Belaruscel
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How many japanese wifus are actually fuckable and good looking without filters and plastic surgerys
Pained4ever
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tallfag fakecel. tho anything below 6'6 is still short
Rance
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Plastic surgery is not really prevalent among young people in Japan unlike in Korea or Taiwan. Middle-aged ladies get botox and fillers but that's about it.
6'6" would definitely be too tall in Japan
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no such thing as too tall
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At some point you start ogremaxxing, in Japan it's probably around 6'5" and in the West maybe 6'9". I wouldn't want it
In Japan they call people who are too tall "gorilla" especially if they're also wide, and it's not a compliment
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Any thoughts on Osaka btw? Do you moreso mean just stay in one city and Tokyo is kinda the de facto place to start, or is there a little more to it? It's kinda hella expensive to stay longer term and have a clubbing lifestyle (+ I'd probably drain my bank account buying weeb shit in Akihabara etc. tbh) whereas one could stay in Osaka for quite a lot longer. Ppl like @cool say it seems way better as a geomaxxing destination
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Only visited a few times. Dotonbori is the main hub and shares some similarities with Tokyo's Kabukicho and the surrounding Shinjuku districts. You also have Kita-Shinchi in Osaka which is a bit grimy but fun.
Osaka is a fine city and still very large on the global scale. It's about the size of Chicago. There's plenty to do and generally fewer foreigners which is a nice perk. It's a bit dirtier and lacks some of the charm that makes Tokyo special, but Osaka has its own culture going on that's there to appreciate.
However, I really don't think the cost of living that much lower than Tokyo. There's affordable areas in west Tokyo. Just search rents on a site like http://realestate.co.jp/
Japanese people love to drone on about how Kansai (Osaka region) people are "warmer" and "more open" but I don't really see it.
Loose tier list of Japan cities for geomaxxing NOT considering cost of living:
- S Tier: Tokyo > Osaka
- A Tier: Yokohama > Fukuoka > Sapporo
- B Tier:
- C Tier: Nagoya, Kobe, Kyoto
- D Tier: Hiroshima, Sendai
- F Tier: Everywhere else, seriously, don't bother living in Niigata or any other godforsaken medium-sized city
If you have the opportunity to take an extended vacation to Japan before moving, consider visiting both cities for at least a week. Then you'll be equipped to make a decision for yourself. However, if you're walking in blind I think you'd be making a mistake by not living in Tokyo.
The expats I know who live in other cities, after a while, all end up visiting Tokyo in their free time, getting dating app matches from Tokyo, and generally fantasizing about living here. But people who live in Tokyo never even think about other cities.
Again though, Osaka does the job and if you find a reason to live there (job/school/etc.) it is a great place to live.
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anki
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its not an incel forum i wouldnt fly across the world just to get laid
https://emojipedia.org/loudly-crying-face
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It's a very subjective question, a big japan nerd will find 80% fuckable. But on the other end a western chadlite guy that likes latinas may find only 10%
If you don't mind, I would love for you to post pictures of what you consider 7s and 8s Japanese women.
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who cares if she's good looking because she had surgeries?
Rance
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Here you go. I used screengrabs from the video I posted on the previous page. This way you can actually look at them from multiple angles and see how they look when they talk and move. I felt really dirty making this since I'm usually not a fan of picking people out and rating them. But I'll do it for my geomax homies. Wondering if you guys agree with my assessment.
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United States suburbs of a larger metropolitan area.
I thought I was somewhat autistic through high school but later realized I was just not a turbo normie, and possibly not well socialized as a child. I always landed in a weird spot between the chadlite sports normies and the social outcast kids. During lunch period I would literally go back and forth between the tables of the two groups. Was a little too weird for the turbo normies (thought I was gay for liking anime and non-turbo normie video games). Was a little too normie for the social outcasts (thought I was a douchebag for liking girls and parties). Like the latter group though I spent most of my time in the basement doing dumb shit which further hurt my social skills.
When I entered university with a fresh start I felt like more of a social normie since people's interests diversified and there was less of a monopoly on turbo normie hobbies like American football like top 40 hip hop. Dressed better and attended social functions which resulted in a positive feedback loop. If I never went to university I'd probably be in a dark place right now.
I always was and continue to be overly analytical and a bit edgy (hence why I post rambling essays on this forum) which may be a mildly autistic trait.
I have always done well with women particularly in 1-on-1 situations. The natural social grace just flows out. If I am non-NT it only shows through in platonic situations, usually large groups of guys. Alcohol fixes it.
Looks wise I'm somewhere between a 6 and 6.5 but I boost to an 8 in Japan. I follow this China life YouYuber named laowhy86 and I think I look a lot like him, but I'm not tall.
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the two 7s feel a lot more like 6s to me
friend of the 8, could be a 7
too many girls to rate, but i agree most of the others look to be 5s and 6s
their teeth are so weird, makes it harder to rate
friend of the 8, could be a 7
too many girls to rate, but i agree most of the others look to be 5s and 6s
their teeth are so weird, makes it harder to rate
Rance
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That's fair. The 7 on the left fits Japanese looks standards really well, many Japanese guys would rate her an 8. Looks a lot like a pop idol or JAV star. The 7 on the right is just my exact type.
The friend of the 8 has too long of a face or something for me, seems like a solid 6.
I never cared too much about the teeth. It's definitely something that typical Westerners care a lot more about. Girls with weird teeth are great candidates to bring back to the West with you because their SMV will drop (cynical but true).
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Yes, i'm sure japanese guys would give completely different ratings
and i probably would too if i lived there for a few months
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It makes me wonder if there's a way to "perceptionmaxx" by consuming media with certain types of women in it. Growing up I was always into white girls, probably because I was surrounded by them and seeing them in media. Around the time I came to Japan I started to prefer Asian women.
If I ask my American buddy what he thinks of an Asian girl he might say she's a 5, but I find her to be at least a 7. The reverse is also true, it takes a particularly attractive white girl for me to actually want her, but while I see her as a 6 she sees herself as an 8 (because all the white guys around her see her as an 8). Thus I can virtually never date any white women.
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what would be the point of that, to force yourself to like women you dont find attractive? lmao
i would say media is an obvious one, i didnt care about japanese/asian girls until i started to be more into anime, then i started researching japanese culture, chinese, you start looking at vlogs...
but that doesnt change the fact i see asian beauty through my western lens
i would guess as you start to know and understand a culture, adapt to it, you will also start liking the local girls closer to the local consensus
to me it makes a lot more sense to work on yourself and know what you like, find a girl that fits you
than going after girls that you dont even care about
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Seems kinda non NT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturation We need to keep memeing the Philippines as the mecca of geomaxxing
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these guys will never venture to the tier 2s of china
at most they’ll go look at pandas for a week in chengdu and larp that they’re in blade runner while in chongqing
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"Omg bro it looks like we're on the ground but it's actually the 22nd floor!!! China is so advanced bing chilling!!"
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shieet I dun never even hurd da flipeens before!
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lol these guys dont have the mental aptitude to even navigate china period.
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All these guys talk about going to Brazil and Flip but never actually end up going lol
First thank you so much for taking the time to make this. But will all due respect...NO WAY would I give these girls the ratings you gave them from 6 and onwards. I'm a SEA American guy and I will show you what I think should be 6-8s on my scale when it comes to Asian girls. Again, I mean no disrespect.
Asian girl ratings. I did this chart similar to you by snubbing some pics from the street interviews. I don't wanna sound like a douche but I think for an Asian girl to be in the 8 range, she probably has to have surgery or is usually a mix with white.
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bottom 7 girl should be replaced with top 8 girl
Pained4ever
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the chick all the way to the left is def not htb either
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This is very interesting. Here's my take on your picks:
The one that stood out is the bottom-right girl which I don't find attractive at all, but probably heavily affected by a makeup style I don't like. Her lips look really strange and there's something going on with the nose and eyes as well I can't pinpoint. Generally the shirt and hairstyle aren't doing her any favors either.
Your 6.5 and your top 7 look like a lot of Asian-American people I see, I think there's some southern Chinese phenotype in there.
Your bottom 7 girl is the only one on the list who would intimidate me a bit IRL and I would call truly beautiful.
It seems like you'd be really into half-girls especially perhaps half-Thai girls (luk khrueng ?). Whereas I think I have a strong preference for East Asian features.
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all of those girls would be considered hi so stacies in thailand lol
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besides the one all the way to the left
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referring to this tier list
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Yeah I agree with these ratings. But with the 7.5 I gotta say the thing about Japanese women which is a total failo in my eyes is that their eyes seem to be a fair bit less narrow, and monolids are less common, compared to say Koreans:
Something like this is ideal but go figure they like to kpopmaxx and get eyelid surgeries lol
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Is it normal for East Asians to have double eyelids?
Answer (1 of 10): About 40% of Japanese people and 30% of Korean people have double eyelids according to an anthropometric study from 1999. The Asian Upper Eyelid > About 40% of Japanese have a double eyelid crease. One of us (S. J.) collected upper eyelid crease data from young Koreans and fo...
Pained4ever
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oh im retarded my bad
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Huh I don't think I've ever heard someone say they prefer monolids. I'm mostly indifferent but prefer double eyelids. I do like smaller eyes though, just with the double lid.
Dope feedback. And yes, for me the Asian girls who looks the best to me are the good looking Hapa girls. I'm just way more in Asian girls with Euro features. I can see you that you really like the Asian-Asian features which I'm not all that crazy for.
Do you have some recommendations for Kabukicho? I've never considered it as a good area to go out, but I'm willing to give it a try if you can give some general suggestions for places to go to. (I don't mean prostitution, just bars or similar.)
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I'm going to write this with the assumption that you're new to Tokyo, which you may not be, so some of it may sound patronizing or not even apply to you.
Golden Gai
I always recommend that newbies start their night at Golden Gai. Not the hole-in-the-wall bars in the alleys -- although these are decent, quiet venues if you're walking around with a girl you find and don't know where else to go.
At the west entrance of Golden Gai there are several large karaoke bars, generally packed with foreigners. The most frequented is a Filipino-owned establishment called Champion. Go here and get some 500-yen drinks, talk with the people around you, sing some Western bangers, and form a group to hit the rest of Kabukicho. Some of these people may know where to go, others won't, but if you're traveling alone it's an easy way to make friends and have a great night. I have slept with some tourist girls from the karaoke bars. Japanese people come to these bars as well but they easily make up less than 20% of the customers.
At the west entrance of Golden Gai there are lots of African touts. Nice guys but don't follow them if you don't know what you're doing. You may find it interesting to chat with them and hear their stories. There is a building around the corner full of "foreigner-friendly" hostess bars (i.e., the girls speak English and are mostly Filipina or half-Filipina). This is where the African touts intend to take you. These girls bars are a FUN TIME but the issue is that you don't know which are legit and which are scammy, and I'm not willing to feed info on these establishments at the moment. If you make friends with the Kabukicho night creatures you'll be able to separate the wheat from the chaff. Girls bars are all-you-can-drink for 2000-4000 yen per hour with unlimited karaoke. I often go when I don't feel like picking up girls and just want to relax with my friends. It is general etiquette to buy one of the girls a drink but don't be pressured into buying bottles or anything crazy. Contrary to popular belief, many of these girls are totally willing to sleep with customers (sometimes paid, sometimes not) if you want to swing that way.
Kabukicho Proper (Bars)
Hit up a bar called Mon Cheri. It's near the police station next to a DJ bar called Tokyo Loose, which is on the corner. Mon Cheri is not on the corner but slightly east. Go down the stairs. It's a wonderful bar with some foreign bartenders but the clientele is 90% Japanese. The 10% of foreigners are seasoned expats. Girls here will eye you when you walk in the door and are eager to chat. You'll often also find mixed groups of Japanese people who might want to take you on one of their adventures, so it's an alternative starting point to Golden Gai. Drinks are cheap, everyone is interesting, and they'll let you play music on the stereo if you ask them.
I mentioned Tokyo Loose so I have to talk about it. It's on the corner, also underground. They advertise as a "club" but are basically a small DJ bar. This place never has anybody in it except for days with events, and especially so on weekdays. Sounds bad right? But think of it like a private party room. I always go to Loose when I get in a situation where I'm roaming around with a group of 5+ with nowhere else to go, particularly if I have a girl with me who's not quite ready to go home yet. Sit on one of the sofas and enjoy a hookah and some beers. I have closed many nights making out with a girl in a Tokyo Loose booth. The management are African, but a different type from the touts, very cool guys. They will keep the bar open as long as you're drinking, up until 10 AM or so.
Another bar similar to Mon Cheri is Bar 180 located on the east side near Higashi-Shinjuku. Very decent. Go down the stairs and pop your head in, leave if nobody's there, stay if it seems cool. A lot of hosts drink here and as a result you'll find mouthwash, makeup remover pads, and hairspray in the bathroom.
Decabar is a crazy experience. Lots of alternative types like gyaru girls. On the weekends there's a steep cover considering it's a DJ bar, 2000 yen. On the weekdays it's free entry. It's a really neat bar architecturally, three-dimensional, with some novel light fixtures like lasers and holograms. It's a definite move on a weekday; on a weekend only go in if it seems particularly lively.
Dhali Curry is across from Decabar. It's... a curry shop that serves alcohol... but go here at sunrise and you'll see there's more than meets the eye.
There are a number of other bars/DJ bars/underground clubs like Key Club, Casablanca, etc. but I would not recommend entering any of them unless you're with somebody who knows their way around Kabukicho. They are not dangerous per se but you'll find it uncomfortable when everyone else knows each other while you're just that Kabukicho newbie. Protip: if you're down with hostess bars, befriend the girls. They will likely take you to these places and show you a new world where the sunlight never shines.
Kabukicho Proper (Clubs)
WARP is the second best nightclub in the city only behind Atom in Shibuya. Located in front of Kabukicho tower. It has two floors, three dancefloors, three bars, and a nice smoking lounge area. The huge dancefloor on the first floor is what you'd expect, just EDM remixes of top 40 hits. The other first-floor dancefloor focuses on hip hop. The second-floor dancefloor is all about J-pop and rock, like anime music and shit. You have to climb a tight spiral staircase to ascend to the second floor. The girls you'll find on any of the three dancefloors are pretty much stereotypes of the music that plays there, giving you some variety to choose from. I particularly like WARP because while the giant EDM dancefloor can be fun, it is refreshing to move to a lower-pressure area of the club for a bit. If you go on a weekday the cover drops from 4000 yen all the way down to 800 yen. Either way you get one free drink.
Zero is a nightclub that's literally under Kabukicho tower. I don't know what they were thinking with this one. Nobody goes here unless there's an event. It's something to behold though, there are three floors connected by escalators. The club is too damn big for its own good, even more sprawling than WARP, forming a labryinth with creepily empty hallways. Only go here if there's an event. Credit only; no cash.
IP was a club that just closed. It was alright.
T2 is a brand new nightclub that's NOT in Kabukicho but just outside, in Nishi-Shinjuku. You can walk there from the tower in like five minutes though. I have not been here but heard good things. The hype is still burning, so check it out.
Perfect writeup, thanks. I'm not new to Tokyo but I feel so out of my element whenever I go to Kabukicho that you can be as patronizing as you want and I'll still appreciate it.
I guess the real solution, like you say, is to find people who know their way around the area and are familiar with the places there -- I'll definitely work on that.
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