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For me, I’ll just socialize with no one. I belong in neither world..
Day 3 of China teachermaxxing job hunt
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I've done that a collective year or two in some far flung places in China. Hohhot and Deyang.
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In the end I got sent my own way to Wuhan. Hope I like it
Wuhan is an awesome city. Good place to learn Chinese. I've never been regrettably, but I know about it.
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Do you or anyone know about people posting listings on xiaohongshu? Idk if it’s largely a scam or not. Stuff like this:
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Never looked into it. Adding agents from 58 on WeChat and seeing their posts is more up to date than anything ime
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Same thing with j*bs I think
What makes you say that? Dialect is close to standard Mandarin or something?
I'm getting FOMO not being in 广州/成都/上海 but perhaps it's for my own sanity, and it'll let me transmute all energy into getting as good at Mandarin as possible for the next year
Because it's where the old crossroads. Anyone going north, South, East or West by train in the old days usually had to pass through Wuhan.
Shanghai is no good. Not very fun.
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Are you a 40 year old boomer who's stuck teaching in China who can't even speak Chinese or something? That's the only way I could see this not being sad as hell, I seriously doubt you could even pull from those chinese table clubs even if you went lol. If you've really lived in China for that long you should know that the entire country runs on Guanxi, having more friends and knowing more people will only help you, and if your chinese is even half decent there's lots of chinese dudes who are good bros (imo zoomer chinese girls tend to be kind hit on miss on that end). If you take care of them they will take care of you, or maybe those chinese dudes think you're a loser and don't really want to interact with you more than necessary.
Anyhow I had more more fun and crazy experiences having the right guy friends compared to only trying to find girls to fuck, food for thought.
I only really enjoy hanging out with other expats. You are a foreigner. For you there's only face and friendships with others who do have guanxi.
Chinese dudes are just generally boring. I had a Uyghur friend in Urumqi but other than that I've never had any Chinese male friends. Nobody is just want to hang out with.
Anyways, I'm 37 years old. I have been living in USA with my Chinese wife and kid since 2021. I speak Chinese and have pulled from those stupid tables at those stupid clubs.
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I've had good experiences with Chinese acquaintances. Like Chinese business people I've known who have taken me to real KTVs after closing a deal with a friend. Or have gotten tours of factories in Wenzhou while pretending to be representing a big American company. I would never consider any of these people friends though.
My point was as a foreigner you don't need to have Chinese friends, or "guanxi", to get top quality women. If you do then you're just a loser.
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I'm sure back in 2015 when you had a full head of hair you might have been able to pull something, China changed alot in the past 5-6 years, CCJ was funny back then too but times have changed. If you don't even know what 抓手指 is your info is outdated.
Again, if they act boring around you it's because they know you are a fucking loser not even worth entertaining. Usually the issue with people who think like this is because their chinese is shit (Your HSK 4 makes you sound more retarded than literal chinese downy btw).
I also don't consider divorced 35 year old 剩女 "top quality women" like you do, but I guess your wife must have been desperate enough to shack up with the closest warm body who would actually give her marriage and not just string her along as another 阿三, def wouldn't catch me with that type lol.
Lol, you're the type of guy that can only fuck in China. Go ahead and pull a Hot Russian or British girl in the expat community where you live. Even without a full head of hair I could pull the type of chicks you could only jerk off too. You're a China newb that thinks he's the shit because he's learned more Chinese than 95% of the foreigners living there. Joining his Chinese friends in their beta activities is what he considers a piping good time.
What fun things have you done with Chinese dudes besides climb mountains, pick strawberries, watch grass, drink and play pool?
You're the type of foreigner to see in some far flung district that turns his nose up in the air when another foreigner says hi to him.
Are you “Lefty Rankin” from Looksmax?
Yes, lol.
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Any tips for new English teachers in China who barely understand the language?
Should I just stick to the Tier 1’s?
Tier 1 Cities? Not if you want the best environment for learning Chinese.
True, but what if you’re unable or uninterested enough to learn it?
Then stay in the tier 1 or tier 2 cities. Some tier 2 cities like Qingdao are cool. Lots of fun to be had and a sizeable expat population. Qingdao was a very weed friendly city when I lived there. You could pass joints back in forth inside certain clubs right in front of the police stationed there. Lots of places to get quality hashish near the old train station. Decent brothels around that area too.
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Wtf?
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Another mogger aspect about university teaching: if you're lucky/have seniority or whatever, you might only work a few days a week. ≤4 is def the norm AFAIK. Could even be just 2 days if you're on the low end of hours and/or and can choose your schedule.
And in a more central city like Wuhan, you can basically take a bullet train to almost any city friday afternoon and be there by evening. ~4 hours for Shanghai or Guangzhou (or Hong Kong at that point) for instance. So it would mog harder having Friday+Monday off or whatever. Since >$200 for a round trip + hotels depending on the city isn't chump change; might as well try and make the most of it. Still tho, now that I think about it I'll probably do this on a somewhat regular basis, even if it's just a random nearby city.
When recruiters tried to groom me into going to whack cities because it's like an hour away via high-speed rail to some other major city I thought they were tweaking, but I guess they have a point. I'm sure weekend tourism is definitely a thing throughout the country. I heard @Rance describe the nightlife in Tokyo as something similar; a city of people who aren't necessarily locals and where nobody knows each other
Plus it's cool that you can splurge on a hotel somewhere with ideal nightlife logistics if your workplace back in the hometown cucks you due to not being very centrally located; it would feel autistic doing that in a city where you already live
And in a more central city like Wuhan, you can basically take a bullet train to almost any city friday afternoon and be there by evening. ~4 hours for Shanghai or Guangzhou (or Hong Kong at that point) for instance. So it would mog harder having Friday+Monday off or whatever. Since >$200 for a round trip + hotels depending on the city isn't chump change; might as well try and make the most of it. Still tho, now that I think about it I'll probably do this on a somewhat regular basis, even if it's just a random nearby city.
When recruiters tried to groom me into going to whack cities because it's like an hour away via high-speed rail to some other major city I thought they were tweaking, but I guess they have a point. I'm sure weekend tourism is definitely a thing throughout the country. I heard @Rance describe the nightlife in Tokyo as something similar; a city of people who aren't necessarily locals and where nobody knows each other
Plus it's cool that you can splurge on a hotel somewhere with ideal nightlife logistics if your workplace back in the hometown cucks you due to not being very centrally located; it would feel autistic doing that in a city where you already live
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The finish line has almost been crossed since I have all my docs now and I don't have to even arrive until September 5th apparently. Everyone's on vacation until then or something? I'm not complaining lol.
Time for a 1 week trip to SEA or some shit as a warmup, or some other city in glorious China. Where do you think I should go @AlexBrown84
Time for a 1 week trip to SEA or some shit as a warmup, or some other city in glorious China. Where do you think I should go @AlexBrown84
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Head to bangkok to see the decadence and mobs of foreigners you won’t be missing when you settle in china
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So true. I'll go to the hostel and mingle with Hans and Sven and their white gfs at the rooftop bar
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Watching random ass vlogs/blogs about what university teaching is like (so as not have imposter syndrome because I literally have no idea what I'll be doing after landing). Watched a couple of this guy's vids and felt like I was gonna seethe because of the whack ass outfit but they're pretty down to earth ngl
It's kinda like the better version of training center environments in that - at least moreso than k12 - you can be more flexible with your syllabus, expect some of your students to basically just not give a fuck, grades are fake, etc. and I honestly I don't even mind. I do wish university teaching had any positive career trajectory tho. People with years of experience are making the same 11k/mo I'm about to be making. But of course, free time mogs if spent wisely enough
Anways a week before I kiss my motherland goodbye. Rather than any kind of exhilaration or whatever I usually enter a state of dissociation whenever I go from one stage of something in life to another. At airports and such, I usually like to listen to Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 or Brian Eno's Music for Airports, tuning into unreality of all multiplicity, and feeling as if the world is moving along while I remain completely still
It's kinda like the better version of training center environments in that - at least moreso than k12 - you can be more flexible with your syllabus, expect some of your students to basically just not give a fuck, grades are fake, etc. and I honestly I don't even mind. I do wish university teaching had any positive career trajectory tho. People with years of experience are making the same 11k/mo I'm about to be making. But of course, free time mogs if spent wisely enough
Anways a week before I kiss my motherland goodbye. Rather than any kind of exhilaration or whatever I usually enter a state of dissociation whenever I go from one stage of something in life to another. At airports and such, I usually like to listen to Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 or Brian Eno's Music for Airports, tuning into unreality of all multiplicity, and feeling as if the world is moving along while I remain completely still
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How is it nowadays? Haven’t been back in ages
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Considering I'm from the midwest, basically the stage on which much of my life has been set was vignetted by the endless expanse of cornfields and woodlands where native american spirits still linger. This is where you see the soul of America at its most unobstructed. At its core I think it's exactly the same as I knew it 20 years ago
Not to hijack your thread @Orientalist but im gonna also start applying to jobs for next august but won't have my credentials(license and education masters degree) until next spring but i dont think its a problem for bilingual or even low level intl schools or so ive been told by reddit and elsewhere. Ill follow some of the advice in this thread and play up my student teaching experience and bs that I did tutoring at some defunct company.
Particularly will look for a math or maybe a Compsci teaching High school job in Chengdu Chongqing Changsha or Qingdao but I'm open to other suggestions. Would prefer a place that has better looking pale chicks but that doesn't have dry cold winters that will fuck up my skin.
Although at this point I'm far more comfortable with math content vs compsci stuff which I really need to brush up on as it's been a few years since I wrote code for the most part lol
Speaking of, my mentor teacher introduced me to a site that has American AP and non AP math curriculum material that they use called Math medic if anyone else is interested in teaching math for a non British curriculum.
portal.mathmedic.com
A lot of the lessons seem easy to teach from my experience so far and it works well with the students doing individual work or group work in a student centered learning enviornment but tbf also relies on them doing hw and reading material outside of class. Worst case it can probably be used with additional resources if the students still struggle with the content
Particularly will look for a math or maybe a Compsci teaching High school job in Chengdu Chongqing Changsha or Qingdao but I'm open to other suggestions. Would prefer a place that has better looking pale chicks but that doesn't have dry cold winters that will fuck up my skin.
Although at this point I'm far more comfortable with math content vs compsci stuff which I really need to brush up on as it's been a few years since I wrote code for the most part lol
Speaking of, my mentor teacher introduced me to a site that has American AP and non AP math curriculum material that they use called Math medic if anyone else is interested in teaching math for a non British curriculum.
Math Medic Teacher Portal
Math Medic is a web application that helps teachers and students with math problems.
portal.mathmedic.com
A lot of the lessons seem easy to teach from my experience so far and it works well with the students doing individual work or group work in a student centered learning enviornment but tbf also relies on them doing hw and reading material outside of class. Worst case it can probably be used with additional resources if the students still struggle with the content
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if you want pale just go to a tier 1 city but their bodies will be like sticks no ass no chest
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Feel free to hijack. I’m having a very good time purely job-wise. Whether I’ll still teach English next year or if I find a computer science or biology high school job, or whether I’ll keep lazymaxxing at a university, who knows. But I’ll be trying my hardest to go to Chengdu/ChongqingNot to hijack your thread @Orientalist but im gonna also start applying to jobs for next august but won't have my credentials(license and education masters degree) until next spring but i dont think its a problem for bilingual or even low level intl schools or so ive been told by reddit and elsewhere. Ill follow some of the advice in this thread and play up my student teaching experience and bs that I did tutoring at some defunct company.
Particularly will look for a math or maybe a Compsci teaching High school job in Chengdu Chongqing Changsha or Qingdao but I'm open to other suggestions. Would prefer a place that has better looking pale chicks but that doesn't have dry cold winters that will fuck up my skin.
Although at this point I'm far more comfortable with math content vs compsci stuff which I really need to brush up on as it's been a few years since I wrote code for the most part lol
Speaking of, my mentor teacher introduced me to a site that has American AP and non AP math curriculum material that they use called Math medic if anyone else is interested in teaching math for a non British curriculum.
Math Medic Teacher Portal
Math Medic is a web application that helps teachers and students with math problems.
A lot of the lessons seem easy to teach from my experience so far and it works well with the students doing individual work or group work in a student centered learning enviornment but tbf also relies on them doing hw and reading material outside of class. Worst case it can probably be used with additional resources if the students still struggle with the content
From what I’ve seen, computer science is in demand “in theory” but it’s still rare to find listings, i.e. it keeps up with the low supply of teachers; schools basically don’t get their hopes up. In other words if you do find a listing, it might be easy to land. Math on the other hand basically pays just as good but is wayy more ubiquitous so I’d probably play into that especially if you want to be selective about cities.
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Why specifically those cities?
I've been to 3 out of the original 4 Tier 1s previously so I know what you mean but only really liked Shanghai out of them. Beijing is way too cold in the winter and I found the avg chick to be not that great looking, a stark difference to Shanghai and Shenzhen but it's good for other shit like tourism and stuff to do. Shenzhen is just shit for dating ime.
But in general I don't think any of them are good for dating and girls are likely to be more goldiggerish.
I would be open to Guangzhou tho which I suspect is better than the other 3.
Good to hear, uni teaching job hours are a big pro and a downside of being a new teacher at a high school will be the workload no doubt and im assuming ill have to take work home at first. Prob will only have free time on the weekends and holidays.
How's Wuhan so far?
I do see a lot more math openings on echinacities for sure but not many of either for Chengdu/CQ but it's still a little early in the hiring season to be fair.
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I also ask you, why specifically Chengdu/CQ? Been to Chongqing and it didn't look anything so remarkable, pretty boring city even for nightlife I heard from local Chinese girls I fucked.
If those are the best cities in China to slay I guess I'm pretty cooked
Chicks are pretty hot from what I've seen from YouTube street vids, has perhaps one of the best averages in China. Also I'm a sucker for spicy food/hot pot and like the cyberpunk vibe. I'm more looking for a gf anyways and don't care a whole lot about nightlife but i agree it appears more sleepy than Chengdu.
Have you been to Chengdu yet?
From what ive gathered chicks are just as good looking and its more cosmopolitan and feels more like a Tier 1 but supposedly still has a chill vibe. I think nightlife is better there as well if you care about that but in general most places in China outside of the biggest cities aren't amazing for it.
I'd choose it over CQ between the two. One downside might be the smoking tho which i personally dont like, how prevalent is it in you experience?
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So your choice boils down to the fact that you feel like the average girl is prettier compared to other parts of China? I've only been in this part so can't really compare for now. Btw I don't care about nightlife either since i'm not NT/super good looking or tall. Going to clubs alone is a nightmare for me.
Regarding smoking yes, a lot of girls smoke and pretty heavily as well, also lots of people spitting on the ground but it's old man mostly
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True but they're still good to keep in mind as a date venue on occasion if you find somewhere you actually like and think is chill. Free/cheap clubs with live music and tables you can sit at can mog regular bars. Talking in each others' ears and not worrying about awkward silence, etc. Every city in the world has a slop club that plays pop shit or 2hollis industry plants or whatever.
The reason why Guangzhou (not so much anymore) and Chengdu were some of my top choices is because of the art/underground culture if you like artsy/weird girls. Cities known for these things have people gravitate towards them; chicken and egg kind of thing in a way. The type of girls I like (usually non NT, why else go to China) that I've met here in Wuhan don't actually like the city and often aren't locals lol.
Either you play the looks-money-status game and find "normal" girls which you can find anywhere, or you nichemaxx for personality. That is law
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Will give an update eventually when there's something to report but it's quite early in the hiring season with not a whole lot of job postings yet and so far only a few recruiters have reached out with lowball offers.
I also still have to start getting my documents together and get stuff apostilled which will take a while.
I also still have to start getting my documents together and get stuff apostilled which will take a while.
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My experience teaching a semester at a Chinese uni so far:
The lack of management is so bad it's good, but to a point. The lack of oversight something I knew about coming in, and I enjoy it greatly. I've never been in any big meetings and I barely know who from my work on my WeChat even "is" for the school besides what I generally can ask them about.
I can count on one hand the amount of classes of mine that have even been supervised. Even on my very first class, whatever teacher/supervisor was there left after like 15 minutes. I barely slept at all the first few days. I tried to plan lessons and everything for the first few days and I barely even slept or ate due to the stress/imposter syndrome, but basically, after the first week, I realized I could just skim the chapter we were on that week for like 10 minutes while waiting for all the students to arrive, or not even that, and just wing it by reading off the powerpoints. I have textbooks for all my classes, and associated powerpoints for them as well. I highly recommend NOT taking a job if you can't just go off a textbook for all your classes. You can go from slide to slide reading off of them like a robot, or just pick what you like and stretch the time by yapping about random shit in between topics like I do. But having to plan lessons from scratch seems like it could easily double your workload. Fuck that.
But living and working in China is still a crazy web of random paperwork and bureaucracy to the point I just find it hilarious. You need a certain carefree personality type to thrive in China. In total I spent days and days on ChatGPT (which I highly recommend) figuring out everything from getting my bank account sorted (I spent at least an hour trying to make an account on the app only to find I needed to type my name in all caps for some reason), taxes, setting up the dozen apps you need and filling in their annoying forms, what websites to use/where to go for buying certain things, etc. etc. Meanwhile there's another foid foreign teacher at my uni for whom it's also her first year teaching here and she's totally depressed and chronically stressed just due to the lack of agency in sorting out things like the aforementioned, combined with overthinking the fuck out of classes and lesson planning. The truth is the majority of students barely care. There are 2 main types of teachers in the world: those who are overly serious, enjoy schadenfreude, and have some kind of authority complex - and those who just want to make people enjoy themselves. For a subject like language learning, where hours over time immersed in the language beats anything you can do in a classroom setting, I couldn't care less about being rigorous.
Round 2 is approaching. Going forward, I think I'll probably only work at universities for the forseeable future. High school pays a lot more, but I value the 8~10 2-hour classes/week at universities much more. I'm quite satisfied in life just rotting in my apartment so I save a lot more of my 11k/month salary than I expected despite cooking at home with high-quality food I order online and buying random shit on taobao pretty consistently.
As for Wuhan, it's a New Tier 1 city so you have access to basically anything you want, but it's nothing special. Most locals I've talked to say it's a boring city, but who knows if every Chinese person doesn't say that about their city since they all lowkey hate themselves. The center of any city is substantially more aesthetically pleasing and clean than the outskirts (like where I live) but it's come to the point where I don't really care since I'm usually at home. At the end of the day, after you're in China for a while, most leisure activities like going to the big shopping streets, clubs, etc. in the city center gets pretty old after not long and it doesn't really justify having to live there. I still maintain that China is probably the best country to travel in though, and that most of your time spent in a new city should be in the center obviously. And also the "slaying logistics" I was initially worried about is generally fine. Uni campuses are massive and the security gate is pretty lax out of the 2 or 3 I've been to so far. It kinda sucks not being able to taxi right outside your apartment building and instead having to walk for like 10 minutes, but that's basically it. The person living in my building under me almost definitely hears girls moaning but it's come to the point where I don't really care because it's just 1 year jfl.
My target next time is still mainly Sichuan. But after having gone to a more quiet city like Harbin (maybe that's just cuz it's icy there) which I quite enjoyed, I'm actually a lot more open to going to a proper tier 2 because I value peace and a slow pace of life a lot; more than things like dating tbqh. Though I'll almost definitely save moving to any T2-T4 cities to the ones I've actually visited for a decent amount of time. I'm still yet to do a grand tour of the country.
Oh and one more thing is that I ironically lost most of my motivation to learn Mandarin after getting here. After going outside and getting sensorily bombarded with chinkshit I just like unwinding to the point I occasionally forget I'm even in China. I briefly talked about it in some other thread but learning local languages kind of overrated if you're a true introvert. I'm all for a growth mindset but the truth is that Mandarin is a HARD fucking language to become fluent in and capture all the nuance and cultural context to ever really ""fit in"" deeply with locals and I don't really see massive benefit in that anyways. I like being a ghost. My current FWB is fluent in English and tapped in to modern American culture due to doomscrolling reels/tiktok.
The lack of management is so bad it's good, but to a point. The lack of oversight something I knew about coming in, and I enjoy it greatly. I've never been in any big meetings and I barely know who from my work on my WeChat even "is" for the school besides what I generally can ask them about.
I can count on one hand the amount of classes of mine that have even been supervised. Even on my very first class, whatever teacher/supervisor was there left after like 15 minutes. I barely slept at all the first few days. I tried to plan lessons and everything for the first few days and I barely even slept or ate due to the stress/imposter syndrome, but basically, after the first week, I realized I could just skim the chapter we were on that week for like 10 minutes while waiting for all the students to arrive, or not even that, and just wing it by reading off the powerpoints. I have textbooks for all my classes, and associated powerpoints for them as well. I highly recommend NOT taking a job if you can't just go off a textbook for all your classes. You can go from slide to slide reading off of them like a robot, or just pick what you like and stretch the time by yapping about random shit in between topics like I do. But having to plan lessons from scratch seems like it could easily double your workload. Fuck that.
But living and working in China is still a crazy web of random paperwork and bureaucracy to the point I just find it hilarious. You need a certain carefree personality type to thrive in China. In total I spent days and days on ChatGPT (which I highly recommend) figuring out everything from getting my bank account sorted (I spent at least an hour trying to make an account on the app only to find I needed to type my name in all caps for some reason), taxes, setting up the dozen apps you need and filling in their annoying forms, what websites to use/where to go for buying certain things, etc. etc. Meanwhile there's another foid foreign teacher at my uni for whom it's also her first year teaching here and she's totally depressed and chronically stressed just due to the lack of agency in sorting out things like the aforementioned, combined with overthinking the fuck out of classes and lesson planning. The truth is the majority of students barely care. There are 2 main types of teachers in the world: those who are overly serious, enjoy schadenfreude, and have some kind of authority complex - and those who just want to make people enjoy themselves. For a subject like language learning, where hours over time immersed in the language beats anything you can do in a classroom setting, I couldn't care less about being rigorous.
Round 2 is approaching. Going forward, I think I'll probably only work at universities for the forseeable future. High school pays a lot more, but I value the 8~10 2-hour classes/week at universities much more. I'm quite satisfied in life just rotting in my apartment so I save a lot more of my 11k/month salary than I expected despite cooking at home with high-quality food I order online and buying random shit on taobao pretty consistently.
As for Wuhan, it's a New Tier 1 city so you have access to basically anything you want, but it's nothing special. Most locals I've talked to say it's a boring city, but who knows if every Chinese person doesn't say that about their city since they all lowkey hate themselves. The center of any city is substantially more aesthetically pleasing and clean than the outskirts (like where I live) but it's come to the point where I don't really care since I'm usually at home. At the end of the day, after you're in China for a while, most leisure activities like going to the big shopping streets, clubs, etc. in the city center gets pretty old after not long and it doesn't really justify having to live there. I still maintain that China is probably the best country to travel in though, and that most of your time spent in a new city should be in the center obviously. And also the "slaying logistics" I was initially worried about is generally fine. Uni campuses are massive and the security gate is pretty lax out of the 2 or 3 I've been to so far. It kinda sucks not being able to taxi right outside your apartment building and instead having to walk for like 10 minutes, but that's basically it. The person living in my building under me almost definitely hears girls moaning but it's come to the point where I don't really care because it's just 1 year jfl.
My target next time is still mainly Sichuan. But after having gone to a more quiet city like Harbin (maybe that's just cuz it's icy there) which I quite enjoyed, I'm actually a lot more open to going to a proper tier 2 because I value peace and a slow pace of life a lot; more than things like dating tbqh. Though I'll almost definitely save moving to any T2-T4 cities to the ones I've actually visited for a decent amount of time. I'm still yet to do a grand tour of the country.
Oh and one more thing is that I ironically lost most of my motivation to learn Mandarin after getting here. After going outside and getting sensorily bombarded with chinkshit I just like unwinding to the point I occasionally forget I'm even in China. I briefly talked about it in some other thread but learning local languages kind of overrated if you're a true introvert. I'm all for a growth mindset but the truth is that Mandarin is a HARD fucking language to become fluent in and capture all the nuance and cultural context to ever really ""fit in"" deeply with locals and I don't really see massive benefit in that anyways. I like being a ghost. My current FWB is fluent in English and tapped in to modern American culture due to doomscrolling reels/tiktok.
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Do you have to stand up and walk around the stage while teaching like Steve Jobs or do you get to sit down while doing it @Orientalist
And yea cba to study chinese rn. I just pick up little by little whenever they talk to me asking the same things
I only go outside in the mornings or night and the rest of the time just rot in my apartment in the city center and watch the scene change
Only problem is most things ordered on taobao i have to go to my neighborhood caino to pick it up. Other than that, i survive off of importing everything from meituan
And yea cba to study chinese rn. I just pick up little by little whenever they talk to me asking the same things
I only go outside in the mornings or night and the rest of the time just rot in my apartment in the city center and watch the scene change
Only problem is most things ordered on taobao i have to go to my neighborhood caino to pick it up. Other than that, i survive off of importing everything from meituan
Orientalist
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Lol yeah I walk around. Classes are 25-50 students max so the rooms are pretty small
14passport
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are you using language apps, dating apps or approaching?
how are you finding the quality and quantity of girls you can slay?
RenaissanceMan
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Do you see yourself long term in China or is it just too alienating?
Orientalist
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I don’t find alienation to really be a con. That’s kinda why I travel. Especially when I can go wherever I please if I want a change of pace a few months out of the year
Orientalist
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I use Migaku for language learning. It mogs everything else
As for dating, quality is acceptable I guess but I don’t really enjoy hooking up with randoms and use apps (tinder + bumble, + could rednotemaxx if I wanted to tryhard) pretty selectively. If I wanted to though, I could probably get a new plain jane HTB girl every 2 weeks or so as a HMTN, especially if I started from scratch in the city. Bumble somewhat mogs tinder but as you may know, they both don’t have a ton of users. For Wuhan specifically most of them aren’t really my type and/or speak fuck all English. And I’m moreso looking for something long term so I can’t be arsed google translate maxxing with a girl (which is fine for slaying tbh but not LTR lol)
wannaimprove
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what is your mandarin level
