Moving to Russia or the Baltics to find a platinum blonde wife (1 Viewer)

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While I am not looking to get married just yet, I am curious about where the best place in Europe would be to get this when I do consider settling down eventually.
While I am still likely going to China to teach in the near future, in all honestly I would like to find a way to geomax to northeastern Europe as I specifically prefer very light to platinum blonde haired girls and would like to live in a place where I can more easily assimilate relatively in, as if we're being honest you can never really do so in East Asia outside of maybe Hong Kong or Singapore.

My kryptonite is this phenotype specifically which I'd call the angel or elf type like so:

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From my research Russia and the Baltics are the best places for this since Scandinavia is off the table for obvious reasons. Via Chatgpt and Grok, specifically north eastern Russian and Moscow seem to be the best areas to look for that exact type of girl in that country which makes sense via the proximity to Scandinavia, with the locals being historically mixed with Finnic and Baltic tribes as well as Norse settlers during the Kievan Rus era.

Russia:

Regarding income, there are some international teaching jobs in Moscow and St Petersburg and I may be able to get a position in those places with 0 to little prior experience just because some schools are very desperate given the geopolitical tensions and therefore lack of western teacher applicants. However, there are a lot of caveats with going there at least until the war ends as an American citizen.
One in particular would be the difficulty in transferring money out of the country. However I do have dual citizenship with another western country so I could apply for a visa that way to reduce the risk of living there.

I'm considering doing this after getting a couple years of experience in China just to ensure that I like teaching and am fully committed by then, plus maybe the conflict will be over by then.

I've seen salaries at the 2nd tier schools that seem to average close to 3k post tax usd equivalent in Moscow and Petersburg and schools usually cover rent and utilities but I'm not sure if that would be enough to save a decent amount with how expensive Moscow can be. I'm thinking St Petersburg could be better as there would be more girls with the phenotype that I like but I remember reading that there were more feminist and hipster types there, although still a minority. Maybe it's gotten worse since the 2010s in that regard.
I also know 0 Russian so would have to work on learning that along with Chinese which is not that conducive. I might be able to also luck out and get a position at the better schools and get more money but that often comes with an increased workload.

Another thing with Russian girls from what I understand is that a some are of the more gold diggerish type in the bigger cities and prefer a macho guy who needs to lead them 100% of the time. I have read many reports of how they can be quite manipulative and cold and you have to have very strong frame with them which is not something I'd like to deal with as I want a girl who is submissive and intelligent and is not an ice queen trying to play crazy mind games and test me most of the time(most women do test you occasionally but this is another level). Can i find girls like this in these cities?

I could also try looking in places like Tver, Pskov, Veliky Novgorod, Petrozavodsk and Murmansk while teaching in either of the biggest cities when I have time off during the summer. Problem is these places have 200-400k people so they are a bit on the smaller side and probably have less attractive women since more of them would have moved to the bigger cities.

Baltics and Belarus:

I did briefly pass through the Baltics when I was younger and do remember seeing some girls that looked like this in Latvia and Estonia and to a lesser extent Lithuania and much lesser so, Poland. Problem is those countries are supposedly more westernized but they'd be easier to live in outside of salary concerns of which subject teaching jobs pay poorly outside of the top schools for the most part which i may be able to get jobs at with some more experience. So would finding a wife material girl be more difficult in these places?

I'd try Belarus as well but not sure about teaching jobs there. Llms have also told me there are less platinum blondes there, anyone been there to confirm?

Me:

My stats by the time I would go if i delay this for a few years would likely be early 30s, 5'11, HTN+ to Chadlite since by then I'll be in shape. Im also Mediterranean looking. While I act NT for the most part, I may still slip up here and there but the cultural barrier would probably smooth that over if its still otherwise a slight issue.
 
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Are you American? You can get a 3 year tourist or business visa for Russia that allows you to stay in the country 6 months at a time.

Then there's also the Shared values Visa. Gives you 3 months to enter Russia and apply for temporary (3 year) residency, which can take up to 6 months to be approved. You gotta get an FBI background check in USA and have that Apostilled in America, then submit it to the immigration authorities when applying for your residency in Russia. You should also get your birth certificate apostilled. There are no language, history or law requirements for applying for this visa or temporary residency. No quotas either (limit on how many applications can be approved). Once you have your temporary residency you can live and work anywhere in the region you applied at for the next three years. You also have instant free healthcare. After about 8 months or a year you can then apply for permanent residency if you're able to pass a Russian language, law and history test. Permanent residency is good for 5 years and will allow you to live and work anywhere in Russia. It will also allow you to enter and exit the country without a visa.

The only bad thing about this visa is that you have to apply in person. A short trip to the consulate in Houston, NYC, Seattle, or maybe Washington DC. Houston definitely will work though. You have to apply in person and you might need to wait six months renting an apartment in Russia without being able to work. $4 - 6k USD should be more than enough if you're experienced with traveling and living on your own.

Anyways, an American passport is actually one of the best you can have for living in Russia.
 
Eurocel here.

5'11 is average to slightly-below-average height in the Baltics. this area isn't popular for geomaxxing because the local dudes are some of the biggest whitemoggers in the world.

as for Russia: it's a big and diverse country. Moscow in particular is a hub that gathered people from all corners of the Russian Empire / Soviet Union. so it's not as pale blonde as you might think. the same goes for Petersburg to a smaller extent. also in minor Russian cities (anywhere except Moscow and Petersburg) the language barrier is pretty bad. not the worst in the world though.

Another thing with Russian girls from what I understand is that a some are of the more gold diggerish type in the bigger cities and prefer a macho guy who needs to lead them 100% of the time. I have read many reports of how they can be quite manipulative and cold and you have to have very strong frame with them which is not something I'd like to deal with as I want a girl who is submissive and intelligent and is not an ice queen trying to play crazy mind games and test me most of the time(most women do test you occasionally but this is another level). Can i find girls like this in these cities?
Eastern and Northern European women are very culturally independent. they can act submissive, but only for men with higher SMVs than themselves.

I'd try Belarus as well but not sure about teaching jobs there. Llms have also told me there are less platinum blondes there, anyone been there to confirm?
if you want to know how people in a given country actually look, I suggest those PoV walking videos, like this one in Riga.
natural platinum blondes are not common anywhere. I emphasise "natural" because dyemaxxing is common. in fact platinum hairdye is now trendy among zoomer girls in Russia.

so yes - if you're looking for the easiEST places to get pale blonde women, then the Eastern Baltic is probably the easiest. but it's not easy by any means. as a 5'11 dude with a teacher's salary (not very high) and no fluency in local languages, I wouldn't get my hopes up for submissive elvish stacies. I suggest you visit this area for like a 2 week vacation just to gauge what kind of response you get from women.
 
so yes - if you're looking for the easiEST places to get pale blonde women, then the Eastern Baltic is probably the easiest. but it's not easy by any means. as a 5'11 dude with a teacher's salary (not very high) and no fluency in local languages, I wouldn't get my hopes up for submissive elvish stacies. I suggest you visit this area for like a 2 week vacation just to gauge what kind of response you get from women.
Russia definitely seems like it would be the best option overall then just due to its sheer population and having multiple cities as well even with the ratio of girls of that type being less there.

The salaries for private school subject teachers actually seem to be higher than I previously thought. After digging some more it appears Moscow schools pay closer to 4k usd post tax per month and Petersburg 3.5k per month which is better and changes the calculus a bit again with rent covered by a school. I'd imagine I might be able to ask for more as a CS/Math hs teacher since those subjects are probably difficult to fill and having a masters degree should also help.

I've actually watched that video before of Riga lol and also look at street yt videos in general,
definitely agree they're one of the best sources of what the locals actually look like but its also informative to know the opinions and observations of guys that have been to places. Latvia does seem to have slightly more percentage wise of this type than Estonia based on these, and not all of them seem to be fake unless they're dying their eyebrows as well.

I probably will take a trip to that region during one of the summers I get off in China and will try to visit Moscow and Petersburg as well.

Also a valid point about Moscow, I mentioned it since it would probably be slightly easier to get a job and live there with limited Russian as it also has more people than Petersburg. The latter still has over 6 million people and based on some street YouTube videos I still see some platinum blondes there, fake or not. Honestly, I could always just go for a girl with slightly darker blonde hair and have her dye it or go for one that already has if all else fails.

If I do go eventually go to Russia though I'll make an effort to learn the language and take some trips to the cities in the areas closest to Finland and Estonia. Petersburg would prob be where I'd try to end up although I'd have to try to get my psoriasis under control in the winters. According to gpt the avg guy in the 20s is half an inch less than my height so perhaps I'd have a better shot dating girls in the 7-8 range of this type than in the Baltics.

Would 3.5k usd a month after rent be enough per month to live comfortably and date there?
 
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Are you American? You can get a 3 year tourist or business visa for Russia that allows you to stay in the country 6 months at a time.

Then there's also the Shared values Visa. Gives you 3 months to enter Russia and apply for temporary (3 year) residency, which can take up to 6 months to be approved. You gotta get an FBI background check in USA and have that Apostilled in America, then submit it to the immigration authorities when applying for your residency in Russia. You should also get your birth certificate apostilled. There are no language, history or law requirements for applying for this visa or temporary residency. No quotas either (limit on how many applications can be approved). Once you have your temporary residency you can live and work anywhere in the region you applied at for the next three years. You also have instant free healthcare. After about 8 months or a year you can then apply for permanent residency if you're able to pass a Russian language, law and history test. Permanent residency is good for 5 years and will allow you to live and work anywhere in Russia. It will also allow you to enter and exit the country without a visa.

The only bad thing about this visa is that you have to apply in person. A short trip to the consulate in Houston, NYC, Seattle, or maybe Washington DC. Houston definitely will work though. You have to apply in person and you might need to wait six months renting an apartment in Russia without being able to work. $4 - 6k USD should be more than enough if you're experienced with traveling and living on your own.

Anyways, an American passport is actually one of the best you can have for living in Russia.
Yeah I'm American, I believe schools in Russia help you get and pay for a work visa but good to know about the other visa options. Might take advantage of those when I want to visit or if I want to pursue other types of work there in the future.
 
5'11 is average to slightly-below-average height in the Baltics. this area isn't popular for geomaxxing because the local dudes are some of the biggest whitemoggers in the world.

as for Russia: it's a big and diverse country.
It's true. Mogging in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine is way easier than in Baltics. Baltics have wealthier, taller and more attractive men with more liberal women. But in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus women put higher value on your wealth.
 
Eurocel here.

5'11 is average to slightly-below-average height in the Baltics. this area isn't popular for geomaxxing because the local dudes are some of the biggest whitemoggers in the world.
confirmed. it's over for normies in the baltics:

Lithuania is basically a European mogger tribe. That's why the women didn't give a shit about me. They would smile at an aggressively barking dog, but when looking at me they would make sure to not smile and look elsewhere quickly - better don't encourage that lowly guy to approach or something.
this is normal experience in Lithuania. I can easily slay in any part of the world, but not north europe. You can try creating chad profile on tinder and will still get shitty results in these countries. Women here are beyond delusional, I know many good looking guys here and they all struggling. It's over here. Women here chasing a guy that doesn't even exist in real world.
 
The salaries for private school subject teachers actually seem to be higher than I previously thought. After digging some more it appears Moscow schools pay closer to 4k usd post tax per month and Petersburg 3.5k per month which is better and changes the calculus a bit again with rent covered by a school. I'd imagine I might be able to ask for more as a CS/Math hs teacher since those subjects are probably difficult to fill and having a masters degree should also help.
If anything I'd imagine the opposite. Russians are pretty well educated in STEM subjects. meanwhile a native English speaker from the US, with teaching experience, living in Russia full time, is very rare.
 
It's true. Mogging in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine is way easier than in Baltics. Baltics have wealthier, taller and more attractive men with more liberal women. But in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus women put higher value on your wealth.

Agreed. But it seems a lot of blackpillers gets caught up on not “betabuxxing” even though they don’t got the looks to mog into the results they want in EE. Lolz
 
If anything I'd imagine the opposite. Russians are pretty well educated in STEM subjects. meanwhile a native English speaker from the US, with teaching experience, living in Russia full time, is very rare.
Well, qualified teachers(not tefl) that have a license and education degree like I will, seem to still be in demand regardless as there still apparently are enough rich parents in Russia that want their kids to get an education taught in English at a private school and will still pay good money for it.
Just to give you guys an idea of some of the jobs and salaries available taken from tes website https://www.tes.com/ for Moscow:

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There is definitely desperation with some of them wanting to hire for THIS september and some willing to wait until Janruary which isnt common at all this late in the game in the international teaching sphere as schools mostly hire around November to January/February for the next school year like in China and elsewhere for the most part unless the schools are clusterfucks and have high turn over rates. So again I think I would have negotiating power if things stay this way.

By the looks of things, at least in the bigger cities Russia seems to be the actual underrated teaching destination not China.

Anyways looking at the avg costs of things via numbeo https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Saint-Petersburg?displayCurrency=USD, things look pretty good in SP and the avg salary for locals is around 1k usd which means if i were to hypothetically go now I'd likely have 3x the local salary in disposable income AFTER rent.
Of course the ruble fluctuates a decent amount and who knows what things will be like in a couple years if I go after a 2 year stint in the middle kingdom.

What I'd be more curious about is how the work enviornments are in some of these schools but its hard to get solid info on this via places like https://www.reddit.com/r/Internationalteachers/ since most teachers are scared of the idea of ever working there which is why the salaries are that high in the first place.

I also ran some numbers with chatgpt and asked how much I would likely save based on the ranges for st petersburg living a Us equivalent middle to upper middle class lifestyle and I could always trim some expenses to save more If i wanted to:

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Agreed. But it seems a lot of blackpillers gets caught up on not “betabuxxing” even though they don’t got the looks to mog into the results they want in EE. Lolz
Personally i wouldnt mind betabuxxing lite per say as long as that is only part of the equation, of course I need to accumulate wealth in the first place. If i do make this move if its still viable, im okay with dating 7s in the mean time.
 
@Yuezhi kudos for sharing the research. $3800 a month after tax, with free accommodation, is a really amazing deal for Moscow. crossing my fingers you're able to get if after your China adventure.

BTW I got curious about this "British International School", so I looked it up, and fucking caged at the administrator's name
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It's true. Mogging in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine is way easier than in Baltics. Baltics have wealthier, taller and more attractive men with more liberal women. But in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus women put higher value on your wealth.
The Baltics compared to Moscow are piss poor. There are lots of wealthy guys in Moscow
 
@Stellar_Travels Hey man, good to see you again here. You had plans to go to Moscow a while back. Are you there now? And if so, how is it?

My friends who visited there last summer and some friends who is spending the summer there now told me the same thing. That Moscow is filled with wealthy guys and that competition is really stiff for top-tier Russian girls.
 
@Stellar_Travels Hey man, good to see you again here. You had plans to go to Moscow a while back. Are you there now? And if so, how is it?

My friends who visited there last summer and some friends who is spending the summer there now told me the same thing. That Moscow is filled with wealthy guys and that competition is really stiff for top-tier Russian girls.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to travel to Moscow yet, I went to China instead multiple times
But I really want to go to Moscow, hopefully I can go there later this summer....even just for a week
 
Baltics are richer than Moscovites. Check stats on numbeo:
Tallinn, Estonia versus Moscow, Russia:
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livi...ia&country2=Russia&city1=Tallinn&city2=Moscow
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Russia has a large wealth inequality and also a population that is magnitudes larger than the Baltic states so I wouldn’t trust what numbeo has to say. They dynamics is gonna be very different boots on the ground. Fact of the matter is that Moscow has lots of rich mfs and those are some of the guys you are competing against when going after top tier Russian women. Top tier Russian women aren’t gonna be impressed by the fact that you can afford a middle class living in Moscow.
 
Russia has a large wealth inequality and also a population that is magnitudes larger than the Baltic states so I wouldn’t trust what numbeo has to say. They dynamics is gonna be very different boots on the ground. Fact of the matter is that Moscow has lots of rich mfs and those are some of the guys you are competing against when going after top tier Russian women. Top tier Russian women aren’t gonna be impressed by the fact that you can afford a middle class living in Moscow.
this. if you want some proof, look at the Gini coefficient of wealth inequality. Russia is just a smidge below Brazil and South Africa. and importantly it's not just inequality between the cities (i.e. Moscow/SP vs the rest of the country) but also major inequality within the cities.
 
this. if you want some proof, look at the Gini coefficient of wealth inequality. Russia is just a smidge below Brazil and South Africa. and importantly it's not just inequality between the cities (i.e. Moscow/SP vs the rest of the country) but also major inequality within the cities.
The turbochads can't fuck all the women anyway, so in Russia hotties still settle for average good guy.
 
this. if you want some proof, look at the Gini coefficient of wealth inequality. Russia is just a smidge below Brazil and South Africa. and importantly it's not just inequality between the cities (i.e. Moscow/SP vs the rest of the country) but also major inequality within the cities.
Gini thing is worse in USA:

In Russia it's 35.1%, similar to EE.
In USA it is 41.3%!
 
Gini thing is worse in USA:

In Russia it's 35.1%, similar to EE.
In USA it is 41.3%!
yep, there are 2 indexes, one for wealth and one for income:
I was looking at the one for wealth
 
Russia has a large wealth inequality and also a population that is magnitudes larger than the Baltic states so I wouldn’t trust what numbeo has to say. They dynamics is gonna be very different boots on the ground. Fact of the matter is that Moscow has lots of rich mfs and those are some of the guys you are competing against when going after top tier Russian women. Top tier Russian women aren’t gonna be impressed by the fact that you can afford a middle class living in Moscow.
Well numerically speaking, I'd think that at least with 7 to 8 range girls, a good proportion of them aren't all going for rich guys as there still are only so many of them, also factoring in how the avg Russian girl looks in a place like Moscow. I'd think that as an above avg to good looking white guy, if I were to speak fluent Russian it wouldn't be too difficult with that amount of disposable income if I lower my standards slightly.

Anyways I think moving to St Petersburg would be better where there are less millionaires and which has a higher proportion of blondes. I think this plan makes more sense if I can get a job at a Tier 1 school as I will still make good money based on that chart and have less competition. Only thing is there are less schools there. Also Chatgpt estimates up to 10% of the population has light blonde hair naturally which isn't that bad although not sure how accurate that stat is. Again I can go always go for a slightly darker blonde if necessary.

Alternatively I can look in the cities like Arkhangelsk and Murmansk that have higher amounts of this type that would now be closer. Theyre probably even better for finding a wife that isn't as demanding in terms of money if I still can't find what I'm looking for in Petersburg.
 
Also if I do decide to settle in Russia longer term I could potentially move up into a schools admin or try to start some sort of education related business and make more money
 
1. Speak Russian. That's way more important than anything else. Same as going to China speaking mandarin
 
Well numerically speaking, I'd think that at least with 7 to 8 range girls, a good proportion of them aren't all going for rich guys as there still are only so many of them, also factoring in how the avg Russian girl looks in a place like Moscow. I'd think that as an above avg to good looking white guy, if I were to speak fluent Russian it wouldn't be too difficult with that amount of disposable income if I lower my standards slightly.

Anyways I think moving to St Petersburg would be better where there are less millionaires and which has a higher proportion of blondes. I think this plan makes more sense if I can get a job at a Tier 1 school as I will still make good money based on that chart and have less competition. Only thing is there are less schools there. Also Chatgpt estimates up to 10% of the population has light blonde hair naturally which isn't that bad although not sure how accurate that stat is. Again I can go always go for a slightly darker blonde if necessary.

Alternatively I can look in the cities like Arkhangelsk and Murmansk that have higher amounts of this type that would now be closer. Theyre probably even better for finding a wife that isn't as demanding in terms of money if I still can't find what I'm looking for in Petersburg.
St. Petersburg is a nicer city overall. Better architecture and more intellectuals.
 
1. Speak Russian. That's way more important than anything else. Same as going to China speaking mandarin
Agreed, Im currently learning Mandarin as of now.

I will consider trying to pick up Russian later on as it's difficult to give equal attention to learning 2 languages at the same time that are relatively more difficult to learn for an English speaker.

Also gonna apply to schools in Russia anyways when I get my qualifications finished just in case but I expect they'll be more likely to hire me after the 2 years of experience in China and so focusing on Mandarin for now makes more sense.
 
Agreed, Im currently learning Mandarin as of now.

I will consider trying to pick up Russian later on as it's difficult to give equal attention to learning 2 languages at the same time that are relatively more difficult to learn for an English speaker.

Also gonna apply to schools in Russia anyways when I get my qualifications finished just in case but I expect they'll be more likely to hire me after the 2 years of experience in China and so focusing on Mandarin for now makes more sense.
I would actually focus on culture you like and learn one not both
 
I would actually focus on culture you like and learn one not both

Good point, when it comes down to it I think I'd prefer Russia so I'll focus more on learning Russian. I already know a little Mandarin so while I'll still devote some time to it, it won't be as much of a focus.

Also have been told I look like a less good looking Ian Somerhalder with brown eyes and more weight on which again I plan on loosing. So this is why i say im chadlite at best. At the same time, others have told me I look Georgian even though im not and am of euro descent but others tell me I look Italian. So don't know how that matchup will be perceived in Russia. I really should be taking a trip there this year but will have to do it after I'm finished with my qualifications so it'll be earlier next year.

I may try to just take what I can get in Russia and skip China altogether. Can always go to Petersburg after an initial 2 year contract in Moscow.
Good news is that schools look like they're desperate enough to hire late applicants and China has enough schools as well where I can always turn down an earlier acceptance and probably get another job there if needed.
Just need to find a way to deal with my skin condition so the winters aren't too harsh on me.

I'd also rather go to Russia sooner as I likely won't need to rely on money as much if I'm younger and again can look in the provinces.
 
Good point, when it comes down to it I think I'd prefer Russia so I'll focus more on learning Russian. I already know a little Mandarin so while I'll still devote some time to it, it won't be as much of a focus.

Also have been told I look like a less good looking Ian Somerhalder with brown eyes and more weight on which again I plan on loosing. So this is why i say im chadlite at best. At the same time, others have told me I look Georgian even though im not and am of euro descent but others tell me I look Italian. So don't know how that matchup will be perceived in Russia. I really should be taking a trip there this year but will have to do it after I'm finished with my qualifications so it'll be earlier next year.

I may try to just take what I can get in Russia and skip China altogether. Can always go to Petersburg after an initial 2 year contract in Moscow.
Good news is that schools look like they're desperate enough to hire late applicants and China has enough schools as well where I can always turn down an earlier acceptance and probably get another job there if needed.
Just need to find a way to deal with my skin condition so the winters aren't too harsh on me.

I'd also rather go to Russia sooner as I likely won't need to rely on money as much if I'm younger and again can look in the provinces.
Sounds good. You can be only at one place at a time. Pick one and stick to one you prefer, and actually go there, so you can see how you like it there and move. Best of luck
 
yeah I think you’re right that St Petersburg has a lot less rich dudes than Moscow so it might be easier there. Also if you’re decent looking Moscow prob won’t be that hard either with that kind of income if you don’t mind compromising on blondeness a little
 
yeah I think you’re right that St Petersburg has a lot less rich dudes than Moscow so it might be easier there. Also if you’re decent looking Moscow prob won’t be that hard either with that kind of income if you don’t mind compromising on blondeness a little
What's with the blodne fixation. Darker hair is more attractive and darker phenos have higher survivability anyway. Blonde phenos get sunburnt, they have less vitality, thus suboptimal genes.
 
What's with the blodne fixation. Darker hair is more attractive and darker phenos have higher survivability anyway. Blonde phenos get sunburnt, they have less vitality, thus suboptimal genes.
there is no objectively "more attractive" phenotype and blonde people don't have less vitality.

the darker the people the more blonde fixated they are usually.

i'm blonde and not fixated on blonde women. some of them even seem a bit like sisters to me when i look at their skin, it's strange. for me it's mostly asians or latinas.

it's probably all related to having more distinct genes which results in a stronger immune system for the children.
 
there is no objectively "more attractive" phenotype and blonde people don't have less vitality.
Blondes get sunburnt, higher risk of skin cancer, more reactive to inflammation and infection, less robust. Pale skin is extremely weak. Med pheno is best overall.
it's probably all related to having more distinct genes which results in a stronger immune system for the children.
Probably true yes
 
The Moscow resident in touch. Never in your life think of moving to Russia if you've got the idea of getting the perfect cat wife, but under the guise of a 10/10 blonde with blue eyes and a great figure.

Russia is the ONLY country on the whole planet where women get all the advantages of both patriarchy and feminism. In our country, you have to pay on dates and cover any bill in full if you're a guy. In Russia, the divorce statistics exceed 130 percent, and you will be obliged to divide all your property and jointly acquired assets in half, even if the woman has not invested in anything. Be sure that if a girl is higher than 6/10, there will be a queue of dozens or even hundreds of guys / men, especially in such developed cities as Moscow or St. Petersburg.
If you think I'm exaggerating, we have formed a men's movement (мужское движение), tons of incel channels on YouTube, a huge number of MGTOW guys and tons of immigrants who are slowly eyeing Asia.
We have already formed a core of men who are actively migrating to the Philippines in desperate search of better wives.

Our girls don't prefer macho guys, but rich macho guys. Especially if you are a foreigner. The whole twitch is full of simp rolling streamer girls who are trying to sell their photos on onlyfans or boosty. A submissive and intelligent girl)) Oh, brother. You won't find in a century this kind of lady in Russia.

Your ideal possible option is to do pure geomaxxing as a foreigner. To play bed games is to promise different mountains and calmly disperse. Don't even count on more.

And look, i don't make this up or trying to perceive you some wrong ideas (Stay away from my homeland). No, i am speaking bald facts and experience from the MOST of the guys here.

You may get a raise as a foreigner, but only in private schools. I have not dealt with them and I do not know how they are recruited there, but in ordinary cases the average salary is 80-120 thousand rubles in simple ordinary schools with all the extra hours and cool guidance. It's not even close to 3 thousand dollars.

I'd be happy to hold my fists for you, but I don't want to lead you to a deadly slaughter.

Russia is an ideal place for foreigners and our famous Russian Natashkas who are trying to get money from you so that you can take them to Europe. If you sit on your ears skillfully and look decent, then you'll get one night. Just forget about the other thing please....
 
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The Moscow resident in touch. Never in your life think of moving to Russia if you've got the idea of getting the perfect cat wife, but under the guise of a 10/10 blonde with blue eyes and a great figure.

Russia is the ONLY country on the whole planet where women get all the advantages of both patriarchy and feminism. In our country, you have to pay on dates and cover any bill in full if you're a guy. In Russia, the divorce statistics exceed 130 percent, and you will be obliged to divide all your property and jointly acquired assets in half, even if the woman has not invested in anything. Be sure that if a girl is higher than 6/10, there will be a queue of dozens or even hundreds of guys / men, especially in such developed cities as Moscow or St. Petersburg.
If you think I'm exaggerating, we have formed a men's movement (мужское движение), tons of incel channels on YouTube, a huge number of MGTOW guys and tons of immigrants who are slowly eyeing Asia.
We have already formed a core of men who are actively migrating to the Philippines in desperate search of better wives.

Our girls don't prefer macho guys, but rich macho guys. Especially if you are a foreigner. The whole twitch is full of simp rolling streamer girls who are trying to sell their photos on onlyfans or boosty. A submissive and intelligent girl)) Oh, brother. You won't find in a century this kind of lady in Russia.

Your ideal possible option is to do pure geomaxxing as a foreigner. To play bed games is to promise different mountains and calmly disperse. Don't even count on more.

And look, i don't make this up or trying to perceive you some wrong ideas (Stay away from my homeland). No, i am speaking bald facts and experience from the MOST of the guys here.

You may get a raise as a foreigner, but only in private schools. I have not dealt with them and I do not know how they are recruited there, but in ordinary cases the average salary is 80-120 thousand rubles in simple ordinary schools with all the extra hours and cool guidance. It's not even close to 3 thousand dollars.

I'd be happy to hold my fists for you, but I don't want to lead you to a deadly slaughter.

Russia is an ideal place for foreigners and our famous Russian Natashkas who are trying to get money from you so that you can take them to Europe. If you sit on your ears skillfully and look decent, then you'll get one night. Just forget about the other thing please....
Oof...even with all the men slaughtered in early onset of WW3, that is still the case? Surprising honestly. I don't want to believe, but what I have never been to Russia. EE seems fine when it comes to women.
 
Blondes get sunburnt, higher risk of skin cancer, more reactive to inflammation and infection, less robust. Pale skin is extremely weak. Med pheno is best overall.

Probably true yes
Well in my case it's just the type I'm most attracted to being med myself. I suppose it stems from wanting someone similiar phenotypically thats white but still different enough and light blondes are rarer. Its one of same reasons I guess as to why some blonde women prefer Italian and Spanish guys in countries like Poland at least until recently.

As long as she takes care of her skin by not drinking and wearing sunscreen I imagine this type of girl will age well. The previous generation in the FSU drank a lot more and had worse nutrition which is why they probably started aging so bad after their mid 30s.
 
The Moscow resident in touch. Never in your life think of moving to Russia if you've got the idea of getting the perfect cat wife, but under the guise of a 10/10 blonde with blue eyes and a great figure.

Russia is the ONLY country on the whole planet where women get all the advantages of both patriarchy and feminism. In our country, you have to pay on dates and cover any bill in full if you're a guy. In Russia, the divorce statistics exceed 130 percent, and you will be obliged to divide all your property and jointly acquired assets in half, even if the woman has not invested in anything. Be sure that if a girl is higher than 6/10, there will be a queue of dozens or even hundreds of guys / men, especially in such developed cities as Moscow or St. Petersburg.
If you think I'm exaggerating, we have formed a men's movement (мужское движение), tons of incel channels on YouTube, a huge number of MGTOW guys and tons of immigrants who are slowly eyeing Asia.
We have already formed a core of men who are actively migrating to the Philippines in desperate search of better wives.

Our girls don't prefer macho guys, but rich macho guys. Especially if you are a foreigner. The whole twitch is full of simp rolling streamer girls who are trying to sell their photos on onlyfans or boosty. A submissive and intelligent girl)) Oh, brother. You won't find in a century this kind of lady in Russia.

Your ideal possible option is to do pure geomaxxing as a foreigner. To play bed games is to promise different mountains and calmly disperse. Don't even count on more.

And look, i don't make this up or trying to perceive you some wrong ideas (Stay away from my homeland). No, i am speaking bald facts and experience from the MOST of the guys here.

You may get a raise as a foreigner, but only in private schools. I have not dealt with them and I do not know how they are recruited there, but in ordinary cases the average salary is 80-120 thousand rubles in simple ordinary schools with all the extra hours and cool guidance. It's not even close to 3 thousand dollars.

I'd be happy to hold my fists for you, but I don't want to lead you to a deadly slaughter.

Russia is an ideal place for foreigners and our famous Russian Natashkas who are trying to get money from you so that you can take them to Europe. If you sit on your ears skillfully and look decent, then you'll get one night. Just forget about the other thing please....
International schools are basically elite private schools where the entire curriculum is taught in English. I have seen those salary ranges on other sites and based on from some posts on reddit that salary range seems to be legit at least for Moscow again with rent covered by the school and other benefits.

I have no illusions about getting a 10/10 even if I speak fluent Russian, am chadlite and if I got wealthy. What I do want is an 8/10 version of that girl or worst case 7/10.

I don't mind putting in the work to speak fluent Russian. I also don't mind being a bit macho as long as it's not every single moment and i dont mind paying for most or all of the dates. As long as the girl does not expect expensive dinners and gifts all the time(some of the time here and there is fine) that's okay with me. Now if I get wealthy from something like crypto investments or get weathier long term from starting a business then I might mind less.

Also i thought divorces are initiated mostly by men there no?

From what I understand divorce laws only count assets gained after marriage and in Russia so I could just make sure to move assets and money out of the country that I gain into foreign bank accounts and brokerages or crypto. I would also delay marriage just in case until I have kids with a girl so all this would discourage her from trying to divorce rape me and she would be a live in girlfriend till then.

Anyways is it really that difficult to find this type of girl who is feminine and intelligent even in the smaller cities around Petersburg and in the north west? I kind of also find it hard to believe I couldn't find a girl that matches this even in Petersburg unless things are really that bad.
 
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i'm blonde and not fixated on blonde women. some of them even seem a bit like sisters to me when i look at their skin, it's strange. for me it's mostly asians or latinas.


it's probably all related to having more distinct genes which results in a stronger immune system for the children.
same. as a pale light-eyed guy, I find myself most attracted to women with a Mediterranean look. there has to be something to this theory.
 
no. Russia has one of the highest divorce rates in the world, and most of them are initiated by women.
Yeah seems that way unfortunately, I tried to find stats on how much repeat divorces boost that number but theres no info on that. Though I'd also think it's that high in part due to domestic violence outside of the biggest cities even if its slowly started to improve. Looksmatching would reduce the risk of this happening to me I'd hope.

Again not to boast but I probably can be in the 7-8 range which I base off my face and that I am muscular. The only thing holding me back as of now is my bodyfat which also effects my face but I still get checked out by women in the 6 to 7 range in the US although gaming them is still tough cause its the west.

When I burn the fat off I don't think I would need to try too hard with that income if I want to get a girl within 1 smv point but maybe things are that difficult now.
 
it probably won’t be that difficult then if you can max out as a male 8 looking for at most an 8 there. I know some white dudes that have gone there and speak Russian and have lived in both cities and some of them are good looking. Yeah they still need money but def not anywhere near $10k a month in miscow for 7 or 8 like some guys were saying on the other thread here lol.

Also contrary to what some people think at least if my buddies are to be believed not all girls are gold diggers. Yeah they expect you to pay fir dates but that’s normal there
 
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For the top end girls you might need that kind of money it but for what you’re aiming for should be fine in spb

With divorce wouldn’t know as none of the guys I know got married there or to Russians yet
Plan on checking the place out myself eventually once the conflicts over
 
You'll need to be able to spend 10K if you are average tier in terms of looks (which is the vast majority of guys here) gunning for top-tier women. But I think this applies everywhere in the world though.

A 7 or 8 is like a stacey-lite and stacey level girl respectively. Maybe the 7 isn't top tier but an 8 certainly is. The game is just different for these level girls. The 8s I have known about here in CE got flown out on a private jet to a billionaires yatch to go around the Mediterranean and do nasty things. lolz
 
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You'll need to be able to spend 10K if you are average tier in terms of looks (which is the vast majority of guys here) gunning for top-tier women. But I think this applies everywhere in the world though.
10k in what? A week, a month, a year?

Also, I think that's quite absurd.

10k$ a month is unfanthonable amount of money.

It means you make like 60k$ a month comfortably, which is like 0.001%.

Normal people doing normal things shouldn't need to spend that much.

You may need to have a good apartment that costs 2k-3k$ rent depending on city and a car.

You may need to spend on travels, airline tickets and so on.

Other than that, seems silly
 
Why the hell should a top-tier woman give your normie tier looking ass a shot then? Because it would be nice? Cause you got good personality? (let’s be honest if you are on this forum, you do not have a crazy level of charismatic personality lolz)

If you are a normie tier looking dude, it would be ludicrous for you to think that you can do normal people things with a top tier woman considering without the money, she is way out of your league. You can do normal people things IF you are a top-tier looking guy yourself.

Being able to spend up to 10K USD/month is not an absurd amount of money to date top tier white women. If this is an absurd amount of money, simply put these women are clearly out of your league. Go to SEA, go get you your 5 or 6, and stay in your lane.
 
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While I am not looking to get married just yet, I am curious about where the best place in Europe would be to get this when I do consider settling down eventually.
While I am still likely going to China to teach in the near future, in all honestly I would like to find a way to geomax to northeastern Europe as I specifically prefer very light to platinum blonde haired girls and would like to live in a place where I can more easily assimilate relatively in, as if we're being honest you can never really do so in East Asia outside of maybe Hong Kong or Singapore.

My kryptonite is this phenotype specifically which I'd call the angel or elf type like so:

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From my research Russia and the Baltics are the best places for this since Scandinavia is off the table for obvious reasons. Via Chatgpt and Grok, specifically north eastern Russian and Moscow seem to be the best areas to look for that exact type of girl in that country which makes sense via the proximity to Scandinavia, with the locals being historically mixed with Finnic and Baltic tribes as well as Norse settlers during the Kievan Rus era.

Russia:

Regarding income, there are some international teaching jobs in Moscow and St Petersburg and I may be able to get a position in those places with 0 to little prior experience just because some schools are very desperate given the geopolitical tensions and therefore lack of western teacher applicants. However, there are a lot of caveats with going there at least until the war ends as an American citizen.
One in particular would be the difficulty in transferring money out of the country. However I do have dual citizenship with another western country so I could apply for a visa that way to reduce the risk of living there.

I'm considering doing this after getting a couple years of experience in China just to ensure that I like teaching and am fully committed by then, plus maybe the conflict will be over by then.

I've seen salaries at the 2nd tier schools that seem to average close to 3k post tax usd equivalent in Moscow and Petersburg and schools usually cover rent and utilities but I'm not sure if that would be enough to save a decent amount with how expensive Moscow can be. I'm thinking St Petersburg could be better as there would be more girls with the phenotype that I like but I remember reading that there were more feminist and hipster types there, although still a minority. Maybe it's gotten worse since the 2010s in that regard.
I also know 0 Russian so would have to work on learning that along with Chinese which is not that conducive. I might be able to also luck out and get a position at the better schools and get more money but that often comes with an increased workload.

Another thing with Russian girls from what I understand is that a some are of the more gold diggerish type in the bigger cities and prefer a macho guy who needs to lead them 100% of the time. I have read many reports of how they can be quite manipulative and cold and you have to have very strong frame with them which is not something I'd like to deal with as I want a girl who is submissive and intelligent and is not an ice queen trying to play crazy mind games and test me most of the time(most women do test you occasionally but this is another level). Can i find girls like this in these cities?

I could also try looking in places like Tver, Pskov, Veliky Novgorod, Petrozavodsk and Murmansk while teaching in either of the biggest cities when I have time off during the summer. Problem is these places have 200-400k people so they are a bit on the smaller side and probably have less attractive women since more of them would have moved to the bigger cities.

Baltics and Belarus:

I did briefly pass through the Baltics when I was younger and do remember seeing some girls that looked like this in Latvia and Estonia and to a lesser extent Lithuania and much lesser so, Poland. Problem is those countries are supposedly more westernized but they'd be easier to live in outside of salary concerns of which subject teaching jobs pay poorly outside of the top schools for the most part which i may be able to get jobs at with some more experience. So would finding a wife material girl be more difficult in these places?

I'd try Belarus as well but not sure about teaching jobs there. Llms have also told me there are less platinum blondes there, anyone been there to confirm?

Me:

My stats by the time I would go if i delay this for a few years would likely be early 30s, 5'11, HTN+ to Chadlite since by then I'll be in shape. Im also Mediterranean looking. While I act NT for the most part, I may still slip up here and there but the cultural barrier would probably smooth that over if its still otherwise a slight issue.
i dated a complete blond once, in my early 20's. She was 19. The only thing cool was she didn't have to shave she was so blond, that the hair wasn't noticeable and her pussy was pink.
 
Being able to spend up to 10K USD/month is not an absurd amount of money to date top tier white women. If this is an absurd amount of money, simply put these women are clearly out of your league. Go to SEA, go get you your 5 or 6, and stay in your lane.
It's ungodly amount of money to just be "spending on a woman". Any sane many who has made it that far probabably psends like 10% of his monthly income MAX on woman, which means 10k would be like 100k$ a month, which like 1.2m$ a year which is unreal and almost nobody is making that money. That's like 0.01%, not especially in EE or Russia. Where would you even spend it.

I have dated attractive white women before, so they are in my league.
 

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