News Keto diet (low-carb) causes liver insulin resistance, raises diabetes risk

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Finally some common sense is coming out of mainstream medicine. As the study below aptly shows, eating low carb diets results in fatty liver and liver-specific insulin resistance, both of which are key components of diabetes II. In fact, the study says that eating a high-fat high-carb diet is LESS detrimental than eating high-fat, low-carb (keto) diet. The latter is often called the “Western diet” and has been ridiculed in the medical literature as the main cause of most metabolic diseases. Yet, as it turns out it is less problematic than the keto diets since it prevented the liver-centric insulin resistance. While the article does not discuss endocrine aspects that may also be involved in this pathology, other studies have already implicated cortisol.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080909131223.htm

It is a well-known fact that low-carb diets raise baseline cortisol. Despite that well-known fact that even mainstream medicine does not deny, the study on keto diets and insulin resistance somehow fails to make the connection between endocrine imbalance (high cortisol) caused by the low-carb diet and diabetes II. I am not sure what else needs to happen before doctors realize that obesity, insulin resistance, diabetes II, and even CVD are endocrine disorders driven by cortisol/estrogen/prolactin and not simply due to “eating more and moving less”. Speaking of that last cliche, I will be soon posting another thread showing that dieting is in fact deleterious and a change in attitude among medical professionals on that topic is desperately needed.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/amp/322724

“…Ketogenic diets are low-carbohydrate, high-fat diets that have been shown to reduce weight. They change metabolism so that energy comes from fat instead of sugar. When researchers in Switzerland examined what happened to mice in the early stages of a ketogenic diet, they found that the animals showed a poorer ability to regulate blood sugar compared with similar mice on a high-fat, high-carbohydrate diet. In a paper on their work now published in the Journal of Physiology, they note that “even though [keto diet]-fed animals appear healthy in the fasted state, they exhibit decreased glucose tolerance to a greater extent than [high-fat diet]-fed animals.” The reason for this, they found, was that the livers of the keto diet-fed mice were not responding as well to insulin. This condition, which is known as insulin resistance, raises the risk of developing type 2 diabetes.”

“…However, the researchers found that the main reason for decreased glucose tolerance in the keto diet-fed mice was due to insulin resistance in the liver “rather than impaired glucose clearance and tissue glucose uptake.” Despite extensive research into the causes of insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes, they are not completely understood. One thing that scientists do know is that fat-like substances called lipids are “clearly associated with insulin resistance.” Even here, however, many questions remain, such as, “Is the link due to circulating fats or to fat buildup in tissue?”'

 
 

I've seen that site before. The guy who created rationalwiki writes shit like that about pretty much anyone. You could search for any famous person on rationalwiki and there will be some shit written about it. Search for Donald Trump etc on rationalwiki and it will be the same thing.
 
for all we know, newbie, you named yourself after a dead guy who is generally considered a quack. and you spam blog articles about his work that has nothing to do with geomaxxing into the forum. so what is this all about, mr. peat? (or should we rather call you haidut?)
 
for all we know, newbie, you named yourself after a dead guy who is generally considered a quack. and you spam blog articles about his work that has nothing to do with geomaxxing into the forum. so what is this all about, mr. peat? (or should we rather call you haidut?)

My intention is just to give health and nutrition advice basically.

I could summarize my health advice to 2 things

- eat high carb
- avoid polyunsaturated fatty acids

There is no "quackery" about the things Ray Peat has said. There is very strong scientific evidence that consumption of PUFA is harmful and causes a variety of diffrent diseases.
 
My intention is just to give health and nutrition advice basically.

I could summarize my health advice to 2 things

- eat high carb
- avoid polyunsaturated fatty acids

There is no "quackery" about the things Ray Peat has said. There is very strong scientific evidence that consumption of PUFA is harmful and causes a variety of diffrent diseases.
the general consensus in science is that polyunsaturated fatty acids are essential for the body.

what's supposed be to avoided are trans fats which the food industry creates by hardening/heating fat. they are found in french fries, pizza, chips, croissants, cookies etc.
 
the general consensus in science is that polyunsaturated fatty acids are essential for the body.

what's supposed be to avoided are trans fats which the food industry creates by hardening/heating fat. they are found in french fries, pizza, chips, croissants, cookies etc.

Haha bro you are so BASIC! You are genuinly BASIC if you believe that polyunsaturated fatty acids are good for the body. Do you actually believe that or are you just joking ?
 
Haha bro you are so BASIC! You are genuinly BASIC if you believe that polyunsaturated fatty acids are good for the body. Do you actually believe that or are you just joking ?
i haven't said anything about myself.

@AlexBrown84 did you encourage this clown to sign up or why does he spam his stuff and tag you? :LOL:
 
Rational Wiki is so fucking cringe.
'cholesterol denialist.' JFL.
Everything that goes against their religion of science is denialism.
 
At the end of the day, carbs and protein will keep you alive when you’re old
 
95% of people can softmaxx just fine by eating a relatively high-protein diet and doing light exercise. Swap out pasta for lentils. Swap out rice for vegetables. Try to eat chicken or fish every day. Get a pull-up bar and do a couple sets of pull ups, push ups, core exercises every day.

Obviously if you are obese or have medically-recognized deficiencies it's different but that's not the case for most people.

I have seen people go full gymcel with carefully constructed diets using a bunch of fancy nutritionist lingo, furiously counting reps and meticulously adjusting the weights on the rack by the ounce. And for what? So you can go from 14.7% body fat to 14.2%? It's just not the best use of your time in most cases, and can lead to burnout.
 
Every cell in your body is made from it. How's it going to kill you?
high levels of it will and do. saying otherwise is shit carnivore diet retards do to justify giving themselves heart disease
 
high levels of it will and do. saying otherwise is shit carnivore diet retards do to justify giving themselves heart disease
How? That's not proof or evidence. Cholestoral is in every cell of your body like I said. How is it bad for you?

Let me guess, you'll cite some correlation study because you don't understand the actual mechanisms of how it works.
Your own body produces cholestoral. Why would your body produce something that is harmful for you? Hm.

And people who have higher cholesterol levels are correlated with mortality? Maybe it's because cholesterol is an antioxidant that presents itself in high amounts as a response to inflammation in the body.
 
How? That's not proof or evidence. Cholestoral is in every cell of your body like I said. How is it bad for you?

Let me guess, you'll cite some correlation study because you don't understand the actual mechanisms of how it works.
Your own body produces cholestoral. Why would your body produce something that is harmful for you? Hm.

And people who have higher cholesterol levels are correlated with mortality? Maybe it's because cholesterol is an antioxidant that presents itself in high amounts as a response to inflammation in the body.
Look up familial hypercholesterolimia. It causes arteries to clog like crazy, and for cholesterol to be deposited under the skin and in your eyes.
High cholesterol absolutely kills. It's retarded as fuck to think otherwise.
 
Look up familial hypercholesterolimia. It causes arteries to clog like crazy, and for cholesterol to be deposited under the skin and in your eyes.
High cholesterol absolutely kills. It's retarded as fuck to think otherwise.
You didn't address any of my points, lol. You know your brain is made out of cholesterol and saturated animal fats, right? Maybe eat some more of it and you'll connect the dots and understand what I'm conveying to you.
 
Look up familial hypercholesterolimia. It causes arteries to clog like crazy, and for cholesterol to be deposited under the skin and in your eyes.
High cholesterol absolutely kills. It's retarded as fuck to think otherwise.
"Because LDL-C is elevated in FH and a subset of individuals with FH exhibit premature CHD, a diet-induced reduction of LDL-C has been assumed to serve as an effective surrogate marker for improved cardiovascular health. However, there is strong support for the view that LDL-C, in isolation, is a poor marker of risk for CHD in the general population, as well as in FH."

Further...
"We have evaluated dietary recommendations for people diagnosed with familial hypercholesterolaemia (FH), a genetic condition in which increased low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C) is associated with an increased risk for coronary heart disease (CHD). Recommendations for FH individuals have emphasised a low saturated fat, low cholesterol diet to reduce their LDL-C levels. The basis of this recommendation is the ‘diet-heart hypothesis’, which postulates that consumption of food rich in saturated fat increases serum cholesterol levels, which increases risk of CHD. We have challenged the rationale for FH dietary recommendations based on the absence of support for the diet-heart hypothesis, and the lack of evidence that a low saturated fat, low cholesterol diet reduces coronary events in FH individuals. As an alternative approach, we have summarised research which has shown that the subset of FH individuals that develop CHD exhibit risk factors associated with an insulin-resistant phenotype (elevated triglycerides, blood glucose, haemoglobin A1c (HbA1c), obesity, hyperinsulinaemia, high‐sensitivity C reactive protein, hypertension) or increased susceptibility to develop coagulopathy. The insulin-resistant phenotype, also referred to as the metabolic syndrome, manifests as carbohydrate intolerance, which is most effectively managed by a low carbohydrate diet (LCD). Therefore, we propose that FH individuals with signs of insulin resistance should be made aware of the benefits of an LCD. Our assessment of the literature provides the rationale for clinical trials to be conducted to determine if an LCD would prove to be effective in reducing the incidence of coronary events in FH individuals which exhibit an insulin-resistant phenotype or hypercoagulation risk."
 
"Because LDL-C is elevated in FH and a subset of individuals with FH exhibit premature CHD, a diet-induced reduction of LDL-C has been assumed to serve as an effective surrogate marker for improved cardiovascular health. However, there is strong support for the view that LDL-C, in isolation, is a poor marker of risk for CHD in the general population, as well as in FH."

Further...
"We have evaluated dietary recommendations for people diagnosed with familial hypercholesterolaemia (FH), a genetic condition in which increased low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C) is associated with an increased risk for coronary heart disease (CHD). Recommendations for FH individuals have emphasised a low saturated fat, low cholesterol diet to reduce their LDL-C levels. The basis of this recommendation is the ‘diet-heart hypothesis’, which postulates that consumption of food rich in saturated fat increases serum cholesterol levels, which increases risk of CHD. We have challenged the rationale for FH dietary recommendations based on the absence of support for the diet-heart hypothesis, and the lack of evidence that a low saturated fat, low cholesterol diet reduces coronary events in FH individuals. As an alternative approach, we have summarised research which has shown that the subset of FH individuals that develop CHD exhibit risk factors associated with an insulin-resistant phenotype (elevated triglycerides, blood glucose, haemoglobin A1c (HbA1c), obesity, hyperinsulinaemia, high‐sensitivity C reactive protein, hypertension) or increased susceptibility to develop coagulopathy. The insulin-resistant phenotype, also referred to as the metabolic syndrome, manifests as carbohydrate intolerance, which is most effectively managed by a low carbohydrate diet (LCD). Therefore, we propose that FH individuals with signs of insulin resistance should be made aware of the benefits of an LCD. Our assessment of the literature provides the rationale for clinical trials to be conducted to determine if an LCD would prove to be effective in reducing the incidence of coronary events in FH individuals which exhibit an insulin-resistant phenotype or hypercoagulation risk."

Footnotes​

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lmao
 
I'm not gonna have an argument abt cholesterol ya fuckin autist
Tbh even the oy vey FDA back in 2017 retracted their statements about there being any relation between dietary cholesterol and serum lipids, heart disease, arterial plaque, etc. Familiar hypercholesterolemia similarly has nothing to do with it.
Why OP is LARPing as ray peat on this forum of all places I have no idea and I think I'm doing a disservice to my conscience via participating in this debate, but can't help myself so good article: https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/cholesterol-longevity.shtml

Keto actually will raise your serum lipids, primarily due to the fact limiting carbs wrecks your metabolism (thyroid health is crucial
).
 

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