How do you meet white women in your early 30s if you don't have an office job?

Stellar_Travels said:
Does wanting a girl like that means you have high standards?

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if you are an average guy yes
even if she wasn't famous, she takes a lot of care of herself and has decent genetics
 
Rance said:
Mid 20s, do salsa classes sound like something older people would do? Because I've seen a lot of people my age go do stuff like this
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well yea salsa is a bit in the older range as @albeeGE pointed out, but there are other similar dances that have younger people.

but that's not why i asked. i just asked to know about your life experience in general because you said things like this:
Rance said:
If you're even at the point where you're considering joining salsa classes and shit to meet women, you need to relocate. Milquetoast daytime hobbies are not going to get you measurable results.
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because if this came from an 18yo for example it couldn't really be taken seriously because you wouldn't have had enough time to try.
 
If nothing works for you, and you wont geomax, why dont you work on self improving?

unless you got fucked up genetics you can heavily ascend

i know it's not a popular option here because it's easier to complain but objectively getting jacked, good grooming and fashion will help you a lot
 
14passport said:
If nothing works for you, and you wont geomax, why dont you work on self improving?

unless you got fucked up genetics you can heavily ascend

i know it's not a popular option here because it's easier to complain but objectively getting jacked, good grooming and fashion will help you a lot
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this is what I never liked about these spaces, dudes who internalize the BP but dont want to enact any solutions, and the ones that don't want to enact solutions but dont even pursue p4p or anything else
 
Maybe try one of the Catholic Balkan countries (also ones with Catholic minorities) for a more traditional girl that’s still somewhat similar to your nationality/ethnicity, like Albanian…
 
BeardedUnicorn said:
real "trad" girls arent going to hitch off with some foreigner lol
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That’s why I suggested those countries in the first place; if he learned the local language well he could theoretically LARP as a successful native lol
 
EEmaxxer said:
Eggzacklee...because picking a foreigner over your own is almost the opposite of what would be considered "traditional". Traditional implies you stick with your kind.
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Really depends how "traditional" you mean. I guess if you want some farm girl from a rural mountain village you're not going to have much luck. But "traditional" women do date foreigners, just like they have dated out-of-group throughout history.
 
Rance said:
Really depends how "traditional" you mean. I guess if you want some farm girl from a rural mountain village you're not going to have much luck. But "traditional" women do date foreigners, just like they have dated out-of-group throughout history.
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How tall are you? And as a white guy how special are you in Japan?

I feel like foreigners would be common there now, especially in Tokyo

The thing is, in the west I'm really average and nothing special, if I got a gf I'd just get cheated on
but I'm guessing race and height (5'11"-6'0") would make me stand out in Japan.. but is it enough?
Also can you get a virgin 16-18 yo gf in your mid 20s there?
 
niggerjewrapist5879 said:
How tall are you? And as a white guy how special are you in Japan?

I feel like foreigners would be common there now, especially in Tokyo

The thing is, in the west I'm really average and nothing special, if I got a gf I'd just get cheated on
but I'm guessing race and height (5'11"-6'0") would make me stand out in Japan.. but is it enough?
Also can you get a virgin 16-18 yo gf in your mid 20s there?
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I'm 5'9" and feel neither tall nor short in Japan, maybe a little on the tall side. Then again I never felt short in the U.S. either, but maybe that's because I didn't really do online dating. 5'11"-6'0" is more than enough and you'll know it to be true when people start calling you tall when they first meet you.

Japan has a fuck ton of white tourists but relatively few white expats, and as I said in another thread, tourists are often excluded from the dating pool because they don't speak the language or understand the little social customs.

Some urban areas like Shibuya in Tokyo have way more white foreigners. Other cities like Osaka have few. There's advantages and disadvantages to both and it doesn't really matter. The advantage would be that areas with more white foreigners attract women who are particularly interested in them, the disadvantage being that you're "competing" with more white foreigners. It all evens out. And no, not all women interested in white foreigners are highly internationalized, in fact many I've met had never even sat down and spoken with a foreigner 1-on-1 before.

Virgin 16-18 year old gf? It happens. A lot is down to luck. I slept with a virgin 18 year old but it was a matter of just accidentally catching her on her first night out in the city for a friend's birthday party. 16-17 is a tough sell because they are very unlikely to be out meeting people. The only 16-17 year olds I've met have been real creatures of the night, like abandoned by their parents and hanging out with other disenfranchised kids (you see this a lot in Kabukicho). 18 and especially 19-20 year olds are all over the place.
 
Rance said:
I'm 5'9" and feel neither tall nor short in Japan, maybe a little on the tall side. Then again I never felt short in the U.S. either, but maybe that's because I didn't really do online dating. 5'11"-6'0" is more than enough and you'll know it to be true when people start calling you tall when they first meet you.

Japan has a fuck ton of white tourists but relatively few white expats, and as I said in another thread, tourists are often excluded from the dating pool because they don't speak the language or understand the little social customs.

Some urban areas like Shibuya in Tokyo have way more white foreigners. Other cities like Osaka have few. There's advantages and disadvantages to both and it doesn't really matter. The advantage would be that areas with more white foreigners attract women who are particularly interested in them, the disadvantage being that you're "competing" with more white foreigners. It all evens out. And no, not all women interested in white foreigners are highly internationalized, in fact many I've met had never even sat down and spoken with a foreigner 1-on-1 before.

Virgin 16-18 year old gf? It happens. A lot is down to luck. I slept with a virgin 18 year old but it was a matter of just accidentally catching her on her first night out in the city for a friend's birthday party. 16-17 is a tough sell because they are very unlikely to be out meeting people. The only 16-17 year olds I've met have been real creatures of the night, like abandoned by their parents and hanging out with other disenfranchised kids (you see this a lot in Kabukicho). 18 and especially 19-20 year olds are all over the place.
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Japan sounds pretty good then
How's the standard for day to day life? What about expenses?
I hear Tokyo is crazy expensive for living at least
 
niggerjewrapist5879 said:
Japan sounds pretty good then
How's the standard for day to day life? What about expenses?
I hear Tokyo is crazy expensive for living at least
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If you are American the exchange rate is floating around 150 yen to the dollar. Cost of living across the board in Tokyo is about 110-120 yen to the dollar. Therefore you'll have about $1.30 of spending power in Japan for every $1.00 of spending power you'd have in the U.S.

The exception would be rents and real estate which are considerably cheaper in Japan due to its unique approach to real estate (property does not appreciate and is frequently rebuilt). You can get a modern, nice 35 square meter apartment in a central Tokyo highrise (say, 10th to 15th floor) for about 250,000 yen a month ($1600 USD). If you opt to go for a go for an アパート instead (non-highrise, on the ground, looks like this) the same apartment would be about 180,000 yen ($1200 USD). If you're willing to go smaller and older you can find apartments very cheap down to about 60,000 yen ($400 USD).

Some products are more expensive than the $1.30/$1.00 figure, like clothing and anything imported. Other products are cheaper like food and drink, both groceries and eating out.

Do note that all of this will only work in your favor if you're using savings from home. If you work in Japan you'll make about 100 yen for every $1.00 USD you would have made at home. You will notice that this is less than the 110-120 yen per $1.00 USD cost of living figure. Therefore if you work in Japan long term you will end up poorer.
 
niggerjewrapist5879 said:
Japan sounds pretty good then
How's the standard for day to day life? What about expenses?
I hear Tokyo is crazy expensive for living at least
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Japan is not that expensive anymore, it's actually quite cheap for being a world class country
of course if you compare it to SEA it's gonna be a lot more expensive for comparable quality, but you can live in Tokyo cheaply with longterm lease
 
14passport said:
Japan is not that expensive anymore, it's actually quite cheap for being a world class country
of course if you compare it to SEA it's gonna be a lot more expensive for comparable quality, but you can live in Tokyo cheaply with longterm lease
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What site to use for shorter term accomodation though? AirBnB, Booking.com, etc. are like $60/day minimum unless you literally want to live in the pod and even then it's a lot
 
Orientalist said:
What site to use for shorter term accomodation though? AirBnB, Booking.com, etc. are like $60/day minimum unless you literally want to live in the pod and even then it's a lot
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Define shorter term. https://realestate.co.jp/en is fine for short-term stays if you check the "Short Term" filter when searching. I'd imagine they would want you to stay for at least 3 weeks or so though. AirBnB and Booking.com are probably your best options for shorter than that, and $50-$60 a day sounds about right.

If you are really staying for such a short time though I would recommend hopping hotels like APA and Livemax since you could go between multiple locations.
 
Rance said:
Define shorter term. https://realestate.co.jp/en is fine for short-term stays if you check the "Short Term" filter when searching. I'd imagine they would want you to stay for at least 3 weeks or so though. AirBnB and Booking.com are probably your best options for shorter than that, and $50-$60 a day sounds about right.

If you are really staying for such a short time though I would recommend hopping hotels like APA and Livemax since you could go between multiple locations.
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Short term being 2-3 weeks or less. Month-by-month and yeah one would start looking on apartment sites
 
Orientalist said:
What site to use for shorter term accomodation though? AirBnB, Booking.com, etc. are like $60/day minimum unless you literally want to live in the pod and even then it's a lot
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I dont think Japan is good value for shorter term
 
Xavist said:
Yeah, he should IGmaxx hard with expensive shit in exotic locations lol
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If i had a million a year i would do something like this.
Women dont want to work. No matter their career or their iq.
They are all lazy retards deep down ready to throw it away for the right amount of easy money.
Buy a bugatti and a boat. Monacomaxx.
 
levotiroxin said:
If i had a million a year i would do something like this.
Women dont want to work. No matter their career or their iq.
They are all lazy retards deep down ready to throw it away for the right amount of easy money.
Buy a bugatti and a boat. Monacomaxx.
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I think similarly but nix the exotic locations and expensive condo shit.

I'd move to China and get a comfortable, spacious apartment. Then find one of those (many) girls who just doesn't want to work and would rather take care of the home. Kick back with an easy job and lots of free time. Save a ton of money and retire early. No lambo, just a cool upper-end sedan or something.

I've always just felt nauseated by the exotic location lifestyle. Places like Monaco/Dubai/Miami do not feel happy to me. Would rather kick it in grungier places with cheap beer and motorcycles.
 
Rance said:
I think similarly but nix the exotic locations and expensive condo shit.

I'd move to China and get a comfortable, spacious apartment. Then find one of those (many) girls who just doesn't want to work and would rather take care of the home. Kick back with an easy job and lots of free time. Save a ton of money and retire early. No lambo, just a cool upper-end sedan or something.

I've always just felt nauseated by the exotic location lifestyle. Places like Monaco/Dubai/Miami do not feel happy to me. Would rather kick it in grungier places with cheap beer and motorcycles.
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drop the beer

that’s a drink for slaves
 
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