls going for evry rich guy having harems or something lol, the numbers just dont add up.

Out of curiosity what do you guys consider 8s? While I'm particular to my type I still see a good amount of them in videos like this

Do you know how rare 8s truly are?
We are talking about sub 5% of the population, closer to 1%.

And why would you assume all of them go for rich guys?
The % of 8s going for rich guys is not high, as all women, attraction comes first, and they can get hot guys willing to spend 3-4k$/month, why would they be with you?

 

[Yuezhi]

Do you know how rare 8s truly are?
We are talking about sub 5% of the population, closer to 1%.

And why would you assume all of them go for rich guys?
The % of 8s going for rich guys is not high, as all women, attraction comes first, and they can get hot guys willing to spend 3-4k$/month, why would they be with you?

Well for light blondes it is probably more difficult since there are less of them but thats why I'd go Petersburg where there are way less rich guys. I can compromise for a regular blonde at this point worst case.

Maybe my definition of a white 8 is not the same as a typical Russian 8 since I'd say more than 5% of girls fit an 8 but looks get a bit subjective on the higher end.
Anyways if we take the 5% number thats at least 60k girls and if we include girls that are slightly less hot the number increases a lot.

A subset of that 30k of rich dudes fits the requirements of being both good looking and being able to spend at least 3-4k so it's less than 30k dudes plus a small amount of other decent looking guys making a similar income from jobs or a bit higher that id be competing with.

You guys are implying money matters more than looks and game there.
In this situation i would seem to have at least 2 out of the 3 requirements down and it's not like my game is that bad either. Just need to learn fluent Russian.

The only negative I see is not being ethnically Russian and having grown up there but Russian women seem to like meds the best after their own men.

 

[14passport]

You guys are implying money matters more than looks and game there.

No but considering the forum we are in and the kind of stuff you post. I don't think there's any chance you have looks nor game to get 8s.

 

[Yuezhi]

No but considering the forum we are in and the kind of stuff you post. I don't think there's any chance you have looks nor game to get 8s.

All I did was provide actual numbers and you resort to a personal attack lmao

 

[Lebensraum]

I think most people don't understand what a top tier women is and their lifestyle

You are 100% spot on if we are talking about 8s and up

And 10k$ in western europe would fall short, youre gonna need to spend a lot more than that

I think that's just not true. If you mean gold diggers, sure, but you can have a McDonald's cashier with 9/10 bone structure. I'd rather date the latter not a bimbo obsessed with Gucci bags. How would you even spend 10k on "lifestyle", it's just bizarre.

The amount of Stacies and Stacylites combined DWARF men who would be willing and able to just comfortably waste 10k$ a month.

If you are a paypig and literally walking ATM for her, then yeah, I can understand that as fetish or ultimate desperation, but how could a man like that respect himself?

Realistically, in EE or Russia no sane person needs to spend more than 4-5k$ on themselves max. 10k$ would be okay for a large family of 5 living lavishly.

Seriously, it just doens't make sense. The numbers don't add up.

Maybe you are referring to A list celebrities or something, but regular Stacies and Stacylites don't really need 10k$. Even presidents of democractic EE states earn like 6k a month and they are like alphas of all alphas lol

 

[biggunsar]

It's ungodly amount of money to just be "spending on a woman". Any sane many who has made it that far probabably psends like 10% of his monthly income MAX on woman, which means 10k would be like 100k$ a month, which like 1.2m$ a year which is unreal and almost nobody is making that money. That's like 0.01%, not especially in EE or Russia. Where would you even spend it.

I have dated attractive white women before, so they are in my league.

as i have said in other posts. if she REALLY loves you. she won't want ANYTHING.

but that usually happens early teens early 20's. once she's over that. Its' about "what can i get" its' basically as soon as she realizes, her pussy is a commodity.

THATS when the feminists think women have the intelligence to begin. The truth is. it's when feminists know that's when they control men.

 

[biggunsar]

i am just going to say this. If i gotta pay 3k or 10k for pussy a month, because she's "top tier"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAh
i will take a 6, and make sure her body is fucking rocking (either nice rocking ass or hot as fuck tits) and her pussy is tight. Thank you very much.

Or fuck girls of negotiable value, that are as hot as those "top tier" for 1/50th of that price.

top tier women can suck another mans dick for that bullshit. Sorry. AIN"T GONNA DO IT

in the end its pussy that you will get tired of. FUCK THAT 3k HAHAHA 10k HAHAHA.
stay in my lane. HAHAHA. even if i made 1 mil a month I STILL would not pay that. NO WAY NO HOW.
NO FUCKING WAY

who ever is doing that. Is retarded. END OF STORY

 

[Lebensraum]

I mean, let's be real, here's your typical "Stacy" or "Stacylite" or whatever.

Just a legitimately HOT girl working at grocery store in Russia or Ukraine or whatever.

NO, you don't need to spend 10k$ a month on her, but that doesn't mean you can be a loser either.



inb4 "she's a Becky", stfu, she's objectively hot unless you are into plastic dolls with fake tits and lip fillers and all that bs. I found those women to be LESS attractive than normal looking girls like this one.

 

[Lebensraum]

i am just going to say this. If i gotta pay 3k or 10k for pussy a month, because she's "top tier"

Right, even if you were to fuck an escort two times per week, it would be less than 10k lol

 

[Lebensraum]

and they can get hot guys willing to spend 3-4k$/month, why would they be with you?

Because the amount of "hot guys" who are willing to spend 4k$ a month of a woman you can count on fingers.
Attractive women are way more abundant in RU than multi-millionaire men.
Yes, I mean MULTI-millionaire, because if you only have 1 million net worth, you won't just be burning 4k a month for no reason.

So according to your standards, we are talking about "hot guys" who have 5-10$ mil NW MINIMUM + are retarded enough to spend 5-10k$ a month on a gold digger.

How many fit the bill in RU/UA? Not many.

How many hot women there are? Literally on every block working in Starbucks.

 

[14passport]

I think that's just not true. If you mean gold diggers, sure, but you can have a McDonald's cashier with 9/10 bone structure. I'd rather date the latter not a bimbo obsessed with Gucci bags. How would you even spend 10k on "lifestyle", it's just bizarre.

The amount of Stacies and Stacylites combined DWARF men who would be willing and able to just comfortably waste 10k$ a month.

If you are a paypig and literally walking ATM for her, then yeah, I can understand that as fetish or ultimate desperation, but how could a man like that respect himself?

Realistically, in EE or Russia no sane person needs to spend more than 4-5k$ on themselves max. 10k$ would be okay for a large family of 5 living lavishly.

Seriously, it just doens't make sense. The numbers don't add up.

Maybe you are referring to A list celebrities or something, but regular Stacies and Stacylites don't really need 10k$. Even presidents of democractic EE states earn like 6k a month and they are like alphas of all alphas lol

We are talking about a normie getting 8s, for that you need a lot of money

10k$ is not that much = good appartment in a trendy area, vacations to the popular spots, mantaining her shopping/fashion/nails/hair, restaurants, rooftops, parties

 

[14passport]

I mean, let's be real, here's your typical "Stacy" or "Stacylite" or whatever.

Just a legitimately HOT girl working at grocery store in Russia or Ukraine or whatever.

NO, you don't need to spend 10k$ a month on her, but that doesn't mean you can be a loser either.

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inb4 "she's a Becky", stfu, she's objectively hot unless you are into plastic dolls with fake tits and lip fillers and all that bs. I found those women to be LESS attractive than normal looking girls like this one.

This girl is not an 8, i would say she is not even a 7
more like a 6.5

we are not talking about the same things

and im not saying you need to get 8s, i would be more than happy with someone like her
but the convo they were having was about 8s not 6s

 

[Lebensraum]

10k$ is not that much = good appartment in a trendy area, vacations to the popular spots, mantaining her shopping/fashion/nails/hair, restaurants, rooftops, parties

10k$ is an ungodly amount and i'm tired of pretending it's not.

10k$ a month JUST ON WOMAN implies you make at least 5x COMFORTABLY, which implies 50k$ a month, which implies 600k$ a year which is miles above average income in ANY country on this planet.

I'm 99% sure there is literally nobody on geomax.me making half a million a year from their actual job (gambling cryptos doesn't count, since it's not stable). People making suhc insane amounts are shrewd business men and they are usually far from "normies" anyway.

Anyone claiming otherwise is:
1) Humbleragging (pretending they don't see 10k$ monthly expenses on a bitch as a big deal, I see right through your psychology)
2) Delusional

 

[Lebensraum]

This girl is not an 8, i would say she is not even a 7
more like a 6.5

Okay, entertain me and post a 7, 8, 9, 10.
Are you referring to actual international Victoria Secret supermodels?
Then OKAY, yes, you'd need at least 10k$ a month to date famous international Victoria Secret supermodel. Probably 100k$ a month.
But there is literally not a single, living, breating person who has ever even visited geomax.me from their IP that will even come close to sniffing VS model's asshole, so it's useless to discuss.

 

[DarthSand]

In what world is 10k not a lot per month?

Also that girls an 8 you must be going for 11s and 12s lol

My sources tell me it’s not that hard and for guys that care about exact numbers with money a quick google search will tell you 10k a month is ultra rare there. The guys I know are getting girls in that range with far less less money. There aren’t that many millionaires there lol.

 

[Lebensraum]

In what world is 10k not a lot per month?

Also that girls an 8 you must be going for 11s and 12s lol

My sources tell me it’s not that hard and for guys that care about exact numbers with money a quick google search will tell you 10k a month is ultra rare there. The guys I know are getting girls in that range with far less less money. There aren’t that many millionaires there lol.

Yes, he's not being realistic.

And also, it's sometimes more about fame not wealth.

Even C-tier rappers have access to 8, 9/10 top of the line women due to clout alone.

Do you think they even remotely close to wasting 10k$ a month?

Do you know what array of escorts 10k$ per month would allow?

Literally choose your pick.

 

[14passport]

Okay, entertain me and post a 7, 8, 9, 10.
Are you referring to actual international Victoria Secret supermodels?
Then OKAY, yes, you'd need at least 10k$ a month to date famous international Victoria Secret supermodel. Probably 100k$ a month.
But there is literally not a single, living, breating person who has ever even visited geomax.me from their IP that will even come close to sniffing VS model's asshole, so it's useless to discuss.

yeah what do you think 8 is supposed to be?

10s are 1 out of tens of thousands
9s are 1 out of thousands
8s are 1 out of hundred

a random cute girl you see on the street is not 8

 

[Lebensraum]

yeah what do you think 8 is supposed to be?

10s are 1 out of tens of thousands
9s are 1 out of thousands
8s are 1 out of hundred

a random cute girl you see on the street is not 8

Okay, well, I disagree, but it's autistic to argue about girl rankings. To each their own.

I retain believ that 5/10 normie wasting 10k$ on a trophy wife is suboptimal and embaressing.

 

[EEmaxxer]

This girl is not an 8, i would say she is not even a 7
more like a 6.5

we are not talking about the same things

and im not saying you need to get 8s, i would be more than happy with someone like her
but the convo they were having was about 8s not 6s

Lolz that is exactly what I thought, she is like a 6.5…maybe a weak 7 at best. I would date her with gusto though. Solidly attractive but she ain’t no 8.

Honestly though, I wish the best for the OP though. All this talk ain’t much. What matters is what you experience boots on the ground. Hopefully you can come back to this thread and let us know how it actually is. Best of luck!

 

[Lebensraum]

Lolz that is exactly what I thought, she is like a 6.5…maybe a weak 7 at best. I would date her with gusto though. Solidly attractive but she ain’t no 8.

Honestly though, I wish the best for the OP though. All this talk ain’t much. What matters is what you experience boots on the ground. Hopefully you can come back to this thread and let us know how it actually is. Best of luck!

So you are fucking girls like these on the regular if she is just a measly 6.5 to you? Right... sure...

As I said, either it's humblebragging or insane internet standards, real world is not pornhub.

 

[Yuezhi]

yeah what do you think 8 is supposed to be?

10s are 1 out of tens of thousands
9s are 1 out of thousands
8s are 1 out of hundred

a random cute girl you see on the street is not 8

I'm not really sure what the point of using a logarithmic scale is since virtually no one is going to get an 8 or higher and even 7s for many guys (which would all be 10s to me and that point). There's little value in creating seperate categories for 1 in 10000 vs 1 in 1000 but different strokes for different blokes.

Lolz that is exactly what I thought, she is like a 6.5…maybe a weak 7 at best. I would date her with gusto though. Solidly attractive but she ain’t no 8.

Honestly though, I wish the best for the OP though. All this talk ain’t much. What matters is what you experience boots on the ground. Hopefully you can come back to this thread and let us know how it actually is. Best of luck!

Anyways I also find the girl @Lebensraum posted hot and would be happy if a girl like that is achievable for me even in Moscow which i think i will be close to looksmatched with. As long as she is girlfriend/wife material and doesn't try to divorce me, that's what matters.

Still plan on taking that trip next year before I decide on a school. Hopefully there will still be vacant positions at schools that late in the game if I decide on Russia.

 

[ExcuseMe]

all this nitpicking about how many dollars a month you need for an 8, or whether an 8 is top 5% or top 1%, or whether the Russian cashier girl is a 7.5 or a 6.5 is very autistic and doesn't lead anywhere.
ultimately it boils down to something very simple: if you're going for women with clearly above-average looks, you need to stand out somehow. if you can stand out with your dashing Chad looks, then great, you don't need money. but if you don't have Chad looks, you need a lifestyle that will make the woman think "I want some of that". and such a lifestyle can get expensive.