Vent Above 6 foot and HTN or no girl will ever desire you

FoidGrabber said:
Honest, in fact I think if you don’t reach this, you maybe should stop trying to genuinely attract women. Huge time sink.
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for the most part i agree however whats htn in the west is like a chad in the east so....

but yea overall better to improve other stats about you like money, status, and looksmax as much as possible with minimal risk
 

I’ve started to really try and put myself in the women of todays shoes and once I did I saw it for what it is.

How does she really perceive a smart guy, who’s rich or whatever and normie looking while chads exist? Like what’s even the point. She should cheat on you actually…
 
AlexanderAcolyte said:
found the bluepiller
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This is not bluepill, this is called not being a socially isolated retarded autist. Do you have any friends? Literally the most successful guy I know with women is 5'11. If you just take celebrities, because you don't know anyone, Justin Bieber has had females thirsting over him since he was like 12 and he's 5'9 tops.
 
MerchantMariner said:
This is not bluepill, this is called not being a socially isolated retarded autist. Do you have any friends? Literally the most successful guy I know with women is 5'11. If you just take celebrities, because you don't know anyone, Justin Bieber has had females thirsting over him since he was like 12 and he's 5'9 tops.
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5’11 isn’t short.

Take the same 5’11 guy and make him 5’6.


The chances of that ever happening drop massively.


I understand where you are coming from though.


As it’s autistic af too think you need to be 90% percentile face and height to get desire from a chick.
 
masonfrancis said:
5’11 isn’t short.

Take the same 5’11 guy and make him 5’6.


The chances of that ever happening drop massively.


I understand where you are coming from though.


As it’s autistic af too think you need to be 90% percentile face and height to get desire from a chick.
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Yea I agree for the most part. The whole thing is to not be a negative outlier. If you are a negative outlier in any way-short, ugly, poor, etc. you are starting in a huge hole. But if you're at least relatively average in all respects women look at the overall package. Obviously looks matter the most because that lets you establish initial interest.
 
it doesn’t really matter what anyone thinks is the minimum, irrelevant topic.

Not to be debated.


Just do whatever you can to ascend.
 
MerchantMariner said:
How socially isolated and autistic do you have to be to believe this? Have you considered that women are unattracted to you not because you're short, but rather because you're fucking retarded?
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The point is they didn’t choose you, and there’s basically no detriment for a foid to cheat on you if a chad shows interest. The only thing that may stop her is she’s scared of getting caught, but seriously think? Why would you as a woman not just get the 1% chance of getting a chad kid at any moment where women aren’t financially controlled?
 
MerchantMariner said:
Yea I agree for the most part. The whole thing is to not be a negative outlier. If you are a negative outlier in any way-short, ugly, poor, etc. you are starting in a huge hole. But if you're at least relatively average in all respects women look at the overall package. Obviously looks matter the most because that lets you establish initial interest.
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This is going to be blackpilling to hear but I argue looks matter MORE long term than short term, this is why you can trick a travel slut in a bar to have sex as an LTN, but you can’t get one to have a one way poly relationship with you… only a chad can do that. Not saying this is the goal but it using extreme examples to show you what’s going on. Women always have this seeping thought of “am I getting a good deal” bouncing around in their head. The longer time she gets to pontificate the worse for you, especially if in all reality you don’t line up to the local market.

Exceptions to the rule exist and I would say this is especially prevalent in JBF
 
FoidGrabber said:
This is going to be blackpilling to hear but I argue looks matter MORE long term than short term, this is why you can trick a travel slut in a bar to have sex as an LTN, but you can’t get one to have a one way poly relationship with you… only a chad can do that. Not saying this is the goal but it using extreme examples to show you what’s going on. Women always have this seeping thought of “am I getting a good deal” bouncing around in their head. The longer time she gets to pontificate the worse for you, especially if in all reality you don’t line up to the local market.

Exceptions to the rule exist and I would say this is especially prevalent in JBF
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Nah short term slays is just pure sexual attraction and desire.

Long term is a mixture.

Think about it — personality, emotional connection, trust, lifestyle, values, even timing.

Looks will obvs get you in the door and make her want you, but they don’t keep things going long term.


If looks mattered more long term so much, to the point you need to be a HTN, you wouldn’t see average-looking guys in relationships everywhere.

Looks get you attention fast, but over time everything else either keeps her there or pushes her away.

And that whole “am I getting a good deal” thing isn’t just looks — it’s the full package.


Short term = looks carry hard.


Long term = looks matter, but they can get diluted…
 
masonfrancis said:
Nah short term slays is just pure sexual attraction and desire.

Long term is a mixture.

Think about it — personality, emotional connection, trust, lifestyle, values, even timing.

Looks will obvs get you in the door and make her want you, but they don’t keep things going long term.


If looks mattered more long term so much, to the point you need to be a HTN, you wouldn’t see average-looking guys in relationships everywhere.

Looks get you attention fast, but over time everything else either keeps her there or pushes her away.

And that whole “am I getting a good deal” thing isn’t just looks — it’s the full package.


Short term = looks carry hard.


Long term = looks matter, but they can get diluted…
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Betabux man… it’s all looks. Women are researched valuing looks more short term, but the thing these studies don’t account for which is be interested in is cheating potential, relationship stability, loyalty and so on…
 
But there’s 5’5” broke taxi drivers in the Philippines with 3 baby mamas spending their whole paycheck on Red Horse and gambling, sending no money back to the kids, and he’s getting genuine desire from all of them

But if you’re talking about the west only I 80% agree
 
myeyes said:
But there’s 5’5” broke taxi drivers in the Philippines with 3 baby mamas spending their whole paycheck on Red Horse and gambling, sending no money back to the kids, and he’s getting genuine desire from all of them

But if you’re talking about the west only I 80% agree
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They will cheat the minute a white chad arrives and shows interest.
 
myeyes said:
But there’s 5’5” broke taxi drivers in the Philippines with 3 baby mamas spending their whole paycheck on Red Horse and gambling, sending no money back to the kids, and he’s getting genuine desire from all of them

But if you’re talking about the west only I 80% agree
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they fear the hoe shaming that comes with being seen with a westerner, its a thing over there, especially the further out you are from cities
 
MerchantMariner said:
How socially isolated and autistic do you have to be to believe this? Have you considered that women are unattracted to you not because you're short, but rather because you're fucking retarded?
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pretty much this, taking everything to the extreme and geniuely believing it makes you look retarded in the real world

i understand its fun to troll and be autistic on the internet, but this kind of mentality will fuck up your chances with any high value woman, and even worse, you will never be happy because of the obsession with chads and the blackpill
 
masonfrancis said:
5’11 isn’t short.

Take the same 5’11 guy and make him 5’6.


The chances of that ever happening drop massively.


I understand where you are coming from though.


As it’s autistic af too think you need to be 90% percentile face and height to get desire from a chick.
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5'6 in the west is what, sub 5% of the population?

most guys are completely fine when it comes to height, and if they get 0 pussy, it's very unlikely it is because of that (unless they are truly short in that case its over in the west)
 
AlexanderAcolyte said:
i require a dna test, anywhere i can get one that doesn't sell off my data globally? i don't wanna be exposed to pay child support in the phillipines
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FoidGrabber said:
They will cheat the minute a white chad arrives and shows interest.
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A chad would cuck anyone.

Doesn’t matter if they are cl or htn, it will happen
 
masonfrancis said:
Just make sure you and your girl stay out of chads way and you’ll be fine!
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Impossible in age of internet. I think there’s this really uncomfortable truth that it’s actually the most advantaged position for any woman that’s smart to secretly have a burner phone texting every Chad she knows at all times and trying to get pregnant. There’s no loss…
 
She needs to falsely believe you are a chad… to truly admire you. There no place for us normies we are meant to betabux is the harsh reality we have no place in a woman’s life, if women were smart…. We are going to trick women and give them the objectively worst outcome..
 
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