Is @marauder 's chadfish strategy viable?

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his first picture is him but heavily morphed into a high htn/low chadlite. his second picture is his real face which looks like a low mtn. The third picture shows his bumble results (many likes and mtbs texting him) that he got after a 2 hour layover in Hongkong. the last picture shows the chad treatment he got on bumble. Is this strategy viable? I would not morph my face but maybe anglefraud on bumble to get higher results. and maybe remove my height (175 cm) from my profile which would also be a fraud. shall I do it?

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Clearly it's most likely better than nothing from a pure numbers perspective ngl. I also think angle frauding barely counts as frauding tbh. IRL things balance out and you don't notice flaws as easily, especially compared to pictures of yourself. The difference just needs to not be massive

Chinese girls hit my line because they think I look like Taylor Swift so something tells me you can get away with a lot
 
his first picture is him but heavily morphed into a high htn/low chadlite. his second picture is his real face which looks like a low mtn. The third picture shows his bumble results (many likes and mtbs texting him) that he got after a 2 hour layover in Hongkong. the last picture shows the chad treatment he got on bumble. Is this strategy viable? I would not morph my face but maybe anglefraud on bumble to get higher results. and maybe remove my height (175 cm) from my profile which would also be a fraud. shall I do it?

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I don't know in Asian countries but in Europe if you chadfish as pic #1 and you show up as #2 or looking worse than that, most girls would leave the date as soon as they can
your profile should more or less show you as you are IRL, if there's big difference, a hot girl will leave
 
his first picture is him but heavily morphed into a high htn/low chadlite. his second picture is his real face which looks like a low mtn. The third picture shows his bumble results (many likes and mtbs texting him) that he got after a 2 hour layover in Hongkong. the last picture shows the chad treatment he got on bumble. Is this strategy viable? I would not morph my face but maybe anglefraud on bumble to get higher results. and maybe remove my height (175 cm) from my profile which would also be a fraud. shall I do it?

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I think there’s a human phenomenon where frauding bleeds over to irl a bit, like if someone has really good pictures you might perceive them as better looking irl.

That being said there is a difference between using your best angles and lighting vs literally merging your face with a chad.

What marauder did undoubtedly caused every girl that met up with him to recognize he’s a catfish which is definitely too embarrassing and cringe in practice unless you’re a narcy jeet.

So overall, 100% use your best pics (especially your first pic on dating apps should be godtier) but don’t go full catfish unless your goal is farming validation by flexing on incel forums.
 
What marauder did undoubtedly caused every girl that met up with him to recognize he’s a catfish which is definitely too embarrassing and cringe in practice unless you’re a narcy jeet.
Most but probably not all. When I say "better than nothing from a numbers perspective" there was definitely 1 or 2 girls too retarded to know the difference due to not knowing what foreigners look like. The girls you don't meet the cut for, they prob wouldn't have swiped on you anyways if you used authentic pics. He probably says the catfish pic is when he was years younger or something if they ask.

Though I still very strongly doubt any form of catfishing is worth it in the grand scheme of things for actual IRL success besides farming IG followers or some shit. You're def cucking yourself if you upload trash pics, but surprising the girl and looking better irl can be beneficial for conversion. It's way better to meet up with girls you know you have a good chance with than having a million matches and going on dates with girls who think they're going to meet up with chad (and expect you to pay for both of the $25 drinks at the rooftop bar) no fucking point lol, waste of time for both of you

Even some genuine high PSL/mass appealmaxxed high ELO chads have this problem like Niko on .org with fucking thousands of matches rotting on dating apps but barely slay. But maybe that's just the West. From what I've gathered (and experienced) in non-brutal places like SEA, it should be like a 50:1 ratio or less of matches to actually fucking if you're decently nichemaxxed and have game
 
The app SNOW is good for these types of fine-grained facial adjustments

If you're not editing your photos you're not trying. But if you're editing them too much you're going to get burned... you need the plausible deniability of it being a "really good photo"

Litmus test: Hold your phone about 3 feet away from your face. You should not be able to differentiate between the original photo and the edited photo at this distance
 
The app SNOW is good for these types of fine-grained facial adjustments

If you're not editing your photos you're not trying. But if you're editing them too much you're going to get burned... you need the plausible deniability of it being a "really good photo"

Litmus test: Hold your phone about 3 feet away from your face. You should not be able to differentiate between the original photo and the edited photo at this distance
Yeah I've used this for professional photos/videos. Most of the options turn out very realistic-looking

They way I see it is there's an element of luck when it comes to taking "really good photos". Maybe your bedroom you're in everyday from which you take selfies and do video calls just has the perfect lighting for your facial features and whatnot - or maybe it's fucking terrible. Correcting things like that via editing pics to a plausible level that can and does exist IRL ≈ not necessarily distorting reality
 
choose good angles, edit pics, show a cool lifestyle, outfits, curate your bio... do everything you can to show your best self, as long as you look similar IRL

dont go too far cause you will match with a bunch of baddies but your IRL success will be extremely low if you can get even get any slays
 
Most but probably not all. When I say "better than nothing from a numbers perspective" there was definitely 1 or 2 girls too retarded to know the difference due to not knowing what foreigners look like. The girls you don't meet the cut for, they prob wouldn't have swiped on you anyways if you used authentic pics. He probably says the catfish pic is when he was years younger or something if they ask.
Yes that’s true, because catfishing relies on cognitive biases, the effectiveness depends on the other persons perceptiveness and awareness, I’m sure girls in the absolute lowest bracket of this (never seen a foreigner or retarded) accepted marauders level of frauding.
surprising the girl and looking better irl can be beneficial for conversion.
Sounds good in theory, but because people are affected by biases to varying extents, even if you look better than photos irl, those shit photos still contribute to a negative perception that ultimately lowers your value. I think using your best frauded photos is always 100% the play because of this. It’s just important to not make the girl aware you’re a catfish, and ofc the threshold for that is much higher in Asia where frauding is so normalized.
 
I think there’s a human phenomenon where frauding bleeds over to irl a bit, like if someone has really good pictures you might perceive them as better looking irl.
Yeah I think you're right about this.
I think a similar thing goes on with celebrities and PSL figures. If you saw someone like Chico irl for a few seconds walking down the street, I don't know if you would think twice. Yet countless people think he's literally the best looking man of all time because everyone has seen him in his prime on runways, etc. (and due to a lengthy career there's bound to be a lot of top tier pics circulating around contributing to that perception)
 
We got some valuable field data on this thanks to @masonfrancis and @Orientalist
Looks like our bhai's larps are starting to catch up with him as he's been getting exposed on xiaohongshu

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From the comments it seems like he had some varying results with this method, but the fact that a girl can say these two look the same is lowkey lifefuel.

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He also seems to have made quite the name for himself in the chinese dating scene with a lot of "sisters" claiming they've seen him before, so at the very least this strategy can get you known. 🤷‍♂️

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We got some valuable field data on this thanks to @masonfrancis and @Orientalist
Looks like our bhai's larps are starting to catch up with him as he's been getting exposed on xiaohongshu

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From the comments it seems like he had some varying results with this method, but the fact that a girl can say these two look the same is lowkey lifefuel.

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He also seems to have made quite the name for himself in the chinese dating scene with a lot of "sisters" claiming they've seen him before, so at the very least this strategy can get you known. 🤷‍♂️

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“Who looked like a stick insect, so i ran away immediately” LMAO😂
 
We got some valuable field data on this thanks to @masonfrancis and @Orientalist
Looks like our bhai's larps are starting to catch up with him as he's been getting exposed on xiaohongshu

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From the comments it seems like he had some varying results with this method, but the fact that a girl can say these two look the same is lowkey lifefuel.

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He also seems to have made quite the name for himself in the chinese dating scene with a lot of "sisters" claiming they've seen him before, so at the very least this strategy can get you known. 🤷‍♂️

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This is fucking terrifying why are they all banding together and outing mfers on social media? lmfao
 
they do this all the time I also saw it often on hellotalk. they were reposting white users and claiming they were cheating on their girlfriend and texting women on HT which cannot even be verified
You need to be careful man.

Marauders rep in China is finished, and you are next.

Even some Chinese girls know about this forum
 
You need to be careful man.

Marauders rep in China is finished, and you are next.

Even some Chinese girls know about this forum
I am not even in China right now only been there for a few months in my whole life, maybe will stick to Seoul because they are more westernized. but yeah you can catch lots of attention in China. must be careful. probably the government even has @marauder on their radar now
 
I am not even in China right now only been there for a few months in my whole life, maybe will stick to Seoul because they are more westernized. but yeah you can catch lots of attention in China. must be careful. probably the government even has @marauder on their radar now
I also got told that girls pay him for his attention and for sex in guandong..


He’s a well known face in China for sure
 
within Hellotalk, but they would also do it on Rednote. Chinese are into public shaming and have little respect for privacy. they also repost chat histories constantly so be careful what you text a Chinese girl.
This is why it's so important to wait for the girl to start texting sexual things first. This sht is out of control
 
they do this all the time I also saw it often on hellotalk. they were reposting white users and claiming they were cheating on their girlfriend and texting women on HT which cannot even be verified
Yeah every time I open 小红书 stuff like this shows up "sisters, this American boy on HT sent me this message. Does this mean he wants me to be his girlfriend?". Trying to educate myself on the dating etiquette there.
The algorithm instantly adapts to what you look at so my entire feed is blackpilled tbh.
He’s a well known face in China for sure
I guess being one of the first Bumble profiles you see when you set your location to Shanghai isn't nothing - def bound to get a lot of people recognizing the screenshot at least.
And then the Barry Lyndon-esque socialite game at all the clubs where he assumes a new identity at will takes it to the next level.
Just gigolomaxx with Cantonese MILFs that like to buy you Loro Piana etc. so you can LARP as old money theory. Just keep leveling up gradually
 
Yeah every time I open 小红书 stuff like this shows up "sisters, this American boy on HT sent me this message. Does this mean he wants me to be his girlfriend?". Trying to educate myself on the dating etiquette there.
The algorithm instantly adapts to what you look at so my entire feed is blackpilled tbh.

I guess being one of the first Bumble profiles you see when you set your location to Shanghai isn't nothing - def bound to get a lot of people recognizing the screenshot at least.
And then the Barry Lyndon-esque socialite game at all the clubs where he assumes a new identity at will takes it to the next level.
Just gigolomaxx with Cantonese MILFs that like to buy you Loro Piana etc. so you can LARP as old money theory. Just keep leveling up gradually
yeah but in the end every lie will get exposed. I wonder why he thought he would get away with it, there must be something severely wrong in his head, feeling the need to larp on incel forums to get attention. how come, that you exposed him? did you already know it was all larp before and just try to find proof?
 
Yeah every time I open 小红书 stuff like this shows up "sisters, this American boy on HT sent me this message. Does this mean he wants me to be his girlfriend?". Trying to educate myself on the dating etiquette there.
The algorithm instantly adapts to what you look at so my entire feed is blackpilled tbh.

I guess being one of the first Bumble profiles you see when you set your location to Shanghai isn't nothing - def bound to get a lot of people recognizing the screenshot at least.
And then the Barry Lyndon-esque socialite game at all the clubs where he assumes a new identity at will takes it to the next level.
Just gigolomaxx with Cantonese MILFs that like to buy you Loro Piana etc. so you can LARP as old money theory. Just keep leveling up gradually
I think his high Indian libido might have helped him a lot.
 
Yeah every time I open 小红书 stuff like this shows up "sisters, this American boy on HT sent me this message. Does this mean he wants me to be his girlfriend?". Trying to educate myself on the dating etiquette there.
The algorithm instantly adapts to what you look at so my entire feed is blackpilled tbh.
Now I have to register for this trash app to see if I'm on there.
 
Now I have to register for this trash app to see if I'm on there.
It's not like they're remotely NT half the time anyways though. Including in the typical "listen to what they do, not what they say" kinda way where they're mainly trying to save face. More of a playful thing where they're honestly just asking questions. I don't think you'd get publicly shamed unless you did something obviously fucked up.
Comments usually seem to logically figure out who's right or wrong in a situation; triumph of reason in the high IQ middle kingdom like usual
 
The real mystery was how he was finding success outside of China where they’re used to seeing foreign faces, especially Indians (Korea, japan)
 
The real mystery was how he was finding success outside of China where they’re used to seeing foreign faces, especially Indians (Korea, japan)
I mean he did not even look bad. I would have believed him if he just showed me the picture on the right and said he was italian or spanish. and the picture is for a news platform so not even filtermaxxed probably
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