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Polish people have never been renowned for sophistication, cultural capital, or refined taste in general. They are fundamentally a nation of farmers and peasants, and it has always been that way. Many chuds regard Poland as the "ultra trad based country," but I've always had this quote about Polish society: "They are based, but for the wrong reasons!"- meaning they are simply a very fearful and ignorant people, lacking any real understanding of broader ideas. Anything from the outside terrifies them, as they have been perpetual losers throughout history. Now that they have served as a satellite of the US and NATO for quite some time, their society has modernized in the most repellent ways one could imagine. While hip-hop music and black culture are in a global recession, I have never encountered more slavish "wigger" types than in Poland. There is a reason Lil Yachty created a song called "Poland" and The Weeknd referenced "flights from Poland" on his earlier track "Crew Love." While the rest of the world is gradually moving beyond degeneracy, Poland is only just getting started!

In the past, the place held some appeal due to the novelty of being a foreigner there. It was notoriously easy for men seeking a quick lay, which is why so many Italian Erasmus students chose it as their study-abroad destination. That advantage eroded years ago, and nowadays, when I pass through the country, I am simply appalled by the modern Polish woman. It is as if liberalism has been recently installed on their peasant minds, and they are blindly executing the script, just as they did with that low IQ village conservatism before. Admittedly, the quality of life in Poland remains among the best in Europe - I must give credit to these villagers for keeping their homes clean and safe; that is likely the only genuine advantage this place offers. But even all of this fine quality of life, delicious food, and immaculate streets will never redeem the disdain I feel when gazing into the fearful, vacant chicken eyes of the average Pole. A lot of what I see in Poland these days reminds me of the UK in some weird way, especially the cakeface make up and overly revealing dresses that females use... Maybe that is why all of these brit daygamers considered it their mecca for so many years?

I have never come across a more small-minded, fear-driven, and intellectually underwhelming people than the Poles. In general, the smaller Slavic nations under the EU umbrella are all so mundane and devoid of any real finesse. Their false humility, passive aggressiveness, and that peculiar sense of pride they possess are truly nauseating. Even their language and intonation grate on my ears. A prime example of this society's retardation is my Russian-American friend, raised in NYC and thus presenting as fully American in accent and demeanor. If he introduced himself as "Alex from NYC," he would receive unmatched, doggish submission from local males and a significant SMV boost among the women. But the moment he revealed his Russian roots, these young zoomers completely turned on him in a manner reminiscent of actual cult behavior. I am from a country they view as "neutral," but when I inquired why they switched up like that, they simply said "because Russia bad." Note that this occurred before the Ukraine conflict! And now, with the conflict underway, they talk a big game, as if they were anything without their true overlord, the USA, backing them. After my time in Poland, I spent some time in France and Italy and realized I would far prefer to live there, baggage and all, than endure one more day in Poland staring at these retarded villagers. Western European women at least possess eugenic features and are capable, to some extent, of multi-order thinking; moreover, many of them have become disillusioned with liberalism, migrant crime, and the like. Western girls lack that same sickening tryhard energy of the low-confidence, uptalking Poles and instead simply go about their lives. With the economic situation rather dire in Italy, it has become surprisingly easy to moneymog and lifestylemog the average Italian, and it almost feels like a less degenerate version of Brazil at this point. Being a wealthy man of culture is still recognized and appreciated there, while the Polish swine dance to the trap beats of Travis Scott and devour KFC like the real goyim they are.


Bear in mind that I wrote all of this just being an observer, I have no skin in the game there. As mentioned before I have settled down many years ago. Just venting in an airport lounge.
 
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Too be fair Poland heavily suffered from soviet occupation and in their mind that is still very fresh. It's still a good location, especially since it's very easy to reach within Europe.

Without Poland I still might be a virgin today.

The last time I was there was in 2023. I did a workation in Warsaw for a month and could date and sleep with 4 girls in that time. Still considering to go back to finally find a woman to maybe settle down with
 
Polish people have never been renowned for sophistication, cultural capital, or refined taste in general. They are fundamentally a nation of farmers and peasants, and it has always been that way. Many chuds regard Poland as the "ultra trad based country," but I've always had this quote about Polish society: "They are based, but for the wrong reasons!"- meaning they are simply a very fearful and ignorant people, lacking any real understanding of broader ideas. Anything from the outside terrifies them, as they have been perpetual losers throughout history. Now that they have served as a satellite of the US and NATO for quite some time, their society has modernized in the most repellent ways one could imagine. While hip-hop music and black culture are in a global recession, I have never encountered more slavish "wigger" types than in Poland. There is a reason Lil Yachty created a song called "Poland" and The Weeknd referenced "flights from Poland" on his earlier track "Crew Love." While the rest of the world is gradually moving beyond degeneracy, Poland is only just getting started!

In the past, the place held some appeal due to the novelty of being a foreigner there. It was notoriously easy for men seeking a quick lay, which is why so many Italian Erasmus students chose it as their study-abroad destination. That advantage eroded years ago, and nowadays, when I pass through the country, I am simply appalled by the modern Polish woman. It is as if liberalism has been recently installed on their peasant minds, and they are blindly executing the script, just as they did with that low IQ village conservatism before. Admittedly, the quality of life in Poland remains among the best in Europe - I must give credit to these villagers for keeping their homes clean and safe; that is likely the only genuine advantage this place offers. But even all of this fine quality of life, delicious food, and immaculate streets will never redeem the disdain I feel when gazing into the fearful, vacant chicken eyes of the average Pole. A lot of what I see in Poland these days reminds me of the UK in some weird way, especially the cakeface make up and overly revealing dresses that females use... Maybe that is why all of these brit daygamers considered it their mecca for so many years?

I have never come across a more small-minded, fear-driven, and intellectually underwhelming people than the Poles. In general, the smaller Slavic nations under the EU umbrella are all so mundane and devoid of any real finesse. Their false humility, passive aggressiveness, and that peculiar sense of pride they possess are truly nauseating. Even their language and intonation grate on my ears. A prime example of this society's retardation is my Russian-American friend, raised in NYC and thus presenting as fully American in accent and demeanor. If he introduced himself as "Alex from NYC," he would receive unmatched, doggish submission from local males and a significant SMV boost among the women. But the moment he revealed his Russian roots, these young zoomers completely turned on him in a manner reminiscent of actual cult behavior. I am from a country they view as "neutral," but when I inquired why they switched up like that, they simply said "because Russia bad." Note that this occurred before the Ukraine conflict! And now, with the conflict underway, they talk a big game, as if they were anything without their true overlord, the USA, backing them. After my time in Poland, I spent some time in France and Italy and realized I would far prefer to live there, baggage and all, than endure one more day in Poland staring at these retarded villagers. Western European women at least possess eugenic features and are capable, to some extent, of multi-order thinking; moreover, many of them have become disillusioned with liberalism, migrant crime, and the like. Western girls lack that same sickening tryhard energy of the low-confidence, uptalking Poles and instead simply go about their lives. With the economic situation rather dire in Italy, it has become surprisingly easy to moneymog and lifestylemog the average Italian, and it almost feels like a less degenerate version of Brazil at this point. Being a wealthy man of culture is still recognized and appreciated there, while the Polish swine dance to the trap beats of Travis Scott and devour KFC like the real goyim they are.


Bear in mind that I wrote all of this just being an observer, I have no skin in the game there. As mentioned before I have settled down many years ago. Just venting in an airport lounge.
What kind of American are you exactly?
Or are you from somewhere else?
 
Too be fair Poland heavily suffered from soviet occupation and in their mind that is still very fresh. It's still a good location, especially since it's very easy to reach within Europe.

Without Poland I still might be a virgin today.

The last time I was there was in 2023. I did a workation in Warsaw for a month and could date and sleep with 4 girls in that time. Still considering to go back to finally find a woman to maybe settle down with
Don't get me wrong! My rant (deliberately over the top!) comes from a very specific perspective. Poland is still a solid place for most normie guys, because the women tend to be polite, shy, and indirect. And yeah, while the foreigner novelty factor has faded somewhat, Polish men on the whole are significantly more dysgenic than men in most Western countries, so any guy can still get an SMV boost there and manage to date and have a good time.
When I first started out, Poland was great for me because I got to practice daygame and work through my approach anxiety. It always comes down to who you are and how far you want to take things.

Call me a snob, call me a megalomaniac, but Poland and its culture just felt too simple-minded and provincial for my taste. It depends on where you grew up, what you value, what your standards are, and so on. Some guys don't mind the garlic breath and burps of provincial Chinese girls, as long as they get to be with someone who's visually far beyond what they could pull back home. The things that bother me might be completely invisible to you (probably because you come from a different background) and that's fine. But for me, the Poles are simply unbearable at this point. It comes down to the fact that they excel at nothing yet carry this bizarre villager pride that I genuinely despise. Some of their wealthier guys larp as sophisticated Eurofags, but they're not even in the same league. Ask anyone from Paris who the laughing stock is at Hotel Costes: it's the fucking Polacks with their awkward, stuttering accents! Many great men of the past - Voltaire, Napoleon, Dostoyevsky, among others, held similar views on the Poles, so these patterns have been observable for centuries.

There's nothing redeeming or truly excellent about their society, which is why I don't see it as a good place for a foreigner to settle down. In some strange way, I even have more admiration for Thai people (LOL) than for Poles... and man, that's very low-hanging fruit.
For instance, I still love spending time in the US because even though Americans lack culture, they're at least self-aware about it and genuinely excel at doing business, innovating and getting things done.

All of these observations became more and more apparent the further I ascended on my journey. Would you believe me if I told you my SMV is higher in Hong Kong, Moscow, New York, or Milan than it is in Warsaw?
It boils down to the fact that to really succeed there, you need to become more Polish, i.e. learn the language, befriend people, and maybe even fabricate some story about having Polish ancestry to land the real stacies. While I've done this with Russian and Ukrainian culture, I saw absolutely no point in doing the same for Poland. Why would I have to Chudmaxx just to hook up with some humble, low-confidence, and incredibly naive Polish girl? Those are certainly not the character traits I'd want in the mother of my children.

What kind of American are you exactly?
Or are you from somewhere else?
I am from Switzerland but I grew up in quite many different places around the world, even as a child.
 
Polish people have never been renowned for sophistication, cultural capital, or refined taste in general. They are fundamentally a nation of farmers and peasants, and it has always been that way. Many chuds regard Poland as the "ultra trad based country," but I've always had this quote about Polish society: "They are based, but for the wrong reasons!"- meaning they are simply a very fearful and ignorant people, lacking any real understanding of broader ideas. Anything from the outside terrifies them, as they have been perpetual losers throughout history. Now that they have served as a satellite of the US and NATO for quite some time, their society has modernized in the most repellent ways one could imagine. While hip-hop music and black culture are in a global recession, I have never encountered more slavish "wigger" types than in Poland. There is a reason Lil Yachty created a song called "Poland" and The Weeknd referenced "flights from Poland" on his earlier track "Crew Love." While the rest of the world is gradually moving beyond degeneracy, Poland is only just getting started!

In the past, the place held some appeal due to the novelty of being a foreigner there. It was notoriously easy for men seeking a quick lay, which is why so many Italian Erasmus students chose it as their study-abroad destination. That advantage eroded years ago, and nowadays, when I pass through the country, I am simply appalled by the modern Polish woman. It is as if liberalism has been recently installed on their peasant minds, and they are blindly executing the script, just as they did with that low IQ village conservatism before. Admittedly, the quality of life in Poland remains among the best in Europe - I must give credit to these villagers for keeping their homes clean and safe; that is likely the only genuine advantage this place offers. But even all of this fine quality of life, delicious food, and immaculate streets will never redeem the disdain I feel when gazing into the fearful, vacant chicken eyes of the average Pole. A lot of what I see in Poland these days reminds me of the UK in some weird way, especially the cakeface make up and overly revealing dresses that females use... Maybe that is why all of these brit daygamers considered it their mecca for so many years?

I have never come across a more small-minded, fear-driven, and intellectually underwhelming people than the Poles. In general, the smaller Slavic nations under the EU umbrella are all so mundane and devoid of any real finesse. Their false humility, passive aggressiveness, and that peculiar sense of pride they possess are truly nauseating. Even their language and intonation grate on my ears. A prime example of this society's retardation is my Russian-American friend, raised in NYC and thus presenting as fully American in accent and demeanor. If he introduced himself as "Alex from NYC," he would receive unmatched, doggish submission from local males and a significant SMV boost among the women. But the moment he revealed his Russian roots, these young zoomers completely turned on him in a manner reminiscent of actual cult behavior. I am from a country they view as "neutral," but when I inquired why they switched up like that, they simply said "because Russia bad." Note that this occurred before the Ukraine conflict! And now, with the conflict underway, they talk a big game, as if they were anything without their true overlord, the USA, backing them. After my time in Poland, I spent some time in France and Italy and realized I would far prefer to live there, baggage and all, than endure one more day in Poland staring at these retarded villagers. Western European women at least possess eugenic features and are capable, to some extent, of multi-order thinking; moreover, many of them have become disillusioned with liberalism, migrant crime, and the like. Western girls lack that same sickening tryhard energy of the low-confidence, uptalking Poles and instead simply go about their lives. With the economic situation rather dire in Italy, it has become surprisingly easy to moneymog and lifestylemog the average Italian, and it almost feels like a less degenerate version of Brazil at this point. Being a wealthy man of culture is still recognized and appreciated there, while the Polish swine dance to the trap beats of Travis Scott and devour KFC like the real goyim they are.


Bear in mind that I wrote all of this just being an observer, I have no skin in the game there. As mentioned before I have settled down many years ago. Just venting in an airport lounge.

Quite an excellent write-up you've posted here. I wholeheartedly agree, and I can also provide a greater insight into all of this and more about Poland, having lived there for more than three years. Being an American in Krakow, Warsaw, Gdansk, Poznan, Wroclaw, and just about anywhere in Poland was once considered a novelty. A White American man like myself was once considered exotic, and that includes men who are 5s and 6s, too.

However, in a strange twist of irony, Poland absorbed so much of American culture from NYC, LA, San Francisco, Chicago, etc., including Hollywood values, dating culture, and socialization, to name but a few, to the point where the novelty of American culture wore off, and Americans themselves were no longer exotic.

Interestingly enough, the Poles have absorbed the worst traits of Left-wing American culture, while keeping the worst traits of their native culture. The youth in Rzeszow, Krakow, Gdansk, Warsaw, Katowice, Wroclaw, and Poznan are among the snobbiest, narcissistic, passive-aggressive elitists I've ever had the displeasure of being around. They will ONLY like you, let alone respect you, if you're rich, handsome, tall, and can flaunt it all at once. Granted, if you have none of those things, you'll still be able to develop acquaintances and some friends down the line, but your overall quality of life will either be on par with that of America (or wherever you're from) or a downgrade from it. I wasn't rich, but I got compared to Ryan Gosling multiple times while there, so I suppose I'm more handsome than I give myself credit for (I just need to lose 30 pounds and be lean again, and then I'll be rather set in the looks department 🤣).

It's truly a shame what's happened to Poland, and I do feel that fver since the 2015 scandals in the Catholic Church, which their left-wing media spun to make them look worse and more numerous than they actually were, the youth, being the sheep they are, went from being Folk Christians like their parents to ardent Secular Leftist Hedonists like Americans in my home state of California. Hell, there's even graffiti in Krakow that says "Eat The Rich", which is something I used to only see in San Francisco 10 years ago. What also doesn't help with this just how much global attention Poland has gotten via social media, specifically YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, and X (Twitter), which have inflated the egos of young Poles beyond belief since 2022.

Speaking of which, I was in Warsaw back in 2022, and I shit you not, I went by the Soviet Memorial Cemetery, and the monument at the center of it had a picture of George Floyd resting on it... That's not even mentioning how much immigration from Africa, India, and other non-European countries has been increasing in recent years. Sure, it's remained lower than say, Croatia, which has now 8-11% of its population being non-European, but given the direction of Poland, you can most certainly expect it to go the same route, and as a matter of fact, once Western Europe gets its act together (which I think it will, or at least, Germany, Britain and France will, while Denmark, Spain, Belgium and especially Ireland are going to continue circling the drain), I GAURANTEE you that Poland, Czech Republic, Croatia, the Baltic States, Slovenia and Montenegro will all be far more degenerate and woke than Western Europe and the United States ever were at their peaks. They'll be right up there with Canada. In fact, Poland is basically Canada from 2010/2012, so it checks out.

I'm glad as hell I don't live there anymore. I'll visit because I have friends there, but you cannot pay me to live there again. I'd rather live in Slovakia, which is the last Slavic country besides Russia, Belarus, Bosnia, and to a lesser extent, Macedonia and Serbia (outside of Belgrade + surrounding areas), to be remotely Christian and traditional, including among the youth.
 

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For instance, I still love spending time in the US because even though Americans lack culture, they're at least self-aware about it and genuinely excel at doing business, innovating and getting things done.


I am from Switzerland but I grew up in quite many different places around the world, even as a child.
A write up about HK would be genuinely interesting
 
as far as the original post it is very simple to see what actually happened

you perceive yourself as sophisticated exotic foreigner and thought those backwards polish hoes will swoon over and drop to their knees

you went there and people saw just another tourist - nobody gave a fuck - > ego got hit - > writes 2000 word manifesto

how old were you when you went there ? and what did you expect ?

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Don't get me wrong! My rant (deliberately over the top!) comes from a very specific perspective. Poland is still a solid place for most normie guys, because the women tend to be polite, shy, and indirect. And yeah, while the foreigner novelty factor has faded somewhat, Polish men on the whole are significantly more dysgenic than men in most Western countries, so any guy can still get an SMV boost there and manage to date and have a good time.
When I first started out, Poland was great for me because I got to practice daygame and work through my approach anxiety. It always comes down to who you are and how far you want to take things.

Call me a snob, call me a megalomaniac, but Poland and its culture just felt too simple-minded and provincial for my taste. It depends on where you grew up, what you value, what your standards are, and so on. Some guys don't mind the garlic breath and burps of provincial Chinese girls, as long as they get to be with someone who's visually far beyond what they could pull back home. The things that bother me might be completely invisible to you (probably because you come from a different background) and that's fine. But for me, the Poles are simply unbearable at this point. It comes down to the fact that they excel at nothing yet carry this bizarre villager pride that I genuinely despise. Some of their wealthier guys larp as sophisticated Eurofags, but they're not even in the same league. Ask anyone from Paris who the laughing stock is at Hotel Costes: it's the fucking Polacks with their awkward, stuttering accents! Many great men of the past - Voltaire, Napoleon, Dostoyevsky, among others, held similar views on the Poles, so these patterns have been observable for centuries.

There's nothing redeeming or truly excellent about their society, which is why I don't see it as a good place for a foreigner to settle down. In some strange way, I even have more admiration for Thai people (LOL) than for Poles... and man, that's very low-hanging fruit.
For instance, I still love spending time in the US because even though Americans lack culture, they're at least self-aware about it and genuinely excel at doing business, innovating and getting things done.

All of these observations became more and more apparent the further I ascended on my journey. Would you believe me if I told you my SMV is higher in Hong Kong, Moscow, New York, or Milan than it is in Warsaw?
It boils down to the fact that to really succeed there, you need to become more Polish, i.e. learn the language, befriend people, and maybe even fabricate some story about having Polish ancestry to land the real stacies. While I've done this with Russian and Ukrainian culture, I saw absolutely no point in doing the same for Poland. Why would I have to Chudmaxx just to hook up with some humble, low-confidence, and incredibly naive Polish girl? Those are certainly not the character traits I'd want in the mother of my children.


I am from Switzerland but I grew up in quite many different places around the world, even as a child.

There a decent amount of women in the 6 range in Poland, those other cities seem harder to level up in no?
 
In terms of politics there the current center left government is importing less brownoids than the base right wing one in Italy, politically Poland seems relatively stable, I highly doubt both in terms of living and dating its any worse than Russia
 

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