Geomax The ugliest girls in China learn English

[Exutoire]

It is well known among the Chinese that the girls who seriously learn English are not the top echelon of women. These are often girls who can't get the caliber of men they're looking for in China and therefore Englishmaxx to find some high value foreigner. After all, they're not so different from us geomaxxers and they're often successful. You would be surprised at how many subhuman fat chinese girls I see with decent white men in China (it's basically almost 100% of the WMAF couples I see in China). What is important is that the best foggers in China rarely speak English.
If you speak Chinese, you also have access to a dating pool for young chinese women (18-25) that is multiplied by 10 at least. But more than that, these women are never interacting with foreigners (since they don't speak English) so you have even less competition in your segment if they're open to dating foreigners whereas English speaking chinese girls will typically already compare you with other white dudes and be able to know you're a low SMV subhuman.

What we can conclude from this observation is that learning Chinese is a HUGE helping hand if you want to date the women at the top of the pyramid in China.
So guys, play the long game. Learn Chinese, understand the culture, cater to their femalegaze and you will get incredible results. When you stay in China and do these things, your SMV compounds year by year. Depending on your age, this compounding may be even stronger than the age-induced SMV depreciation we all suffer from at some point.

 

[nomad]

in my experience the stacylite+ and sometimes even htb tend to be able to speak english well bcs high iq,travelmaxxed, more international lifestyle/upbringing and rich parents

 

[Autisticpleighboi]

True but the time investment to reach c1 Chinese is pretty insane. It’s about 3,500-4000 hours. So assuming you were studying it 1-2hrs a day it’d take 4-5yrs minimum to reach c1

 

[Exutoire]

in my experience the stacylite+ and sometimes even htb tend to be able to speak english well bcs high iq,travelmaxxed, more international lifestyle/upbringing and rich parents

I think there's plenty of stacylite+ chinese girls who don't speak a word of English, definitely many more than those who spoke English. I am not denying that the women you are talking about exist, they are just very few. For an average geomaxxer, having access to ALL the stacylite+ is a big difference compared to just being able to access the stacylite+ from rich families and the ones who are international models in the big chinese metropoles.

 

[AlexanderAcolyte]

True but the time investment to reach c1 Chinese is pretty insane. It’s about 3,500-4000 hours. So assuming you were studying it 1-2hrs a day it’d take 4-5yrs minimum to reach c1

what if we spammed dihexa, semax, and cerebrolysin

 

[Exutoire]

True but the time investment to reach c1 Chinese is pretty insane. It’s about 3,500-4000 hours. So assuming you were studying it 1-2hrs a day it’d take 4-5yrs minimum to reach c1

Indeed but I guess that's how life is. When things are difficult to achieve, they're also most valuable.
Moreover, i think you could reach that level much quicker with immersion in China. You also don't need C1 to start dating. A decent B1 will already do the trick with most girls

 

[AlexanderAcolyte]

It is well known among the Chinese that the girls who seriously learn English are not the top echelon of women. These are often girls who can't get the caliber of men they're looking for in China and therefore Englishmaxx to find some high value foreigner. After all, they're not so different from us geomaxxers and they're often successful. You would be surprised at how many subhuman fat chinese girls I see with decent white men in China (it's basically almost 100% of the WMAF couples I see in China). What is important is that the best foggers in China rarely speak English.
If you speak Chinese, you also have access to a dating pool for young chinese women (18-25) that is multiplied by 10 at least. But more than that, these women are never interacting with foreigners (since they don't speak English) so you have even less competition in your segment if they're open to dating foreigners whereas English speaking chinese girls will typically already compare you with other white dudes and be able to know you're a low SMV subhuman.

What we can conclude from this observation is that learning Chinese is a HUGE helping hand if you want to date the women at the top of the pyramid in China.
So guys, play the long game. Learn Chinese, understand the culture, cater to their femalegaze and you will get incredible results. When you stay in China and do these things, your SMV compounds year by year. Depending on your age, this compounding may be even stronger than the age-induced SMV depreciation we all suffer from at some point.

do chinese women age discriminate? what do u think is max age to genuinely slay 18 year olds?

 

[Exutoire]

do chinese women age discriminate? what do u think is max age to genuinely slay 18 year olds?

They do. But it's fine because what matters is not how old you are but rather how old you look. You can always lie about your real age.
Clean shave, makeup if you want, get a prettyboy style. You need to get rid of clear signs of ageing or overly masculine features (norwooding, beard).

I remember that some girls told me I looked fucking 30 when I first started using OLD in China. I was 10 years younger but just because I had a stubble they instantly assumed I was super old. They're not great at actually assessing how old a white person is.

 

[nomad]

I think there's plenty of stacylite+ chinese girls who don't speak a word of English, definitely many more than those who spoke English. I am not denying that the women you are talking about exist, they are just very few. For an average geomaxxer, having access to ALL the stacylite+ is a big difference compared to just being able to access the stacylite+ from rich families and the ones who are international models in the big chinese metropoles.

i totally agree that one misses out on like 90% of girls yes, its a fact sadly

 

[Autisticpleighboi]

Indeed but I guess that's how life is. When things are difficult to achieve, they're also most valuable.
Moreover, i think you could reach that level much quicker with immersion in China. You also don't need C1 to start dating. A decent B1 will already do the trick with most girls

True that’s why polyglotmaxxing when youngcel is crucial. But the ROI on learning tougher languages like these when 25+ oldcel is questionable

But do you really think B1 is enough? Cause I’m assuming if ur not white HTN+ and don’t moneymog the locals into oblivion then you’re probably gonna have to NT mog the locals to have access to the top tier girls which would most likely require C1. Could be wrong tho

 

[Autisticpleighboi]

what if we spammed dihexa, semax, and cerebrolysin

It’d still be around 3-3.5k hours assuming you’re young + IQ mogger + nootropicmaxxed

 

[AlexBrown84]

true but it’s not just girls in China. anybody that comes up to me speaking English im skeptical that they’re just selfish people trying to get something out of me

i was in Changsha one time when some chink guy came up to me talking about the usual for someone of my pheno and American, rap basketball etc etc

we add each other on WeChat and a few weeks later he’s wanting me to help him launder money out of china…

but it doesn’t just extend to china. any non English speaking country you go to and someone comes up to you wanting to start a conversation, be skeptical

when i was in afghanistan i stopped at a gas station and some supposed interpreter for the US army back in the days of ruling over them came up to me begging me to get him out of the country cuz the taliban hates him. added me on WhatsApp and still blows my phone up asking to get him out the country…

the world is full of these people who want to assimilate to the west in order to get a higher social standing. FUCK THEM

 

[Exutoire]

True that’s why polyglotmaxxing when youngcel is crucial. But the ROI on learning tougher languages like these when 25+ oldcel is questionable

But do you really think B1 is enough? Cause I’m assuming if ur not white HTN+ and don’t moneymog the locals into oblivion then you’re probably gonna have to NT mog the locals to have access to the top tier girls which would most likely require C1. Could be wrong tho

Agreed, the ROI past a certain age is not the same indeed.

B1 is already a good start. At this stage, you can say the basics, even if you make mistakes it's no problem because it will be seen as funny by a chinese girl, just like seeing an Asian girl speaking English can be. What this level does it that it can allow you to at least approach them and speak a little bit.
Of course more is better but it's a step in the good direction. I think that many Chinese girls are anxious about speaking to a foreigner, so if you come yourself, say a few words in a funny Chinese and express interest, it can work.

Obviously if you're looking for the top tier girls, having a better Chinese is always nice, but you can definitely start getting going with a B1 level assuming you're a confident person. I think that for top tier girls you don't really need to NT mog the locals (you also will never be able to), you just need to be a "pillar of all trades" where your looks are above the average Chinese guy, your money above average and your Chinese is not a major hindrance.

 

[Exutoire]

true but it’s not just girls in China. anybody that comes up to me speaking English im skeptical that they’re just selfish people trying to get something out of me

i was in Changsha one time when some chink guy came up to me talking about the usual for someone of my pheno and American, rap basketball etc etc

we add each other on WeChat and a few weeks later he’s wanting me to help him launder money out of china…

but it doesn’t just extend to china. any non English speaking country you go to and someone comes up to you wanting to start a conversation, be skeptical

when i was in afghanistan i stopped at a gas station and some supposed interpreter for the US army back in the days of ruling over them came up to me begging me to get him out of the country cuz the taliban hates him. added me on WhatsApp and still blows my phone up asking to get him out the country…

the world is full of these people who want to assimilate to the west in order to get a higher social standing. FUCK THEM

That's pretty funny. I rarely have interactions with Chinese who speak English but the few times I do it was the most awkward shit ever. One time, an old man came up to me on the subway flaming the government and glazing France and democracy, well clearly he's never been to France cause it's not working so well.
Another guy on the subway was talking about Hitler and French hood rappers, the biggest jester ever, it was so cringe because he didn't understand anything about History.

 

[14passport]

is that even true?
lots of middle and upper class women that learn english abroad and at international schools, and those chinese mog hard

obviously in a country like China, most women don't speak english
but i dont think its heavily skewed towards ugly ones

and yes many ugly ones will learn english because they cant succeed in local market
its very similar to kpop fans in the west being below average

 

[Exutoire]

is that even true?
lots of middle and upper class women that learn english abroad and at international schools, and those chinese mog hard

obviously in a country like China, most women don't speak english
but i dont think its heavily skewed towards ugly ones

and yes many ugly ones will learn english because they cant succeed in local market
its very similar to kpop fans in the west being below average

Yes it's true. You said yourself the ugly ones will learn English because they can't succeed.

The example you have with upper class women is just not addressing my point at all, I am talking about girls who are, key word "seriously", learning English, top 0.1% of Chinese girls who go abroad and go to international schools do not seriously learn English, they just happen to have an environment where they speak English.
My point was talking about the average mainland girls who are studying hard because they want to interact with foreigners.

 

[younglivinglife]

True but the time investment to reach c1 Chinese is pretty insane. It’s about 3,500-4000 hours. So assuming you were studying it 1-2hrs a day it’d take 4-5yrs minimum to reach c1

But the way it could help in your life is not just girls if it was just girls it wasn't worth it but it could actually unlock a whole new culture and many job opportunities in many niche.

 

[Xavist]

It is well known among the Chinese that the girls who seriously learn English are not the top echelon of women. These are often girls who can't get the caliber of men they're looking for in China and therefore Englishmaxx to find some high value foreigner. After all, they're not so different from us geomaxxers and they're often successful. You would be surprised at how many subhuman fat chinese girls I see with decent white men in China (it's basically almost 100% of the WMAF couples I see in China). What is important is that the best foggers in China rarely speak English.
If you speak Chinese, you also have access to a dating pool for young chinese women (18-25) that is multiplied by 10 at least. But more than that, these women are never interacting with foreigners (since they don't speak English) so you have even less competition in your segment if they're open to dating foreigners whereas English speaking chinese girls will typically already compare you with other white dudes and be able to know you're a low SMV subhuman.

What we can conclude from this observation is that learning Chinese is a HUGE helping hand if you want to date the women at the top of the pyramid in China.
So guys, play the long game. Learn Chinese, understand the culture, cater to their femalegaze and you will get incredible results. When you stay in China and do these things, your SMV compounds year by year. Depending on your age, this compounding may be even stronger than the age-induced SMV depreciation we all suffer from at some point.

So most or all of the WMAF couples you’ve seen in Asia so far are that bad?
How is that possible you think?
Just normies settling for the first girl that obsesses over them or is there something else at play?

 

[14passport]

Yes it's true. You said yourself the ugly ones will learn English because they can't succeed.

The example you have with upper class women is just not addressing my point at all, I am talking about girls who are, key word "seriously", learning English, top 0.1% of Chinese girls who go abroad and go to international schools do not seriously learn English, they just happen to have an environment where they speak English.
My point was talking about the average mainland girls who are studying hard because they want to interact with foreigners.

oh, that makes sense

i was more focused on knowing english, rather than learning/studying

 

[wannaimprove]

.So guys, play the long game. Learn Chinese, understand the culture, cater to their femalegaze and you will get incredible results. When you stay in China and do these things, your SMV compounds year by year. Depending on your age, this compounding may be even stronger than the age-induced SMV depreciation we all suffer from at some point.

good post

anything that surprised you after living there for a year when it comes to catering to their femalgaze ?

obviously beard is a good example - in the west is ok and in east it's a massive falio

anything else v important ?

 

[wannaimprove]

So most or all of the WMAF couples you’ve seen in Asia so far are that bad?
How is that possible you think?
Just normies settling for the first girl that obsesses over them or is there something else at play?

yeah i'd assume white guys would pull their weight

what's the point to go all the way to fking china and get a below average woman jfl

i'd feel judged walking with her the chinks would be probably think oh that's all that laowai can get pathethic

 

[Autisticpleighboi]

yeah i'd assume white guys would pull their weight

what's the point to go all the way to fking china and get a below average woman jfl

i'd feel judged walking with her the chinks would be probably think oh that's all that laowai can get pathethic

Facts. In WMAF couple, if the girl doesn’t mog the guy by at least 1-2 points, I kinda lose respect. Even worse if below looksmatch

 

[Orientalist]

what if we spammed dihexa, semax, and cerebrolysin

2 of the 3 are cope

 

[Exutoire]

So most or all of the WMAF couples you’ve seen in Asia so far are that bad?
How is that possible you think?
Just normies settling for the first girl that obsesses over them or is there something else at play?

Yeah the WMAF couples I’ve seen are very bad. The guys are not high value but even then, the girls are so bad that they’re not even looksmatched.
I think what you’re saying is right. It’s low value men in the West that go to China and keep the first woman who give them attention. It’s also likely they don’t speak Chinese.
All the guys who are decent looks wise, and speak Chinese are slayers in China. I heard from my gf about an American Lebanese guy, MTN and less than 6ft, who would speak very good Chinese and just clean up university campuses in T2 cities. He would make seethe my some people

 

[Exutoire]

good post

anything that surprised you after living there for a year when it comes to catering to their femalgaze ?

obviously beard is a good example - in the west is ok and in east it's a massive falio

anything else v important ?

On the top of my mind, one key aspect if you want maximize everything is makeup. Makeup is way more widely accepted. If you don’t go autistic with it, it’s a great SMV booster. The few times I put it on, I would have insane IOIs compared to normal.

 

[Autisticpleighboi]

On the top of my mind, one key aspect if you want maximize everything is makeup. Makeup is way more widely accepted. If you don’t go autistic with it, it’s a great SMV booster. The few times I put it on, I would have insane IOIs compared to normal.

Do you think 1.5-2mm stubble would be a huge looksmin for Asian women?

 

[Xavist]

2 of the 3 are cope

Which ones?

 

[Xavist]

Yeah the WMAF couples I’ve seen are very bad. The guys are not high value but even then, the girls are so bad that they’re not even looksmatched.
I think what you’re saying is right. It’s low value men in the West that go to China and keep the first woman who give them attention. It’s also likely they don’t speak Chinese.
All the guys who are decent looks wise, and speak Chinese are slayers in China. I heard from my gf about an American Lebanese guy, MTN and less than 6ft, who would speak very good Chinese and just clean up university campuses in T2 cities. He would make seethe my some people

I see; that makes sense, but still, those same guys just a decade or two ago would’ve got better results most likely, which is depressing to think about, at least according to the China veterans from the Roosh forum…
All kinds of LBH subhumans just teaching English, and almost regardless of age and looks level, were easily able to at least pull working class hotties, but apparently this phenomenon went away by the time Xi got into power and the country both improved economically and became more nationalistic…
And I doubt most of those guys knew Chinese either lol

 

[Exutoire]

Do you think 1.5-2mm stubble would be a huge looksmin for Asian women?

Yes. Get rid of all hair, except the ones on top of your head.
Even shave your body if you happen to sleep with Chinese

 

[Exutoire]

I see; that makes sense, but still, those same guys just a decade or two ago would’ve got better results most likely, which is depressing to think about, at least according to the China veterans from the Roosh forum…
All kinds of LBH subhumans just teaching English, and almost regardless of age and looks level, were easily able to at least pull working class hotties, but apparently this phenomenon went away by the time Xi got into power and the country both improved economically and became more nationalistic…

Yup but the West got way worse. So the difference in dating quality between the West and China is still unchanged

 

[Xavist]

Yup but the West got way worse. So the difference in dating quality between the West and China is still unchanged

Eh, seems like younger Western guys got screwed over in both parts of the world if you could still date decent looking girls at home as a normie and easily get English teaching jobs with minimal to no qualifications in Asia and then start pulling attractive girls left and right jfl

 

[Exutoire]

Eh, seems like younger Western guys got screwed over in both parts of the world if you could still date decent looking girls at home as a normie and easily get English teaching jobs with minimal to no qualifications in Asia and then start pulling attractive girls left and right jfl

Rough times…

 

[Xavist]

Yes. Get rid of all hair, except the ones on top of your head.
Even shave your body if you happen to sleep with Chinese

I’ve never heard of white or other types of foreign guys having to shave their body hair to please Asian women before lol

 

[Exutoire]

I’ve never heard of white or other types of foreign guys having to shave their body hair to please Asian women before lol

If you want to maximize your appeal that’s what you should do.

 

[wannaimprove]

On the top of my mind, one key aspect if you want maximize everything is makeup. Makeup is way more widely accepted. If you don’t go autistic with it, it’s a great SMV booster. The few times I put it on, I would have insane IOIs compared to normal.

interesting !

I'd never expect - I guess some stuff for the skin to make it look whiter right ?

I dont know anything about that I am older than you when I was growing up anything like that = you were considered a faggot

 

[Exutoire]

interesting !

I'd never expect - I guess some stuff for the skin to make it look whiter right ?

I dont know anything about that I am older than you when I was growing up anything like that = you were considered a faggot

It’s still gay in the West but in Asia it’s way more accepted.
Obviously you shouldn’t go overboard with it but doing makeup like Korean men do is optimal in Asia

 

[Orientalist]

And I doubt most of those guys knew Chinese either lol

I’d guess they probably did tbh. I can’t fathom being in China without decent machine translation on a smartphone… which maybe they did have during whatever period you’re taking about

 

[AlexanderAcolyte]

2 of the 3 are cope

which ones my friend