Torn between three countries. I'm 28 and desperate.

[geneblackman]

Have you considered South America? Southern Brazilians and Argentines of Germanic descent tend to age better than those in Germany probably because they aren't fully German

 

[Messier 4]

Have you considered South America? Southern Brazilians and Argentines of Germanic descent tend to age better than those in Germany probably because they aren't fully German

Yes I did, but I want to keep some of my current quality of life. For what I saw on google maps, some big russian cities like Yekaterinburg and Nizhny Novgorod look mostly 2nd world and not 3rd world like Brazil.

Besides, if I'll go for a white girl, my chances are better in Russia as the competition there is lesser(no offense to russian guys) and the women are prettier, probably the prettiest in the world for the 16-25 age range.

 

[Messier 4]

The paradox is the latter girl gets approached MORE by thirsty men thinking she's more realistic target, since she's not as hot. This is the exact reason I will always approach the hottest woman in the room.

Maybe, but the type of men that have the courage to ask out a girl with a hot body has at least the money if not the looks.

 

[Messier 4]

Late 20s is objectively not that old. I'd reccomend you adjust to the idea of dating a girl in her 20s as I think it will be more difficult to date a girl in her teens even in China as like other guys like @ExcuseMe have already said, that 18-19 yos will have more competition.

Personally i really don't think any guy should be planning on living long term in any of the anglosphere countries if they have the means not to. I think increasingly that countries like the US offer less and less benefits quality of life wise to the avg white guy over sone of these other places. At this point it's arguably only salary and even that's slowly diminishing for new grads or guys with no work experience as it's getting increasingly more difficult to get an entry level white collar job or other type of high paying job and climb the corporate ladder.

There is also a decent chance that if you marry and bring a girl over from those countries that she will become westernized and eventually divorce rape you. Of course that can be tough if you have family that you think you will need to take care of. I don't really have a good solution for this and it's a tough spot to be in. Additionally it's easier said than done without a viable career that would let you do this.

The solution I found with my circumstances is intl subject teaching but you need to have a degree and license for that and even better a masters degree which I'm in the process of getting.

If you're interested in doing this you could get an education masters after your initial degree when coming back to the US and I believe there are some online programs but they will still require an in person student teaching component. However I'm not sure if a foreign bachelor's degrees credits would be accepted as a requirement for getting licensed in certain subjects although there may be some states that are more lenient where you could initially get licensed. Stem subjects are in the most demand so getting a degree in one of those subjects would be ideal if you want to pursue that. I'm also not sure how some schools would perceive a bachelor's degree from Russia or China if you are applying to teach in those countries even with the masters so you might want to double check that.

Anyways if its viable for you, you will get time off in the summers and have other holidays with many schools that would allow you take longer trips back home to see your family. Of course this would be a big time investment and you should make sure you like the idea of teaching at least a little bit. This path might also let you work in Russia but it'll depend on how desperate schools are by then as usually outside of China and a few other places, many schools will want you to have 2 yoe teaching which is sometimes a provincial requirement.

Otherwise try to find some other career path that will let you move around the globe a bit although they are increasingly hard to find and get outside of starting a business.

I could teach english or school subjects but only part-time because college would take most of my day. My god how do I regret not having a degree already...
And on top of that, I don't think I'll handle being on an environment full of 18 yo's and try to mingle after I reveal my real age.

 

[Lebensraum]

Maybe, but the type of men that have the courage to ask out a girl with a hot body has at least the money if not the looks.

That is true.
I have (some) money and slightly above normie looks and I unabashedly always approach the hottest ones and also Stacylites / upper Becky's.
Sometimes (though rarely) it works out, so I keep grinding.

 

[Orientalist]

Btw, there's a fair bit of Russian/slavic models out there in China if you know where to find them. Any city; not just Shanghai. Though you better hope your competition isn't other models, lol

 

[Lebensraum]

Btw, there's a fair bit of Russian/slavic models out there in China if you know where to find them. Any city; not just Shanghai. Though you better hope your competition isn't other models, lol

Russian women don't get hot for "models", they get hot for masculine rich, powerful men. Male models are antithesis of all of that.

 

[Messier 4]

Btw, there's a fair bit of Russian/slavic models out there in China if you know where to find them. Any city; not just Shanghai. Though you better hope your competition isn't other models, lol

In an ideal world I could test out life in China and still be able to date white women, but the reality is that white girls in asia, unless college students, are too weird for me, which is ironic coming from someone like myself.

Besides, the amount of them there is just too small. The models that you mentioned are probably very arrogant and I want humble women.

 

[Orientalist]

Russian women don't get hot for "models", they get hot for masculine rich, powerful men. Male models are antithesis of all of that.

Wise words from saint predeterminism:

Typical wfam relationship

Poverty tier white girl from war torn country like Russia with rich east asian cuck simp where he's using him as a walking wallet punching bag

 

[Yuezhi]

I could teach english or school subjects but only part-time because college would take most of my day. My god how do I regret not having a degree already...
And on top of that, I don't think I'll handle being on an environment full of 18 yo's and try to mingle after I reveal my real age.

Tefl is probably only an option after you get the degree as you need that for most places unless you dont mind working in Vietnam like @Orientalist said or somewhere like Cambodia but the long term prospects of that aren't great. Schools also might want you to have a degree from anglo countries.

Anyways id say your better off getting the degree first. Since you want to go abroad as soon as possible you should try to get a degree in one of these countries. I also think China would be better as the country has a better reputation in the west these days so the degree might go further. Also alternatively you could take a few semesters abroad as I think some colleges allow for that in order to get an American degree.

After you finish it you may have a different perspective on teaching but it's not for everyone, maybe try substituting at a good school when you're older to see how you feel.

You cant do anything about the the past but you can make a change now.

 

[myeyes]

This doesn't seem realistic. If you are a virgin and going for 18 yo girls, you are competing with every living male on this earth. You can't just choose most demanded product in the market with no experience. It would be nightmare permadeath difficulty.

Also, don't believe outliers in Chinese propoganda examples. Also, they all use faceapp.

After reading most the thread I think this is the most accurate response and I double down on my answer that you should go to SEA first.

Also what are your stats? If you’re tall and attractive then I think you’ll be good but otherwise I rate your chances at getting a pretty 18 year old virgin in China (let alone Russia) as really really low. Dating is a lot more competitive than you think

Not trying to be harsh just saying the truth

 

[practicaleagle]

Bro you sound autistic as fuck, this goes without saying but people can usually single out autists no matter which country you go to, and if you're 30 and not tall or good looking it's definitely a mark against you. But really just stop moping and do whatever the fuck you want, you aren't getting any younger, though idk what you're expecting when you're posting 2010's 얼짱 korean idols lol, very few chinese girls look like that and even in korea that style looks kinda outdated.
There's alot of russian girls in chinese unis tho and some of the foreign student friends i knew dated them so you have a chance there at least.

 

[Messier 4]

After reading most the thread I think this is the most accurate response and I double down on my answer that you should go to SEA first.

Also what are your stats? If you’re tall and attractive then I think you’ll be good but otherwise I rate your chances at getting a pretty 18 year old virgin in China (let alone Russia) as really really low. Dating is a lot more competitive than you think

Not trying to be harsh just saying the truth

Honestly, I disagree. Women are women everywhere, but your location matters a lot in regards to your chances.

I've seen ''walking at X city'' videos and for what I gathered, the amount of attractive women is double of the attractive men.

 

[biggunsar]

This is the least issue I think.

Look, as a white dude you have options to have a child with a white woman of your ethnicity and thus contributing to diversity of human genome OR you can procreate with an asian and create mixed offspring.

Scenario A): You mate with person of your own ethnicity / race:
- You solidify ethnic diversity by maintaining unique physical characteristics and not letting them be diluted
- You avoid diluting the Asian race by having mixed spawn
- White race maintains its uniqueness over time
- You avoid diluting the asiatic race with white DNA, thus maintaining their uniqueness as well
- Cultural differences strengthened, human diversity strengthened
- Long term beneficial to interesting factor of humanity (it would be boring if everyone is the same 1000 years down the line)
- Your offspring will have clear ethnic and cultural belonging which means they can continue tradition of breeding within their own race, thus strengthening the cultural diversity. No confusion.

Scenario B): Literally the opposite
- By whites breeding asians and vice versa both cultures lose ethnic diversity. The woman you bred with could have had a 100% asian baby with an asian man, but now you create hapa offspring that doesn't fully belong in any culture.
- You've essentially contributed to destruction of cultural diversity.

but flip and white if she's light skin can produce a white kid if you are TRULY white like me. Who cannot tan. Just burns and then goes back to white

Im so white i am actually salmon colored pink.

 

[Messier 4]

Bro you sound autistic as fuck, this goes without saying but people can usually single out autists no matter which country you go to

I was the opposite of an austist before I graduated high school. I know I'm not ''normal'', but it's 100% a psychological rather than a neurodivergent issue.

and if you're 30 and not tall or good looking it's definitely a mark against you.

But really just stop moping and do whatever the fuck you want, you aren't getting any younger

So my situation is bad but I should just ignore it? I simply can't do it. I need to get everything that I missed all those years.
Not sure if you noticed, but I do believe that I shouldn't have to feel this way if society wasn't so ageist.

, though idk what you're expecting when you're posting 2010's 얼짱 korean idols lol, very few chinese girls look like that and even in korea that style looks kinda outdated.

Yeah I know. That's why I'm torn between a white stacy who will age badly or a high-tier becky asian girl who will age well.

There's alot of russian girls in chinese unis tho and some of the foreign student friends i knew dated them so you have a chance there at least.

And there's a lot of chinese students in russian unis. Either way, the pool of girls is just too small.