Thoughts on the upcoming global population collapse?

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whoever has the data should start a birthdate collapse thread - it’s a topic that gets surprisingly silenced and hush hushed in other places online. It’s crazy how effectively the elite are collapsing demographics right now.
This is a profoundly interesting podcast that I listen to pretty often; one of the most prescient I've ever heard on contemporary topics that get all the attention. Almost guaranteed if you go through all the episodes you WILL be blackpilled a few ideas you had some serious optimism in. Basically they're convinced that without an insane level of intervention, there's going to be a worldwide population collapse where most nations will be wiped out or reduced to city states. They matter of factly have this as a core part of their worldview and life plans and a lot of the episodes of the pod revolve around that topic.

In this one they go deeper into why there's a 99% chance China (and Taiwan) is going to get wiped out the game, (also due to economic/geopolitical reasons, but also certainly due to population collapse especially in the case of Taiwan)
 
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there's going to be a worldwide population collapse where most nations will be wiped out or reduced to city states. They matter of factly have this as a core part of their
That's what everything is pointing to, everywhere in the world fertility rates are collapsing, small and medium sized cities are quickly disappearing, population is moving to the big cities.

However it seems incredibly hard to predict what will happen in the next 50-100 years, how many have correctly predicted 50 years ago that we would be seeing sub 1 fertility rates?
I doubt anyone can even predict where the bottom will be.

Some megacities (Seoul, Shanghai) are starting to hit 0.6 fertility rate.
It seems unlikely for this to be the bottom as China and South Korea have taken no serious measures and it's not something you can quickly fix.

Where will it bounce to once good measures are put in place?

One thing for sure, China is gonna be the most fucked up country, because the hole is gonna be 100s of millions of people, you can't fix that with immigration.
 
only since you have suggested watching it, shall i give it a chance later

but from the looks of it, they seem sus

standford and cambridge degree backgrounds. their education reform that they’re doing on their children looks interesting, but they’re so open they didn’t also think to do a program in china to further their perspective?

seems like an intelligence agency

and going thru their twitter quickly, they mention progressive culture as the reason black american culture nowadays is shit compared to the 60s/70s

but from the title alone, i can only assume they won’t discuss as how american blacks were just testing grounds by the cia in order to see how best to destabilize a nuclear household to then have them split up and spend twice on rent, insurance, etc etc
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That's what everything is pointing to, everywhere in the world fertility rates are collapsing, small and medium sized cities are quickly disappearing, population is moving to the big cities.

However it seems incredibly hard to predict what will happen in the next 50-100 years, how many have correctly predicted 50 years ago that we would be seeing sub 1 fertility rates?
I doubt anyone can even predict where the bottom will be.

Some megacities (Seoul, Shanghai) are starting to hit 0.6 fertility rate.
It seems unlikely for this to be the bottom as China and South Korea have taken no serious measures and it's not something you can quickly fix.

Where will it bounce to once good measures are put in place?

One thing for sure, China is gonna be the most fucked up country, because the hole is gonna be 100s of millions of people, you can't fix that with immigration.
eh, they’re betting on ai/robots along with a more educated and highly skilled population supplementing the loss of work

always remember, posts and western studies advocating too heavily in favor of china being completely fucked are most likely us government funded to sow dissent

in the end, they’re literally the oldest continual civilization. i think they’ll be fine lol
 
the only threat from population decline is immigration and increasing violence

theoretically some countries will just let old people die. but oh gee they're already suggesting suicide to basically every single person in canada already. its not a serious threat
 
eh, they’re betting on ai/robots along with a more educated and highly skilled population supplementing the loss of work

always remember, posts and western studies advocating too heavily in favor of china being completely fucked are most likely us government funded to sow dissent

in the end, they’re literally the oldest continual civilization. i think they’ll be fine lol
in terms of population, not quality of life
 
That's what everything is pointing to, everywhere in the world fertility rates are collapsing, small and medium sized cities are quickly disappearing, population is moving to the big cities.

However it seems incredibly hard to predict what will happen in the next 50-100 years, how many have correctly predicted 50 years ago that we would be seeing sub 1 fertility rates?
I doubt anyone can even predict where the bottom will be.

Some megacities (Seoul, Shanghai) are starting to hit 0.6 fertility rate.
It seems unlikely for this to be the bottom as China and South Korea have taken no serious measures and it's not something you can quickly fix.

Where will it bounce to once good measures are put in place?

One thing for sure, China is gonna be the most fucked up country, because the hole is gonna be 100s of millions of people, you can't fix that with immigration.
It will bounce when governments will enforce child birth. There is no going back, unless you put again women on leash
 
the only threat from population decline is immigration and increasing violence

theoretically some countries will just let old people die. but oh gee they're already suggesting suicide to basically every single person in canada already. its not a serious threat
new generation will have the burden to sustain those unproductive oldcels that left them this shitty socioeconomic situation
 
eh, they’re betting on ai/robots along with a more educated and highly skilled population supplementing the loss of work

always remember, posts and western studies advocating too heavily in favor of china being completely fucked are most likely us government funded to sow dissent

in the end, they’re literally the oldest continual civilization. i think they’ll be fine lol
I think its the opposite, where they overplay China in order to hedge neo con drums for war and potential conflicts
 
lmao if you think that will ever happen and that it would fix the issue
Nobody with an unbraiwashed brain would think that. It would fix the issue tough. It would create other complications, but this specific issue would be resolved.
 
what is going on in Macao?

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Really hope south korea, china and japan start tapping into the population of neighbouring countries, because otherwise they'll decline so fast
 
what is going on in Macao?

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they prob go over to zhuhai to have birth and such

living in zhuhai, a mainland chinese city right next to macao is probably what they do, while working in macao. cheaper to live in mainland

zhuhai is nice. fucked a girl there the first night i went

good ole days

just reminiscing about my old conquests while drinking a smoothie
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