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My fellow Geomaxers and Looksmaxers,
today I present you a special gem that I managed to retrieve in the archives of the internet: An old post from a retired German orthodontics / jaw surgery forum. I remembered it because it was the post that blackpilled me in 2010, long before the term black pill even existed. I had sensed the dynamics already but he nailed them with brutal clarity. What he said may seem obvious to us now but was radical in a very blue-pilled society. And it remains valid until today. He even described Chad before it was a thing. For speaking the truth he got banned. His name remains unknown, his nickname was Internet. I hereby declare him Saint Internet.
Here is the translated version for you. Enjoy.
The ugly truth about beauty
Created by Internet
Group: Banned
Posts: 3
Registered: November 10, 2008
Posted January 3, 2009 - 9:16 a.m.
522 replies
Inspired by the thread “Are we really ugly?”, I wanted to add my two cents on the subject:
We should all be aware that appearance plays a significant role in many areas of life. I'm sure I'm not telling anyone anything new here. Some of you probably wouldn't be here if you weren't hoping for a significant aesthetic improvement from jaw surgery.
Of course, appearance isn't everything. However, it has been proven that attractive people tend to be more successful, have more friends, and, of course, have much better chances with the opposite sex. Young people in particular define themselves primarily by their appearance.
Although it is largely inherent in us to react differently to beautiful people than to less beautiful ones (especially, but not only, when looking for a partner), people can, of course, be disciplined to a certain extent. And that's where social factors come into play: young people in particular are constantly being told that there are only two things that matter in life: your looks and bling. It has become socially acceptable to judge people publicly on their appearance and sometimes even to mock them for it. Of course, some stupid casting shows have played their part in this.
This is another reason why there is a growing lack of sensitivity to the issue. Racism is, of course, completely rightly, ostracized in today's society. Even if such comparisons are, in my opinion, often overused, it is particularly apt here because, at its core, it is also about people being rejected or humiliated solely because of their physical appearance.
At our school, for example, there were at least a dozen people who looked pretty unattractive. They were somehow abnormal, sickly, weak... They were the freaks. When I think back on it, what was done to them can only be described as extreme. They were humiliated, mocked, and degraded in every conceivable way. They didn't stand a chance, but remained victims.
Many people have absolutely no sense of the damage they cause to others. It's certainly no exaggeration to say that you can drive a person to their death this way. And the rest often suffer enormous psychological damage for the rest of their lives.
This can really make you lose your faith in humanity, especially since those whose lives are made hell can't do anything about their appearance. In principle, it's also one of the last great injustices: those who drew the short straw in the genetic lottery have simply lost.
In addition, one problem often leads to another: those affected let themselves go, appear unkempt, withdraw, and become isolated.
Of course, one could argue that such people often lack social skills. But how are they supposed to develop these skills when they have been running into a wall of rejection their whole lives? No wonder they become a little strange over time...
It should also not be overlooked that the same behavior can come across completely differently in an attractive person than in an unattractive one. What looks cool in one person can look completely ridiculous in another. For example, when we talk to someone, we also perceive and evaluate their gestures and voice. In other words, good-looking people have to work pretty hard to lose their sympathy bonus, while others are often not even given the chance to prove themselves through their character.
And I really think that many people who are socially isolated can be helped, above all, by optimizing their appearance (or having it optimized). Depending on where the problems lie, this may also include (jaw) surgery. I don't deny that many people who think they need to go under the knife because of a self-perception disorder are more likely to be a case for the psych doc. But on the other hand, it is also true in a way that many people would benefit more from cosmetic surgery than from psychotherapy.
This is also a taboo subject because it contradicts our society's fundamental belief that social success does not depend significantly on external/biological characteristics. But many people simply do not recognize the significance of this, especially if they are not affected themselves.
I have met several people who have gained a completely different level of self-confidence, partly as a result of surgery, because people suddenly treat them differently, which then enables them to approach other people without inhibitions.
Of course, you should always approach something like this with realistic expectations, otherwise it can quickly end in disappointment. But in my opinion, if you take a “holistic” approach to the matter, you can achieve a lot. However, many people are not even aware of their (exact) problem. In many cases, this requires independent and objective advice that friends and family members cannot provide.
For most people, it is probably most frustrating when they are constantly rejected by women or men because of their appearance. Nothing confirms my theory more than when I occasionally go out with an acquaintance who regularly does bodybuilding and is not exactly the ugliest guy around. For this reason, however, he considers himself to be the greatest stud, even though (or perhaps because) he is otherwise rather simple-minded, which, incidentally, confirms all the clichés.
It's just abnormal how women are chasing him. He also clearly enjoys being the center of attention. When everyone gathers around him in situations like this, you can feel like a fifth wheel, especially when the bitches often don't even bother to strike up a friendly conversation with you. And no matter what they say, they just like disco pumpers, even if they're the worst guys around. To be fair, I have to admit that I find attractive women much more interesting than wallflowers. And I'm sure most guys feel the same way. So I'm not exempt from that.
Well, now I've gotten that frustration off my chest. Maybe I'm looking at it too negatively, but on the other hand, I've been through too much shit to think differently.
today I present you a special gem that I managed to retrieve in the archives of the internet: An old post from a retired German orthodontics / jaw surgery forum. I remembered it because it was the post that blackpilled me in 2010, long before the term black pill even existed. I had sensed the dynamics already but he nailed them with brutal clarity. What he said may seem obvious to us now but was radical in a very blue-pilled society. And it remains valid until today. He even described Chad before it was a thing. For speaking the truth he got banned. His name remains unknown, his nickname was Internet. I hereby declare him Saint Internet.
Here is the translated version for you. Enjoy.
The ugly truth about beauty
Created by Internet
Group: Banned
Posts: 3
Registered: November 10, 2008
Posted January 3, 2009 - 9:16 a.m.
522 replies
Inspired by the thread “Are we really ugly?”, I wanted to add my two cents on the subject:
We should all be aware that appearance plays a significant role in many areas of life. I'm sure I'm not telling anyone anything new here. Some of you probably wouldn't be here if you weren't hoping for a significant aesthetic improvement from jaw surgery.
Of course, appearance isn't everything. However, it has been proven that attractive people tend to be more successful, have more friends, and, of course, have much better chances with the opposite sex. Young people in particular define themselves primarily by their appearance.
Although it is largely inherent in us to react differently to beautiful people than to less beautiful ones (especially, but not only, when looking for a partner), people can, of course, be disciplined to a certain extent. And that's where social factors come into play: young people in particular are constantly being told that there are only two things that matter in life: your looks and bling. It has become socially acceptable to judge people publicly on their appearance and sometimes even to mock them for it. Of course, some stupid casting shows have played their part in this.
This is another reason why there is a growing lack of sensitivity to the issue. Racism is, of course, completely rightly, ostracized in today's society. Even if such comparisons are, in my opinion, often overused, it is particularly apt here because, at its core, it is also about people being rejected or humiliated solely because of their physical appearance.
At our school, for example, there were at least a dozen people who looked pretty unattractive. They were somehow abnormal, sickly, weak... They were the freaks. When I think back on it, what was done to them can only be described as extreme. They were humiliated, mocked, and degraded in every conceivable way. They didn't stand a chance, but remained victims.
Many people have absolutely no sense of the damage they cause to others. It's certainly no exaggeration to say that you can drive a person to their death this way. And the rest often suffer enormous psychological damage for the rest of their lives.
This can really make you lose your faith in humanity, especially since those whose lives are made hell can't do anything about their appearance. In principle, it's also one of the last great injustices: those who drew the short straw in the genetic lottery have simply lost.
In addition, one problem often leads to another: those affected let themselves go, appear unkempt, withdraw, and become isolated.
Of course, one could argue that such people often lack social skills. But how are they supposed to develop these skills when they have been running into a wall of rejection their whole lives? No wonder they become a little strange over time...
It should also not be overlooked that the same behavior can come across completely differently in an attractive person than in an unattractive one. What looks cool in one person can look completely ridiculous in another. For example, when we talk to someone, we also perceive and evaluate their gestures and voice. In other words, good-looking people have to work pretty hard to lose their sympathy bonus, while others are often not even given the chance to prove themselves through their character.
And I really think that many people who are socially isolated can be helped, above all, by optimizing their appearance (or having it optimized). Depending on where the problems lie, this may also include (jaw) surgery. I don't deny that many people who think they need to go under the knife because of a self-perception disorder are more likely to be a case for the psych doc. But on the other hand, it is also true in a way that many people would benefit more from cosmetic surgery than from psychotherapy.
This is also a taboo subject because it contradicts our society's fundamental belief that social success does not depend significantly on external/biological characteristics. But many people simply do not recognize the significance of this, especially if they are not affected themselves.
I have met several people who have gained a completely different level of self-confidence, partly as a result of surgery, because people suddenly treat them differently, which then enables them to approach other people without inhibitions.
Of course, you should always approach something like this with realistic expectations, otherwise it can quickly end in disappointment. But in my opinion, if you take a “holistic” approach to the matter, you can achieve a lot. However, many people are not even aware of their (exact) problem. In many cases, this requires independent and objective advice that friends and family members cannot provide.
For most people, it is probably most frustrating when they are constantly rejected by women or men because of their appearance. Nothing confirms my theory more than when I occasionally go out with an acquaintance who regularly does bodybuilding and is not exactly the ugliest guy around. For this reason, however, he considers himself to be the greatest stud, even though (or perhaps because) he is otherwise rather simple-minded, which, incidentally, confirms all the clichés.
It's just abnormal how women are chasing him. He also clearly enjoys being the center of attention. When everyone gathers around him in situations like this, you can feel like a fifth wheel, especially when the bitches often don't even bother to strike up a friendly conversation with you. And no matter what they say, they just like disco pumpers, even if they're the worst guys around. To be fair, I have to admit that I find attractive women much more interesting than wallflowers. And I'm sure most guys feel the same way. So I'm not exempt from that.
Well, now I've gotten that frustration off my chest. Maybe I'm looking at it too negatively, but on the other hand, I've been through too much shit to think differently.
