Is @marauder 's chadfish strategy viable?

[explorer7878]

his first picture is him but heavily morphed into a high htn/low chadlite. his second picture is his real face which looks like a low mtn. The third picture shows his bumble results (many likes and mtbs texting him) that he got after a 2 hour layover in Hongkong. the last picture shows the chad treatment he got on bumble. Is this strategy viable? I would not morph my face but maybe anglefraud on bumble to get higher results. and maybe remove my height (175 cm) from my profile which would also be a fraud. shall I do it?

 

[Orientalist]

Clearly it's most likely better than nothing from a pure numbers perspective ngl. I also think angle frauding barely counts as frauding tbh. IRL things balance out and you don't notice flaws as easily, especially compared to pictures of yourself. The difference just needs to not be massive

Chinese girls hit my line because they think I look like Taylor Swift so something tells me you can get away with a lot

 

[14passport]

his first picture is him but heavily morphed into a high htn/low chadlite. his second picture is his real face which looks like a low mtn. The third picture shows his bumble results (many likes and mtbs texting him) that he got after a 2 hour layover in Hongkong. the last picture shows the chad treatment he got on bumble. Is this strategy viable? I would not morph my face but maybe anglefraud on bumble to get higher results. and maybe remove my height (175 cm) from my profile which would also be a fraud. shall I do it?

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I don't know in Asian countries but in Europe if you chadfish as pic #1 and you show up as #2 or looking worse than that, most girls would leave the date as soon as they can
your profile should more or less show you as you are IRL, if there's big difference, a hot girl will leave

 

[Johan Liebert]

The irony is even his "real" picture is frauded as he's sucking his cheecks in and squinting. He might've done something for his skin color as well considering his obsession with race.

 

[cool]

his first picture is him but heavily morphed into a high htn/low chadlite. his second picture is his real face which looks like a low mtn. The third picture shows his bumble results (many likes and mtbs texting him) that he got after a 2 hour layover in Hongkong. the last picture shows the chad treatment he got on bumble. Is this strategy viable? I would not morph my face but maybe anglefraud on bumble to get higher results. and maybe remove my height (175 cm) from my profile which would also be a fraud. shall I do it?

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I think there’s a human phenomenon where frauding bleeds over to irl a bit, like if someone has really good pictures you might perceive them as better looking irl.

That being said there is a difference between using your best angles and lighting vs literally merging your face with a chad.

What marauder did undoubtedly caused every girl that met up with him to recognize he’s a catfish which is definitely too embarrassing and cringe in practice unless you’re a narcy jeet.

So overall, 100% use your best pics (especially your first pic on dating apps should be godtier) but don’t go full catfish unless your goal is farming validation by flexing on incel forums.

 

[Orientalist]

What marauder did undoubtedly caused every girl that met up with him to recognize he’s a catfish which is definitely too embarrassing and cringe in practice unless you’re a narcy jeet.

Most but probably not all. When I say "better than nothing from a numbers perspective" there was definitely 1 or 2 girls too retarded to know the difference due to not knowing what foreigners look like. The girls you don't meet the cut for, they prob wouldn't have swiped on you anyways if you used authentic pics. He probably says the catfish pic is when he was years younger or something if they ask.

Though I still very strongly doubt any form of catfishing is worth it in the grand scheme of things for actual IRL success besides farming IG followers or some shit. You're def cucking yourself if you upload trash pics, but surprising the girl and looking better irl can be beneficial for conversion. It's way better to meet up with girls you know you have a good chance with than having a million matches and going on dates with girls who think they're going to meet up with chad (and expect you to pay for both of the $25 drinks at the rooftop bar) no fucking point lol, waste of time for both of you

Even some genuine high PSL/mass appealmaxxed high ELO chads have this problem like Niko on .org with fucking thousands of matches rotting on dating apps but barely slay. But maybe that's just the West. From what I've gathered (and experienced) in non-brutal places like SEA, it should be like a 50:1 ratio or less of matches to actually fucking if you're decently nichemaxxed and have game

 

[Rance]

The app SNOW is good for these types of fine-grained facial adjustments

If you're not editing your photos you're not trying. But if you're editing them too much you're going to get burned... you need the plausible deniability of it being a "really good photo"

Litmus test: Hold your phone about 3 feet away from your face. You should not be able to differentiate between the original photo and the edited photo at this distance

 

[Orientalist]

The app SNOW is good for these types of fine-grained facial adjustments

If you're not editing your photos you're not trying. But if you're editing them too much you're going to get burned... you need the plausible deniability of it being a "really good photo"

Litmus test: Hold your phone about 3 feet away from your face. You should not be able to differentiate between the original photo and the edited photo at this distance

Yeah I've used this for professional photos/videos. Most of the options turn out very realistic-looking

They way I see it is there's an element of luck when it comes to taking "really good photos". Maybe your bedroom you're in everyday from which you take selfies and do video calls just has the perfect lighting for your facial features and whatnot - or maybe it's fucking terrible. Correcting things like that via editing pics to a plausible level that can and does exist IRL ≈ not necessarily distorting reality

 

[14passport]

choose good angles, edit pics, show a cool lifestyle, outfits, curate your bio... do everything you can to show your best self, as long as you look similar IRL

dont go too far cause you will match with a bunch of baddies but your IRL success will be extremely low if you can get even get any slays

 

[cool]

Most but probably not all. When I say "better than nothing from a numbers perspective" there was definitely 1 or 2 girls too retarded to know the difference due to not knowing what foreigners look like. The girls you don't meet the cut for, they prob wouldn't have swiped on you anyways if you used authentic pics. He probably says the catfish pic is when he was years younger or something if they ask.

Yes that’s true, because catfishing relies on cognitive biases, the effectiveness depends on the other persons perceptiveness and awareness, I’m sure girls in the absolute lowest bracket of this (never seen a foreigner or retarded) accepted marauders level of frauding.

surprising the girl and looking better irl can be beneficial for conversion.

Sounds good in theory, but because people are affected by biases to varying extents, even if you look better than photos irl, those shit photos still contribute to a negative perception that ultimately lowers your value. I think using your best frauded photos is always 100% the play because of this. It’s just important to not make the girl aware you’re a catfish, and ofc the threshold for that is much higher in Asia where frauding is so normalized.

 

[Orientalist]

I think there’s a human phenomenon where frauding bleeds over to irl a bit, like if someone has really good pictures you might perceive them as better looking irl.

Yeah I think you're right about this.
I think a similar thing goes on with celebrities and PSL figures. If you saw someone like Chico irl for a few seconds walking down the street, I don't know if you would think twice. Yet countless people think he's literally the best looking man of all time because everyone has seen him in his prime on runways, etc. (and due to a lengthy career there's bound to be a lot of top tier pics circulating around contributing to that perception)

 

[Rance]

Someone drop me a photo of an LTN-HTN and I'll show how I'd edit it in SNOW

 

[Orientalist]

Someone drop me a photo of an LTN and I'll show how I'd edit it in SNOW

 

[Rance]

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Lmao. Probably the best way to go tbh

 

[Orientalist]

Lmao. Probably the best way to go tbh

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Yeah that's pretty good, enough to where I honestly don't even know what you did besides the eyebrows, but it's definitely a solid idk free ~5% improvement

 

[Rance]

Yeah that's pretty good, enough to where I honestly don't even know what you did besides the eyebrows, but it's definitely a solid idk free ~5% improvement

Yeah that's the magic, no one would ever know.

Until you compare them side by side, or better yet, overlaid. Then you see it:

 

[Orientalist]

Meanwhile on 小红书

 

[Rance]

Meanwhile on 小红书
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Michael Jacksonmaxxed

 

[Orientalist]

Michael Jacksonmaxxed

Risottomaxxing only

 

[explorer7878]

Yeah that's the magic, no one would ever know.

Until you compare them side by side, or better yet, overlaid. Then you see it:

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thicker eyebrows look better