Regarding actual prospects in East Asia for someone with my stats (4 Viewers)

[excelsis]

I've lurked on this board for a long time. This is my first post.

I'll get straight to the point. I want to geomax to East Asia because I have a fetish for East Asian girls.

RELEVANT INFO ABOUT ME

I have been browsing PSL since the mid-late 2010s. I am pretty much everythingmaxxed, at least with respect to everything realistic. I have had surgeries to fix two of my three most noticeable flaws (relatively bulbous nasal tip and infraorbital volume deficiency resulting in dark circles).

I have already geomaxed to the Philippines several times and fucked 8 different Filipino women ranging from LTB (on my first trip, I was relatively inexperienced and wanted to practice) to HTB. I haven't fucked any more and don't particularly want to return to the Philippines because I find Filipino women unattractive, the food is unappealing and obviously there is nothing of interest to do in the Philippines other than sex. As I mentioned, I like the chinky East Asian phenotype, and Filipinos do not look Asian, they look Austronesian (because they are).

I haven't been to East Asia yet due to my two major handicaps/flaws when it comes to attracting East Asian women, which I'll cover in the stats section below.

STATS

- 31 years old (oldcel)
- Gym maxxed + leanmaxxed (~10% bodyfat, have been gymcelling since I was 15)
- Cock stats are ~7.3" non-bone pressed erect length, ~7.7" bone-pressed erect length, ~5.5" circumference
- Moneymaxxed Software Engineer (obviously this does not matter when it comes to genuine physical attraction or lust/desire, which is what I want from women)
- From the US, native English speaker and have an American accent (East Coast)
- Pretty boy maxxed (youthful appearance, have had electrolysis to remove facial hair, will be getting laser hair removal on body hair as I am very hairy)

Unfortunately, as mentioned above, I have two major problems:

1. I am brown. Not black or Indian - I am """latino""", specifically what most people think of when they think of "latinos", meaning a mix of American Indigenous and European. Note that I am latino in race only - I have no cultural affiliation and am pretty much a generic American suburbanite in all other respects.

Obviously, the problem here is the coloration. Everyone knows JBW is huge in Asia. Everyone knows Asians are the world's biggest white worshippers. Everyone knows East Asians look down on brown skin. This isn't news. While I'm Fitzpatrick 4 on the skin color scale, I am still noticeably brown, and my eyes and hair are black.

2. I am short. Like most people of """latin""" mestizo descent, I am fairly short. I am 5'7" (170cm) in the morning, meaning I am 5'6" (~168cm) in the afternoon (when it matters) due to spinal compression.

Again, the problem here is obvious. Height is huge everywhere, but East Asians are well-known height queens (esp. Koreans), despite the fact that chink boys are generally fairly short, with tall men being the exception rather than the norm.

THE POINT OF THIS THREAD

The main point of this thread is to get input/feedback from people who know about and have been to East Asia (I know there are quite a few of you on this board).

Ultimately, what I want is, at a minimum, a HTB East Asian girl who actually loves and is physically attracted to me. I assume Stacylite+ would be unrealistic for me. I don't care about anything other than her loving and feeling genuine attraction for me. IDGAF if she's poor, uneducated, from a rural town, whatever the fuck. I am pretty intrepid by nature and don't mind traveling to recondite areas of an East Asian country if necessary (i.e. Tier 2 or lower Chinese cities).

Based on experiences and info I have already gleaned from reading various threads on this site, I estimate that my best chance of actually fucking East Asian girls is China. It seems like Korea and Japan would be too competitive an environment for me to be able to secure anything worthwhile, but I could be (and would like to be) wrong.

WHAT I'VE ALREADY DONE:

Obviously, if I was actually going to geomax to one of these countries, I would need to be able to navigate the language to some extent. As an experiment (to gauge interest of girls from that region), I installed HelloTalk, posted my best pics of myself, as well as some pics of fancy food I've eaten and places I've been to (I'm pretty good at taking pictures), bought lifetime VIP and enough tokens for a single profile and moment boost.

Results: I got around 150 new chats from women ranging from 18 to 35 (the range I selected in the HelloTalk profile and moment boost filter). Most were just "waves" or whatever bullshit, but I did get a few conversations going with Chinese girls who had VIP and could translate my English messages to Chinese (I also translated their Chinese to English). I was told by various women that my voice was very pleasant and sounded like a professional English teacher or actor. I was called handsome by a few women, one said I looked like some chink male model I've never heard of. Obviously these compliments don't really matter, we all know PIV is the only IOI, but the point is that some of these girls reacted fairly positively and complimented me unprovoked, which is rare for women anywhere.

I've got 3 ongoing conversations with different Chinese girls going on.

Girl 1 is a MTB who seems to be playing hard to get with me or something. She's asked me what kind of girls I like (unprovoked), whether I'm married yet, why I'm not married yet, what kind of life I want in the future, a bunch of shit like that. She's trauma dumped on me in Chinese about how her ex cheated on her and mistreated her and a bunch of other shit I had to pretend to care about.

Girl 2 is another MTB who has also asked if I'm married and what kind of girls I like. She's some kind of Chinese nationalist or some bullshit, repeatedly comparing it to the US. I called her out on being a blind retard incapable of perceiving the flaws with her country, then started ignoring her and she triple texted me apologizing and asking why I stopped talking to her. The conversation has been boring since then, just generic day to day bullshit.

Girl 3 is a borderline unfuckable LTB who has been simping for me harder than any girl ever has before. She repeatedly calls me handsome, good looking, makes thirst comments about my physique and wanting me to lift her up or whatever other bullshit. She added me on WeChat and has been bugging me every day nonstop, asking me to call her "baby", complimenting me nonstop, generally acting like a lovesick retard. Honestly, she basically treats me exactly how I want, but the problem is she's a 31 year old frumpy uggo. I don't even want to fuck her, and I'm certainly not flying to China if she's my only prospect.

Regarding my moment-boosted post: it was carefully curated gym pics (fully clothed) flexing my physique and subtle bulge flex. The number of likes was in the 40s, mostly from Chinese women, and one Chinese girl commented about my pants being "out of place" (jfl).

MY PLANS/ASPIRATIONS

What I would like to do is, assuming China is my best/only chance at getting these East Asian girls, I want to apply for the Chinese language scholarship(s) offered to foreigners so I can study Chinese in China for a year and fuck girls there while getting betabuxxed by their government.

I don't remember which thread it was that described the different phenotypes in China, but based on that thread, I'd like to aim for Chengdu. If I recall correctly, the girls in this "Sichuan" region are shorter and thicker, while still being somewhat pale, which is ideal for me.

I'm also open to, and would prefer, either of the other two East Asian countries, particularly Korea (but I doubt that would be feasible given my height).

Of course, this is all contingent on me actually having a realistic shot at fucking girls there, which is what I want to ask about.

Given my stats and all the information provided, I'd like to get input from the East Asia experts on this board on the following questions:

1. DO I HAVE A CHANCE, IN ANY EAST ASIAN COUNTRY, OF FUCKING HTB+ ASIAN GIRLS?

2. WHICH COUNTRY, IF ANY, GIVES ME THE HIGHEST PROBABILITY OF DOING SO RELIABLY?

3. WHICH REGION(S) THERE GIVE ME THE HIGHEST PROBABILITY OF DOING SO RELIABLY?

4. WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DO I NEED TO DO TO MAXIMIZE MY CHANCES OF BEING ATTRACTIVE TO AS MANY HTB+ WOMEN THERE AS POSSIBLE, GIVEN MY RACE AND HEIGHT DISADVANTAGES?

P.S. I have attached some screenshots of a random Asian streamer (Chinese, I think?) I saw just to give you all an idea of the features I like. Obviously this girl is statusmaxxed and probably Stacylite+ because of makeup + filters, so I'm not expecting to get one that's this good looking or famous or whatever, the idea is just to show you what I like.

 

[Orientalist]

You answered all your own questions really. Time to fly over. Dongbei would be better than Sichuan if you were taller tho

 

[AlexanderAcolyte]

that's a stacylite in your eyes? btw with ur height and cock did u get any cock worship from the pinays?

i didn't read the entire thread yet ill come back to it

 

[14passport]

infraorbital volume deficiency resulting in dark circles

i have the same facial flaw, how much did it cost you to fix? and did you ascend from it?

I am brown. Not black or Indian - I am """latino""", specifically what most people think of when they think of "latinos", meaning a mix of American Indigenous and European

do you look fully latino? or do you have european features?
what would you rate yourself?

that will be the biggest difference, if you look fully latino or indigenous you will have a much harder time
if you look latino and handsome, it should be no problem, even if you are brownish
i know friends that have med phenotype that have done well there, and they were quite brown, but obviously they do look european which helps a lot, they don't look latino or arab

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as for your best chances, and with your stats, it will be China or Taiwan

is your fashion on point?

if you play it right it should be possible for a LTR, i don't know about slaying

 

[AlexanderAcolyte]

ngl i wouldn't really want to fuck that, in reality if its not china (im not too immersed your best chance is the phillipines at your height.) i know you said you don't like them though

aside from that, what is this language scholarship that you can get at 31? im interested i wanna be betabuxxed by CCP

btw over 25 in china are labelled as leftover women

 

[AlexanderAcolyte]

You answered all your own questions really. Time to fly over. Dongbei would be better than Sichuan if you were taller tho
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by dongbei do you mean harbin and its surroundings? or that inner mongolia area too.


God the world is so big and beautiful, i wish i could download languages. Fuck those polygots that just rot at home on omegle

 

[AlexBrown84]

if you don’t mind fucking post uni roasties, china won’t be hard for someone of your stature

strong first post, Godspeed my good sir!

 

[EEmaxxer]

That girl is like a HTB at best. Without all the filters prolly a MTB. I think you can do fine if you are willing to approach IRL.

 

[masonfrancis]

Good luck mate, just go without any expectations!

 

[excelsis]

i have the same facial flaw, how much did it cost you to fix? and did you ascend from it?


do you look fully latino? or do you have european features?
what would you rate yourself?

that will be the biggest difference, if you look fully latino or indigenous you will have a much harder time
if you look latino and handsome, it should be no problem, even if you are brownish
i know friends that have med phenotype that have done well there, and they were quite brown, but obviously they do look european which helps a lot, they don't look latino or arab

-

as for your best chances, and with your stats, it will be China or Taiwan

is your fashion on point?

if you play it right it should be possible for a LTR, i don't know about slaying

I got Infraorbital Malar Implants from Eppley for around $20,000. This was around 2018, though. I don't know if his prices have gone up since then.

I would say my features lean more European than Indigenous. Indigenous people tend to have somewhat flat faces, high cheekbones, strong jaws, "Asian-ish" eyes and aquiline noses due to their common ancestry with modern-day Siberians. I lack all of those features, saving for relatively high cheekbones (Eppley actually shaved down the malar portion of the implants because he considered my cheekbones to be high enough as-is).

I would rate myself a weak 5 on the PSL scale. Face only. Holistically, my height probably knocks me down to a 4.

I have DM'd you pics of myself.

Regarding fashion: my wardrobe consists largely of polos, crew neck t-shirts, all in flat neutral colors (brown, maroon, navy, white, black, gray, ...). No graphic tees or designs or stripes or any other autistic shit like that.

My shoes are either flat black/gray/white leather Converse-style sneakers from Koio (very casual wear) or dark brown leather Jodhpur, Chelsea or Chukka boots from Carmina.

Basically, I'm not a fashionista, but I know a thing or two from watching style videos on Youtube.

that's a stacylite in your eyes? btw with ur height and cock did u get any cock worship from the pinays?

i didn't read the entire thread yet ill come back to it

My Asian fetish is pretty strong. It doesn't take much to satisfy me.

I did get a lot of cock worship from Filipino women. Regrettably, having an actual big cock (7"+) is kind of best relegated to a porn fantasy. Despite what most women say, in my experience, almost none of them can actually take a cock that big.

While it was immensely and viscerally satisfying to see a 4'9" Filipino girl giving me a double-handed handjob while still having cock to spare, the actual penetrative sex was fairly unsatisfying. Most positions were impossible and caused the girls actual physical pain. Only missionary with a pillow under the girl's hips and stand-and-carry were reliably tolerated by most. Doggy style and mating press (my favorites) were untenable. There were constant pleas to slow down, switch positions, take a break etc. In every single Filipino woman's case, I hit the cervix during sex, which, unfortunately, is not as erotic and sexy as it is in hentai or whatever. Usually the girl would yelp or screech in pain and I had to stop for a time.

ngl i wouldn't really want to fuck that, in reality if its not china (im not too immersed your best chance is the phillipines at your height.) i know you said you don't like them though

aside from that, what is this language scholarship that you can get at 31? im interested i wanna be betabuxxed by CCP

btw over 25 in china are labelled as leftover women

The Chinese government has been offering scholarships to foreigners for some time, most likely in an attempt to increase their soft power and attract specialized talent from abroad.

Most academic scholarships have an age limit (I think it's 35 for Bachelor's degrees?), but the language learning one is VERY lenient (under 45? or there might not even be a limit, I don't recall).

The China Scholarship Council website (Google it, not sure if I can link it here) has a good bit of info on these scholarships.

if you don’t mind fucking post uni roasties, china won’t be hard for someone of your stature

strong first post, Godspeed my good sir!

Thanks so much!

I have DM'd a few of you some videos of myself. I'd like to request ratings and would appreciate any tips/advice you can give. Thanks in advance.

 

[AlexanderAcolyte]

I got Infraorbital Malar Implants from Eppley for around $20,000. This was around 2018, though. I don't know if his prices have gone up since then.

I would say my features lean more European than Indigenous. Indigenous people tend to have somewhat flat faces, high cheekbones, strong jaws, "Asian-ish" eyes and aquiline noses due to their common ancestry with modern-day Siberians. I lack all of those features, saving for relatively high cheekbones (Eppley actually shaved down the malar portion of the implants because he considered my cheekbones to be high enough as-is).

I would rate myself a weak 5 on the PSL scale. Face only. Holistically, my height probably knocks me down to a 4.

I have DM'd you pics of myself.

Regarding fashion: my wardrobe consists largely of polos, crew neck t-shirts, all in flat neutral colors (brown, maroon, navy, white, black, gray, ...). No graphic tees or designs or stripes or any other autistic shit like that.

My shoes are either flat black/gray/white leather Converse-style sneakers from Koio (very casual wear) or dark brown leather Jodhpur, Chelsea or Chukka boots from Carmina.

Basically, I'm not a fashionista, but I know a thing or two from watching style videos on Youtube.



My Asian fetish is pretty strong. It doesn't take much to satisfy me.

I did get a lot of cock worship from Filipino women. Regrettably, having an actual big cock (7"+) is kind of best relegated to a porn fantasy. Despite what most women say, in my experience, almost none of them can actually take a cock that big.

While it was immensely and viscerally satisfying to see a 4'9" Filipino girl giving me a double-handed handjob while still having cock to spare, the actual penetrative sex was fairly unsatisfying. Most positions were impossible and caused the girls actual physical pain. Only missionary with a pillow under the girl's hips and stand-and-carry were reliably tolerated by most. Doggy style and mating press (my favorites) were untenable. There were constant pleas to slow down, switch positions, take a break etc. In every single Filipino woman's case, I hit the cervix during sex, which, unfortunately, is not as erotic and sexy as it is in hentai or whatever. Usually the girl would yelp or screech in pain and I had to stop for a time.



The Chinese government has been offering scholarships to foreigners for some time, most likely in an attempt to increase their soft power and attract specialized talent from abroad.

Most academic scholarships have an age limit (I think it's 35 for Bachelor's degrees?), but the language learning one is VERY lenient (under 45? or there might not even be a limit, I don't recall).

The China Scholarship Council website (Google it, not sure if I can link it here) has a good bit of info on these scholarships.



Thanks so much!

I have DM'd a few of you some videos of myself. I'd like to request ratings and would appreciate any tips/advice you can give. Thanks in advance.

brutal i didnt get any dms


when are you going to apply for the language learning scholarship? maybe i could go that route and move to china earlier, i was planning on moving later this year myself, im curious to know more, im assuming your american?

 

[excelsis]

brutal i didnt get any dms


when are you going to apply for the language learning scholarship? maybe i could go that route and move to china earlier, i was planning on moving later this year myself, im curious to know more, im assuming your american?

I am American, yes. Definitely give it a shot. It's my understanding that the program is quite permissive and just about anyone gets in (Chinese people actually complain about this on Chinese social media, jfl). The biggest barrier to entry is just gathering all the required documentation (it's a lot) and writing your "statement of intent" or whatever.

I personally graduated magna cum laude and majored in Computer Science back in college, plus I have 5 years of experience as a software engineer, so it's likely I'd be approved for a dual language - master's program if I bothered to apply for it, but I'm not really interested in going back to school for an actual degree. The language scholarship is really just an easy way to secure living expenses and a means of legally living in China for a full year.

I believe the deadline for applications has passed for this year (I think it's January through March?), so I'll most likely apply next year. I'll continue to moneymaxx and do some more looksmaxxing in the meantime.

 

[AlexanderAcolyte]

I am American, yes. Definitely give it a shot. It's my understanding that the program is quite permissive and just about anyone gets in (Chinese people actually complain about this on Chinese social media, jfl). The biggest barrier to entry is just gathering all the required documentation (it's a lot) and writing your "statement of intent" or whatever.

I personally graduated magna cum laude and majored in Computer Science back in college, plus I have 5 years of experience as a software engineer, so it's likely I'd be approved for a dual language - master's program if I bothered to apply for it, but I'm not really interested in going back to school for an actual degree. The language scholarship is really just an easy way to secure living expenses and a means of legally living in China for a full year.

I believe the deadline for applications has passed for this year (I think it's January through March?), so I'll most likely apply next year. I'll continue to moneymaxx and do some more looksmaxxing in the meantime.

have you worked out the numbers on how much $$ they usually give you and where? specifically in regards to the language scholarship.

 

[masonfrancis]

have you worked out the numbers on how much $$ they usually give you and where? specifically in regards to the language scholarship.

i’m interested

 

[Orientalist]

I got Infraorbital Malar Implants from Eppley for around $20,000. This was around 2018, though. I don't know if his prices have gone up since then.

I would say my features lean more European than Indigenous. Indigenous people tend to have somewhat flat faces, high cheekbones, strong jaws, "Asian-ish" eyes and aquiline noses due to their common ancestry with modern-day Siberians. I lack all of those features, saving for relatively high cheekbones (Eppley actually shaved down the malar portion of the implants because he considered my cheekbones to be high enough as-is).

I would rate myself a weak 5 on the PSL scale. Face only. Holistically, my height probably knocks me down to a 4.

I have DM'd you pics of myself.

Regarding fashion: my wardrobe consists largely of polos, crew neck t-shirts, all in flat neutral colors (brown, maroon, navy, white, black, gray, ...). No graphic tees or designs or stripes or any other autistic shit like that.

My shoes are either flat black/gray/white leather Converse-style sneakers from Koio (very casual wear) or dark brown leather Jodhpur, Chelsea or Chukka boots from Carmina.

Basically, I'm not a fashionista, but I know a thing or two from watching style videos on Youtube.



My Asian fetish is pretty strong. It doesn't take much to satisfy me.

I did get a lot of cock worship from Filipino women. Regrettably, having an actual big cock (7"+) is kind of best relegated to a porn fantasy. Despite what most women say, in my experience, almost none of them can actually take a cock that big.

While it was immensely and viscerally satisfying to see a 4'9" Filipino girl giving me a double-handed handjob while still having cock to spare, the actual penetrative sex was fairly unsatisfying. Most positions were impossible and caused the girls actual physical pain. Only missionary with a pillow under the girl's hips and stand-and-carry were reliably tolerated by most. Doggy style and mating press (my favorites) were untenable. There were constant pleas to slow down, switch positions, take a break etc. In every single Filipino woman's case, I hit the cervix during sex, which, unfortunately, is not as erotic and sexy as it is in hentai or whatever. Usually the girl would yelp or screech in pain and I had to stop for a time.



The Chinese government has been offering scholarships to foreigners for some time, most likely in an attempt to increase their soft power and attract specialized talent from abroad.

Most academic scholarships have an age limit (I think it's 35 for Bachelor's degrees?), but the language learning one is VERY lenient (under 45? or there might not even be a limit, I don't recall).

The China Scholarship Council website (Google it, not sure if I can link it here) has a good bit of info on these scholarships.



Thanks so much!

I have DM'd a few of you some videos of myself. I'd like to request ratings and would appreciate any tips/advice you can give. Thanks in advance.

Bret Easton Ellis would be proud tbh

 

[excelsis]

have you worked out the numbers on how much $$ they usually give you and where? specifically in regards to the language scholarship.

i’m interested

The "main" state-sponsored scholarship (which, I believe, you HAVE to apply to in addition to any city, region or university-specific scholarships you want) offers a full ride for tuition, small living stipend (it isn't much, just enough to live frugally - but hey, free money) and housing stipend (some university-specific scholarships allow you to stay in their dorms for free).

University and/or region-specific scholarships are typically less generous in terms of awards, but in every case I've seen, the scholarship covers AT LEAST the full cost of tuition. It's possible to be denied the main state-sponsored scholarship and awarded the smaller regional/university scholarships.