Does day game work in Japan/China/South Korea?

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I know many of you are opposed to the idea of day game and it can certainly be painful and cringe, but it is really something I like, because it feels more like a challenge instead of just getting a few dozen matches on dating app from women, I know are already attracted to me. Do you think this can work with east asian women or is it considered very weird there and will not lead to any results?
 
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Yes, Japan is one of the strongest day game locations in the world partially due to its cultural acceptableness as nanpa. Nobody watching you will really care. Might look at you for a moment but will then totally forget. The women themselves are accustomed to it and will love that you're approaching them. Not all will, but that's part of the game.

There is no place like Tokyo in the world, with such a large density of attractive girls. Beyond just the street, it's useful to try in cafes, stations, stores, etc.

Do you have any specific questions about day game in Japan? Could go on for days. I've had a ridiculous amount of success with it.
 
I know many of you are opposed to the idea of day game and it can certainly be painful and cringe, but it is really something I like, because it feels more like a challenge instead of just getting a few dozen matches on dating app from women, I know are already attracted to me. Do you think this can work with east asian women or is it considered very weird there and will not lead to any results?
Yes of course, game works everywhere, although it might be different depending on the culture. And the obvious still applies, you need to be somewhat attractive and dont be awkward.
 
@Rance: can you tell an anecdote of a successful encounter?
Sure, I'll tell a story of a memorable day I had last spring.

I approached two hot kyabajo in Kabukicho, both attractive but one really looked amazing. I could hook them and realized that I had an amazing vibe with the cuter one. She seemed to find me funny and as we talked I found out she seemed to be interested in baseball and the United States a bit (although not like SUPER into it) -- which was a big surprise since I somehow didn’t expect a kyaba to have interest in such things. She only spoke Japanese but seemed to enjoy talking to a foreigner who speaks Japanese. I tried to pull both girls to a yakiniku izakaya open until late, but they said they already have a place where they want to go to. So I told them I wanted to have some drinks there with them and they seemed to be cool with that.

I asked them if the place they’re going to was a host club and they said no, it’s like a casual bar but the bartenders are hosts or ex-hosts. I checked before entering and it did not seem super expensive/scammy so I went there with them. I would later discover that this place is Bar 180, one of the bars I recommended in my Kabukicho post.

I predictably read the initial "wtf is this gaijin doing here with these two kyabajo" vibe from the host guys at that bar, but I could blast that away very quickly by being super friendly with them, joking around and making everyone laugh and have a good time. I was sitting next to the girl I was targeting, started getting a bit physical and more flirty with her.

She told me she had this American friend and showed me a picture. I was just blabbering away and said “Yeah, tell him to come here right now and have a drink with us”... kind of as a joke but maybe somewhere in the back of my mind that he could be a wingman. The moment I said it I had this strange feeling that I had done something stupid. To my huge surprise she called the guy and it seemed like he literally popped into the bar within the next 10 minutes.

This guy was a bit younger than me, and while I think I had better Japanese overall, he could actually speak Kansai-ben (a dialect) after living in Osaka for more than a year. Which is funny because I had learned some lines in Osaka-ben from my ex-gf, mainly because I think it’s fun and it sounds very cute when girls speak it.

So it turns out that this American dude has either fucked my target girl before or he has dated her once and tried to… I somehow couldn’t figure out which one. He seemed to be a bit irritated by my presence (not mad though), and it seemed to me like he was gonna douche/AMOG me. So at this point the whole situation seemed a bit tense, even surreal but I knew my only way was to be super positive and friendly with my fellow American, the hosts, and the girls.

Somehow my target girl was getting the vibe and even on a sub-level sensed that I was kind of holding the situation together and making everyone relaxed. I forgot to mention that the other American dude was pretty drunk and he kind of started to escalate on my target girl in front of everyone but she pushed him away and it seemed like she regretted to have called him. While being friendly to everyone, I made it very clear that I would not disappear while it was getting to be early morning.

At some point the miracle happened and this dude told me in English that today was his birthday and he didn’t want to handle this shit anymore. He promptly disappeared while I wasn't looking. I think he didn’t even say goodbye to the girls but tried to call my target girl later.

After he was gone, my target girl started to kind of flirt with one of the hosts/bartenders, holding hands and doing some pillow talk with him. However, I had befriended that guy VERY well, and it seemed like he was even winging for me, because while she was getting more and more drunk, while we were both talking to the host, me and the girl started eye-fucking each other. At some point the host guy switched to her friend and I was talking to my girl again and increasing physicality a bit but very casually and we established a very good connection and flirty vibe.

We finally all three left the bar late at night. Her friend said she was going to wait for a bus. Normally I would have thought it would have been better to see the friend off but for some reason me and my girl jumped into a taxi in front of her and waved her goodbye. When I got in the taxi with her she said she was going home -- she seemed to live a bit further away. I said: okay I’m coming with you. Normally that might be a very dumb move, but she replied “we can't, my sister is also there."

This was like a huge sign of compliance for me, she basically pointed out an obstacle for me to solve. I said something like “okay than we have to go somewhere else to have a drink” and gave the taxi driver directions to my hotel. She was pretty drunk at that point but not wasted… I increased physicality in the taxi, almost no resistance when getting out, made out in the elevator and we ended up in my room.

The whole pull seemed somehow almost impossible to me at every stage, yet I had a very strong inner voice telling me whatever happens you will make this happen. Was one of the most memorable experiences of the entire year.
 
Sure, I'll tell a story of a memorable day I had last spring.

I approached two hot kyabajo in Kabukicho, both attractive but one really looked amazing. I could hook them and realized that I had an amazing vibe with the cuter one. She seemed to find me funny and as we talked I found out she seemed to be interested in baseball and the United States a bit (although not like SUPER into it) -- which was a big surprise since I somehow didn’t expect a kyaba to have interest in such things. She only spoke Japanese but seemed to enjoy talking to a foreigner who speaks Japanese. I tried to pull both girls to a yakiniku izakaya open until late, but they said they already have a place where they want to go to. So I told them I wanted to have some drinks there with them and they seemed to be cool with that.

I asked them if the place they’re going to was a host club and they said no, it’s like a casual bar but the bartenders are hosts or ex-hosts. I checked before entering and it did not seem super expensive/scammy so I went there with them. I would later discover that this place is Bar 180, one of the bars I recommended in my Kabukicho post.

I predictably read the initial "wtf is this gaijin doing here with these two kyabajo" vibe from the host guys at that bar, but I could blast that away very quickly by being super friendly with them, joking around and making everyone laugh and have a good time. I was sitting next to the girl I was targeting, started getting a bit physical and more flirty with her.

She told me she had this American friend and showed me a picture. I was just blabbering away and said “Yeah, tell him to come here right now and have a drink with us”... kind of as a joke but maybe somewhere in the back of my mind that he could be a wingman. The moment I said it I had this strange feeling that I had done something stupid. To my huge surprise she called the guy and it seemed like he literally popped into the bar within the next 10 minutes.

This guy was a bit younger than me, and while I think I had better Japanese overall, he could actually speak Kansai-ben (a dialect) after living in Osaka for more than a year. Which is funny because I had learned some lines in Osaka-ben from my ex-gf, mainly because I think it’s fun and it sounds very cute when girls speak it.

So it turns out that this American dude has either fucked my target girl before or he has dated her once and tried to… I somehow couldn’t figure out which one. He seemed to be a bit irritated by my presence (not mad though), and it seemed to me like he was gonna douche/AMOG me. So at this point the whole situation seemed a bit tense, even surreal but I knew my only way was to be super positive and friendly with my fellow American, the hosts, and the girls.

Somehow my target girl was getting the vibe and even on a sub-level sensed that I was kind of holding the situation together and making everyone relaxed. I forgot to mention that the other American dude was pretty drunk and he kind of started to escalate on my target girl in front of everyone but she pushed him away and it seemed like she regretted to have called him. While being friendly to everyone, I made it very clear that I would not disappear while it was getting to be early morning.

At some point the miracle happened and this dude told me in English that today was his birthday and he didn’t want to handle this shit anymore. He promptly disappeared while I wasn't looking. I think he didn’t even say goodbye to the girls but tried to call my target girl later.

After he was gone, my target girl started to kind of flirt with one of the hosts/bartenders, holding hands and doing some pillow talk with him. However, I had befriended that guy VERY well, and it seemed like he was even winging for me, because while she was getting more and more drunk, while we were both talking to the host, me and the girl started eye-fucking each other. At some point the host guy switched to her friend and I was talking to my girl again and increasing physicality a bit but very casually and we established a very good connection and flirty vibe.

We finally all three left the bar late at night. Her friend said she was going to wait for a bus. Normally I would have thought it would have been better to see the friend off but for some reason me and my girl jumped into a taxi in front of her and waved her goodbye. When I got in the taxi with her she said she was going home -- she seemed to live a bit further away. I said: okay I’m coming with you. Normally that might be a very dumb move, but she replied “we can't, my sister is also there."

This was like a huge sign of compliance for me, she basically pointed out an obstacle for me to solve. I said something like “okay than we have to go somewhere else to have a drink” and gave the taxi driver directions to my hotel. She was pretty drunk at that point but not wasted… I increased physicality in the taxi, almost no resistance when getting out, made out in the elevator and we ended up in my room.

The whole pull seemed somehow almost impossible to me at every stage, yet I had a very strong inner voice telling me whatever happens you will make this happen. Was one of the most memorable experiences of the entire year.
wish I was this nt
 
wish I was this nt
You have no idea how many embarrassing and socially retarded situations I've been through in the past. I wasn't always like this but slowly developed into an NT-presenting person over time. All you can do is have as many highly-social interactions as possible and you will gradually become graceful. In fact, when I go long periods of time without socializing I revert into my "natural form" of being awkward, nervous, and weird. Since I've been in the U.S. for a few months living with my parents I've noticed this happening to me now.

This is with the blackpill caveat that you should looksmaxx first. If you go down the redpill PUA hole without some degree of looks it will leave you jaded and hurt
 
I know many of you are opposed to the idea of day game and it can certainly be painful and cringe, but it is really something I like, because it feels more like a challenge instead of just getting a few dozen matches on dating app from women, I know are already attracted to me. Do you think this can work with east asian women or is it considered very weird there and will not lead to any results?
does in indo

took me exactly 15 seconds to get this girl to agree to go to dinner with me

thin waist big tits, and nice ass

Simple as. She was standing with her friend at the checkout counter. I said "want a donut" she said "no makasih" and i said "okay then can i have your whatsapp" she laughed with her friend and said okay. I gave her my QR if she doens't message me she's not interested.

3 minutes after i left store, message, first thing i said was "we should get dinner"
seh says "yes message me anytime"

done (notice im not a pussy and put the girls photos in here, unlike some posters here who are complete fags) I dont' ask for DMs cause im not an attention whore

I might wait one more day. then message her.
 

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Sure, I'll tell a story of a memorable day I had last spring.

I approached two hot kyabajo in Kabukicho, both attractive but one really looked amazing. I could hook them and realized that I had an amazing vibe with the cuter one. She seemed to find me funny and as we talked I found out she seemed to be interested in baseball and the United States a bit (although not like SUPER into it) -- which was a big surprise since I somehow didn’t expect a kyaba to have interest in such things. She only spoke Japanese but seemed to enjoy talking to a foreigner who speaks Japanese. I tried to pull both girls to a yakiniku izakaya open until late, but they said they already have a place where they want to go to. So I told them I wanted to have some drinks there with them and they seemed to be cool with that.

I asked them if the place they’re going to was a host club and they said no, it’s like a casual bar but the bartenders are hosts or ex-hosts. I checked before entering and it did not seem super expensive/scammy so I went there with them. I would later discover that this place is Bar 180, one of the bars I recommended in my Kabukicho post.

I predictably read the initial "wtf is this gaijin doing here with these two kyabajo" vibe from the host guys at that bar, but I could blast that away very quickly by being super friendly with them, joking around and making everyone laugh and have a good time. I was sitting next to the girl I was targeting, started getting a bit physical and more flirty with her.

She told me she had this American friend and showed me a picture. I was just blabbering away and said “Yeah, tell him to come here right now and have a drink with us”... kind of as a joke but maybe somewhere in the back of my mind that he could be a wingman. The moment I said it I had this strange feeling that I had done something stupid. To my huge surprise she called the guy and it seemed like he literally popped into the bar within the next 10 minutes.

This guy was a bit younger than me, and while I think I had better Japanese overall, he could actually speak Kansai-ben (a dialect) after living in Osaka for more than a year. Which is funny because I had learned some lines in Osaka-ben from my ex-gf, mainly because I think it’s fun and it sounds very cute when girls speak it.

So it turns out that this American dude has either fucked my target girl before or he has dated her once and tried to… I somehow couldn’t figure out which one. He seemed to be a bit irritated by my presence (not mad though), and it seemed to me like he was gonna douche/AMOG me. So at this point the whole situation seemed a bit tense, even surreal but I knew my only way was to be super positive and friendly with my fellow American, the hosts, and the girls.

Somehow my target girl was getting the vibe and even on a sub-level sensed that I was kind of holding the situation together and making everyone relaxed. I forgot to mention that the other American dude was pretty drunk and he kind of started to escalate on my target girl in front of everyone but she pushed him away and it seemed like she regretted to have called him. While being friendly to everyone, I made it very clear that I would not disappear while it was getting to be early morning.

At some point the miracle happened and this dude told me in English that today was his birthday and he didn’t want to handle this shit anymore. He promptly disappeared while I wasn't looking. I think he didn’t even say goodbye to the girls but tried to call my target girl later.

After he was gone, my target girl started to kind of flirt with one of the hosts/bartenders, holding hands and doing some pillow talk with him. However, I had befriended that guy VERY well, and it seemed like he was even winging for me, because while she was getting more and more drunk, while we were both talking to the host, me and the girl started eye-fucking each other. At some point the host guy switched to her friend and I was talking to my girl again and increasing physicality a bit but very casually and we established a very good connection and flirty vibe.

We finally all three left the bar late at night. Her friend said she was going to wait for a bus. Normally I would have thought it would have been better to see the friend off but for some reason me and my girl jumped into a taxi in front of her and waved her goodbye. When I got in the taxi with her she said she was going home -- she seemed to live a bit further away. I said: okay I’m coming with you. Normally that might be a very dumb move, but she replied “we can't, my sister is also there."

This was like a huge sign of compliance for me, she basically pointed out an obstacle for me to solve. I said something like “okay than we have to go somewhere else to have a drink” and gave the taxi driver directions to my hotel. She was pretty drunk at that point but not wasted… I increased physicality in the taxi, almost no resistance when getting out, made out in the elevator and we ended up in my room.

The whole pull seemed somehow almost impossible to me at every stage, yet I had a very strong inner voice telling me whatever happens you will make this happen. Was one of the most memorable experiences of the entire year.
JFC that sounds like such a headache. Was the pussy worth it in the end?
 
JFC that sounds like such a headache. Was the pussy worth it in the end?
Well, the whole experience was fun. Eating yakiniku, drinking at an interesting bar, meeting different kinds of people, and of course hanging out with cute girls. Where does the headache enter the equation?
 
Well, the whole experience was fun. Eating yakiniku, drinking at an interesting bar, meeting different kinds of people, and of course hanging out with cute girls. Where does the headache enter the equation?
Talking to women
 
Talking to women
May sound crazy but you may legitimately want to try out going to hostess clubs/kyabakura if you are uncomfortable talking to women in general. Their whole goal is to make you feel happy and wanted. You can talk as little or as much as you like, about weird or offbeat topics, they won't care. There is a reason kyabakura are so frequented by socially retarded salarymen and geezers. Not saying you're either of those, but yeah, it's ez mode for building conversation skills and learning to love it.
 
May sound crazy but you may legitimately want to try out going to hostess clubs/kyabakura if you are uncomfortable talking to women in general. Their whole goal is to make you feel happy and wanted. You can talk as little or as much as you like, about weird or offbeat topics, they won't care. There is a reason kyabakura are so frequented by socially retarded salarymen and geezers. Not saying you're either of those, but yeah, it's ez mode for building conversation skills and learning to love it.
Solid idea. What would they think of a solitary gaijin turning up to their club? I am 日本語上手, but i look like a school shooter.
 
Solid idea. What would they think of a solitary gaijin turning up to their club? I am 日本語上手, but i look like a school shooter.
You can go alone, no issues there. The doorman will ask you something like 日本語OK? and get you situated. You can explain that it's your first time visiting a kyabakura and that you're new to the whole thing. The girls will probably find it cute. I do recommend going with a friend if you can though because it's more enjoyable all around.

I remember one time I was on some deranged bender in Kabukicho and we decided to go to the same kyabakura 24 hours later with no sleep. The girl looked at me and was like... are you wearing the same clothes? We all laughed about it but it was a little embarrassing. My hair was all screwed up and my eyes probably bloodshot. As if I crawled out of a storm drain. Point is it doesn't matter too much how you look.

Do be mindful of the prices because kyabakura range from budget options (maybe ¥7000 for everything including drinks) all the way up to ultra-luxury kyabakura which can be over ¥100000. Also make sure you're entering a Japanese kyabakura and not an international girls bar, particularly if you're alone.
 
dunno if I agree with the kyabakura thing. those women will flatter you even if your jokes are bad. I think it worked for rance because he was already attractive and could talk to girls somewhat, so he just learned japanese and japanese society a bit through it. anyway whatever rance is doing is working seems to be working. I just dont know if it would work for some rando coming from .org
 
dunno if I agree with the kyabakura thing. those women will flatter you even if your jokes are bad. I think it worked for rance because he was already attractive and could talk to girls somewhat, so he just learned japanese and japanese society a bit through it. anyway whatever rance is doing is working seems to be working. I just dont know if it would work for some rando coming from .org
My thought process was the opposite. I think the kyabakura will be useful for hopeless newbies specifically because the girls will flatter you even if your jokes are bad. For someone who can't talk to women it's a low-pressure training wheels environment where there's little risk of feeling uncomfortable. A tutorial for the game where you can't lose. I personally didn't gain anything from kyabakura because I already knew how to talk to girls. I only went for some cheap fun.

Going to kyabakura is very unpopular in PUA circles and my advice would be shot down anywhere, because "don't pay for girls' attention bro" and "they don't actually like you". The way I see it though, if the person in question is absolutely not going to approach girls, the choice is between staying home and rotting OR at least getting yourself in front of women and conversing with them. The choice is obvious to me. For socially regressed hikikomori types the first goal should be getting used to the company of women, having fun conversations with them, and learning to read their vibes.

To be clear, if you are someone who is capable of talking to girls at bars and clubs, then hitting on kyaba girls while they're working is not going to be a productive use of your time.
 
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I dont really have a problem paying for girls. I have had sugar babies. and inherently living in southeast asia no matter what type of game you run there is an aspect of paying for it just because you already have so much money compared to them. korea and japan for that matter too, most guys end up paying for it in the sense that a womanlooking for a relationship will at least 60% evaluate you by how much money you have, and if you end up dating them it has very little to do with you doing the right things at the right moment. so the 'i dont pay for it' types that live in southeast asia are just stroking their egos

I just dont know if I agree that a kyaba is a good place to have training wheels. i feel like it could reinforce bad habits in their personality.

I would personally recommend phils or indo where at least it is low pressure, but if you fuck up it will still be immediately obvious
 
May sound crazy but you may legitimately want to try out going to hostess clubs/kyabakura if you are uncomfortable talking to women in general. Their whole goal is to make you feel happy and wanted. You can talk as little or as much as you like, about weird or offbeat topics, they won't care. There is a reason kyabakura are so frequented by socially retarded salarymen and geezers. Not saying you're either of those, but yeah, it's ez mode for building conversation skills and learning to love it.
i have been to two

they are cool. And you dont' feel awkward. It's actually pretty smart

social tards can feel cool. Everything you say is funny ect. And the japanese girls are VERY good at what they do. making you feel comfy and cool

it's like for those guys who you scored that one night you could do no wrong, everything you said and did was fucking magic. That kinda night. Well they make you feel like that.
 

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