Advice Need advice boyos - Putting an end to Chinamaxxing ?

[Exutoire]

In short: I have a loving girlfriend in China, she is rich, pretty and super cool. She loves me and I love her. We have been together for a year. My life could basically be set and pretty good with lots of money. (btw thanks @Rance for hello talk guide)
Downsides : Committing with no prior sexual experience (I am early 20s) and being younger than her (5 years diff but she looksmaxxes and is open to hardmaxxing) . Also leaving family and living very far from my motherland.

If I break up with her, I'd probably geomaxx to Eastern Europe to find a blonde gf and try to work there later down the line (maybe in baltic countries). But is it doable ? I'd be closer to my family and Europe is nice overall I believe.
However, I am really unsure if it's worth it. Maybe I am in a "grass is greener" type of bias and I'd just be incel again.
For reference I am 6,2ft and 5 facially, maybe 5,5 or 6 if I looksmax more. Brown eyebrows / hair with white (almost pale) face, greenish eyes. I am upper middle class and would realistically earn decent money after graduating if I work in Europe. If I stay with her, I'd have more opportunities though, with a good network.
I have not taken any decision yet but I am starting to think about it, in order to make plans to stay in China or go back to Europe. For now I just wait and see but I want to start making up my mind.

I'd like to hear what you guys think and get a taste of the outside view. @AlexBrown84 @Marco Pumpo @biggunsar @Sneep @myeyes @RenaissanceMan @Stellar_Travels @Orientalist

 

[Orientalist]

Chinese girls know how to lock you down quick don’t they? @Rance abandoned the forum after getting a LTR and I got a super clingy girl myself and don’t know how to get rid of her because I ultimately just want to be alone/bachelor for the entire forseeable future. She loves me but I don’t/can’t love anyone
Up to you and your values though. No matter what you do in life there will be a pervasive element of regret. Sounds like you got everything one could ask for and realized it’s not all it’s cracked up to be

 

[Sneep]

I think you're the only one who can make the decision since it is your life but how you make the decision is important. Don't get caught in analysis paralysis.
It's better to set your mind on something and follow it rather than have a lengthy debate on your options.

You're right when you mentioned 'the grass is always greener.' Everyone has different values and what you value may not be the same as what I value so I can't answer for you but whatever you choose, make sure not to dwell on the past or get too anxious about the future.

No matter what you do in life there will be a pervasive element of regret. Sounds like you got everything one could ask for and realized it’s not all it’s cracked up to be

This is extremely true. After all it is about the journey. The same reason why cheating in a video game feels so lame and boring the reason why games are fun is because there is an element of challenge and skill required to win.

There's an old Twilight Zone episode that illustrates this very well.

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@Exutoire
If you're asking what I would personally do. I would probably stay but find different hobbies to explore so I have other stuff going on outside of my relationships with other people because I value knowledge, experience and skills more than relationships with others.

 

[Nofortunateson]

In short: I have a loving girlfriend in China, she is rich, pretty and super cool. She loves me and I love her. We have been together for a year. My life could basically be set and pretty good with lots of money. (btw thanks @Rance for hello talk guide)
Downsides : Committing with no prior sexual experience (I am early 20s) and being younger than her (5 years diff but she looksmaxxes and is open to hardmaxxing) . Also leaving family and living very far from my motherland.

If I break up with her, I'd probably geomaxx to Eastern Europe to find a blonde gf and try to work there later down the line (maybe in baltic countries). But is it doable ? I'd be closer to my family and Europe is nice overall I believe.
However, I am really unsure if it's worth it. Maybe I am in a "grass is greener" type of bias and I'd just be incel again.
For reference I am 6,2ft and 5 facially, maybe 5,5 or 6 if I looksmax more. Brown eyebrows / hair with white (almost pale) face, greenish eyes. I am upper middle class and would realistically earn decent money after graduating if I work in Europe. If I stay with her, I'd have more opportunities though, with a good network.
I have not taken any decision yet but I am starting to think about it, in order to make plans to stay in China or go back to Europe. For now I just wait and see but I want to start making up my mind.

I'd like to hear what you guys think and get a taste of the outside view. @AlexBrown84 @Marco Pumpo @biggunsar @Sneep @myeyes @RenaissanceMan @Stellar_Travels @Orientalist

You don't love her if you think about leaving her. You will also be set for a life of unhappiness if you stay in China with one girl.
China is good for slaying but not marrying into a family.

 

[Acion]

Dnr. That disgusting flat faced chink you fuck deserves to be killed.

 

[wannaimprove]

bro you if you hesitate you don't love her and you will end up cheating or unhappy

 

[Yuezhi]

Personally I think you have it made in your situation. Unless you are confident that you can upgrade and get someone younger that is also willing to provide you with a similiar lifestyle assuming you still want to place priority on that, I would stick with her. You can always try to bang pros/non working chicks by taking short trips outside China without her if you get bored and want to try something different here and there.

It goes without saying that it will probably be extremely difficult to get a similiar kind of relationship in Europe. I like blondes as well but Chinese women have a lot of advantages too. If you are able to get a decent work position especially in the field that you want with her connections then that is another pro.
Seeing family less unfortunately can be a real downside tho.

 

[Yuezhi]

China is good for slaying but not marrying into a family.

How so?

I know from some accounts that Chinese inlaws can try to move in with you and make your life hell
but I doubt this is a problem if the family is well off and if the girl has brothers which they will likely rely on first. On the other hand some guys that have married Chinese girls end up having pretty good relationships with their in laws even in cases where they regularly see them often.

Only other potential negatives I see are being tied down there long term/raising mixed race kids there if something major geopolitically happens like covid or if a massive wave of anti foreigner sentiment starts. But as we saw with covid that wasn't permanent and I don't see any hot Taiwan conflict happening in the near future realistically. Living amongst people of another race and being culturally isolated is increasingly the western experience as well these days plus dealing with wokeism and all of that nonsense even if the former doesnt apply as much in a place like the Baltics. At least in China you are treated as a 2nd class citizen vs a 10th class one as a white man and the women act like actual women.

Also if you marry a Chinese women but still get tired of living there and if money isn't a factor how about relocating to Taiwan or somewhere like Kuala Lumpur with its large Chinese population longer term?

 

[Meeks]

Youre asking advice from Chinamax.me don’t be surprised by the advice you get…

Ultimately reading your post and your desire for a blonde white girl and to live in Europe, deep down inside you’re humiliated for dating a chink.

The idea of having chink in laws and living in a chink country and having to look you family and friends in the eyes at Christmas dinner and with a straight face telling them that you are indeed marrying someone China destroys your soul.

If she was Japanese or Korean it would feel less like a humiliation ritual and maybe you could convince yourself and feel less self conscious

 

[myeyes]

Repeating what other have said, if you really loved her you probably wouldn’t think of leaving. She probably fills most the items on your subconscious checklist and you probably have grown fond of her from being with her a lot and sleeping with her

When I found a girl I loved for real I didn’t think of other girls at all

 

[AlexBrown84]

If you can’t ‘love’ a chink that basically betabuxxes you and is attached to you then it’s over for trying for a white gal and all the micro cheating and humiliation rituals you’ll inevitably go thru

 

[blatonslatt]

In short: I have a loving girlfriend in China, she is rich, pretty and super cool. She loves me and I love her. We have been together for a year. My life could basically be set and pretty good with lots of money. (btw thanks @Rance for hello talk guide)
Downsides : Committing with no prior sexual experience (I am early 20s) and being younger than her (5 years diff but she looksmaxxes and is open to hardmaxxing) . Also leaving family and living very far from my motherland.

If I break up with her, I'd probably geomaxx to Eastern Europe to find a blonde gf and try to work there later down the line (maybe in baltic countries). But is it doable ? I'd be closer to my family and Europe is nice overall I believe.
However, I am really unsure if it's worth it. Maybe I am in a "grass is greener" type of bias and I'd just be incel again.
For reference I am 6,2ft and 5 facially, maybe 5,5 or 6 if I looksmax more. Brown eyebrows / hair with white (almost pale) face, greenish eyes. I am upper middle class and would realistically earn decent money after graduating if I work in Europe. If I stay with her, I'd have more opportunities though, with a good network.
I have not taken any decision yet but I am starting to think about it, in order to make plans to stay in China or go back to Europe. For now I just wait and see but I want to start making up my mind.

I'd like to hear what you guys think and get a taste of the outside view. @AlexBrown84 @Marco Pumpo @biggunsar @Sneep @myeyes @RenaissanceMan @Stellar_Travels @Orientalist

What's her HelloTalk user bro?

 

[Pained4ever]

Dnr. That disgusting flat faced chink you fuck deserves to be killed.

whoa lmfao chill out

 

[Acion]

whoa lmfao chill out

No. China didn't fight a war for 22 years just so some spoiled, snobby rich pan face can walk around thinking the disgusting bourgeois thoughts she thinks.

The CPC was obviously not thorough enough eradicating whatever disgusting, greedy creatures that fucking gook decended from

 

[Exutoire]

I think you're the only one who can make the decision since it is your life but how you make the decision is important. Don't get caught in analysis paralysis.
It's better to set your mind on something and follow it rather than have a lengthy debate on your options.

You're right when you mentioned 'the grass is always greener.' Everyone has different values and what you value may not be the same as what I value so I can't answer for you but whatever you choose, make sure not to dwell on the past or get too anxious about the future.



This is extremely true. After all it is about the journey. The same reason why cheating in a video game feels so lame and boring the reason why games are fun is because there is an element of challenge and skill required to win.

There's an old Twilight Zone episode that illustrates this very well.
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@Exutoire
If you're asking what I would personally do. I would probably stay but find different hobbies to explore so I have other stuff going on outside of my relationships with other people because I value knowledge, experience and skills more than relationships with others.

Interesting mate, thanks for the insight

 

[masonfrancis]

In short: I have a loving girlfriend in China, she is rich, pretty and super cool. She loves me and I love her. We have been together for a year. My life could basically be set and pretty good with lots of money. (btw thanks @Rance for hello talk guide)
Downsides : Committing with no prior sexual experience (I am early 20s) and being younger than her (5 years diff but she looksmaxxes and is open to hardmaxxing) . Also leaving family and living very far from my motherland.

If I break up with her, I'd probably geomaxx to Eastern Europe to find a blonde gf and try to work there later down the line (maybe in baltic countries). But is it doable ? I'd be closer to my family and Europe is nice overall I believe.
However, I am really unsure if it's worth it. Maybe I am in a "grass is greener" type of bias and I'd just be incel again.
For reference I am 6,2ft and 5 facially, maybe 5,5 or 6 if I looksmax more. Brown eyebrows / hair with white (almost pale) face, greenish eyes. I am upper middle class and would realistically earn decent money after graduating if I work in Europe. If I stay with her, I'd have more opportunities though, with a good network.
I have not taken any decision yet but I am starting to think about it, in order to make plans to stay in China or go back to Europe. For now I just wait and see but I want to start making up my mind.

I'd like to hear what you guys think and get a taste of the outside view. @AlexBrown84 @Marco Pumpo @biggunsar @Sneep @myeyes @RenaissanceMan @Stellar_Travels @Orientalist

Glad to see you here agian bro..

 

[masonfrancis]

Chinese girls know how to lock you down quick don’t they? @Rance abandoned the forum after getting a LTR and I got a super clingy girl myself and don’t know how to get rid of her because I ultimately just want to be alone/bachelor for the entire forseeable future. She loves me but I don’t/can’t love anyone
Up to you and your values though. No matter what you do in life there will be a pervasive element of regret. Sounds like you got everything one could ask for and realized it’s not all it’s cracked up to be

The lads from 2024 are all gone and wifed up..

 

[nomad]

just be aware that the never ending chase of lust can be a curse to some and that you need to be ok with that mentally if you leave her to chase more. building something meaningful with a girl will become very very difficult after dating tons of girls for me at least (and i have heard this from many other dudes as well). i chose lust because of my addictive personality and sometimes feel this odd dread and emptiness. it comes with the lifestyle . choose wisely

 

[14passport]

1. Moving to a new country won't fix your problems. You already have everything you could ask for, the problems you are describing are all in your head and not something that Europe will change.

2. You are idealizing Europe, your life quality will likely take a big hit. With your stats and previous history in Europe, it's not gonna be easy to get a hot blonde gf, rich that treats you well, maybe it will have 1 of those 3. You were a virgin or close to it before China, eastern european girls will eat you alive.

3. Unless you have a free appartment, a decent salary in Europe doesn't go very far compared to your life in China. It's gonna be maybe enough for 1-2 trips per year, restaurants 2-3 times per week, good location appartment.
Have you ever lived by yourself and paid your own bills?

4. You say you will be close to your family but will geomaxx to the baltics?
Realistically how big of a difference will it make? How many yearly flights will you take to see your family?
Because in practice if you are working there, you will visit them maybe 1 or 2 per year.

I'm not saying China is good for you, but I don't see how Europe will improve your situation at all. I only see you will make it a lot worse.

 

[Exutoire]

1. Moving to a new country won't fix your problems. You already have everything you could ask for, the problems you are describing are all in your head and not something that Europe will change.

2. You are idealizing Europe, your life quality will likely take a big hit. With your stats and previous history in Europe, it's not gonna be easy to get a hot blonde gf, rich that treats you well, maybe it will have 1 of those 3. You were a virgin or close to it before China, eastern european girls will eat you alive.

3. Unless you have a free appartment, a decent salary in Europe doesn't go very far compared to your life in China. It's gonna be maybe enough for 1-2 trips per year, restaurants 2-3 times per week, good location appartment.
Have you ever lived by yourself and paid your own bills?

4. You say you will be close to your family but will geomaxx to the baltics?
Realistically how big of a difference will it make? How many yearly flights will you take to see your family?
Because in practice if you are working there, you will visit them maybe 1 or 2 per year.

I'm not saying China is good for you, but I don't see how Europe will improve your situation at all. I only see you will make it a lot worse.

These are good arguments, thanks man.

 

[biggunsar]

In short: I have a loving girlfriend in China, she is rich, pretty and super cool. She loves me and I love her. We have been together for a year. My life could basically be set and pretty good with lots of money. (btw thanks @Rance for hello talk guide)
Downsides : Committing with no prior sexual experience (I am early 20s) and being younger than her (5 years diff but she looksmaxxes and is open to hardmaxxing) . Also leaving family and living very far from my motherland.

If I break up with her, I'd probably geomaxx to Eastern Europe to find a blonde gf and try to work there later down the line (maybe in baltic countries). But is it doable ? I'd be closer to my family and Europe is nice overall I believe.
However, I am really unsure if it's worth it. Maybe I am in a "grass is greener" type of bias and I'd just be incel again.
For reference I am 6,2ft and 5 facially, maybe 5,5 or 6 if I looksmax more. Brown eyebrows / hair with white (almost pale) face, greenish eyes. I am upper middle class and would realistically earn decent money after graduating if I work in Europe. If I stay with her, I'd have more opportunities though, with a good network.
I have not taken any decision yet but I am starting to think about it, in order to make plans to stay in China or go back to Europe. For now I just wait and see but I want to start making up my mind.

I'd like to hear what you guys think and get a taste of the outside view. @AlexBrown84 @Marco Pumpo @biggunsar @Sneep @myeyes @RenaissanceMan @Stellar_Travels @Orientalist

the truth is there are two types of men.

bucks and bluejays

most men are bucks (this isnt' a good thing or a bad thing)
but bucks are never happy with one doe. Always have to be chasing. These types have to be happy being single more than together with someone.

bluejays are happy with one wife. They don't want to stray. they think about it, but realise the choices of women get shittier as time goes on. So if you got right now, a good girl, keep her.

if you ultimately have to. Go use hookers on the down low. that way, you dont' fall in love. But you keep the girl you got

simple as.
you get variety and still have a good relationship.

 

[PokerGuy]

unless you don't want kids, no point in having a ltr with an asian girl if you are white

 

[geneblackman]

i don't understand why people can't just nail down a good wife then just cheat on her on the sly. i mean do the same exact thing you did that made you find her in the first place then do it with other women. just fly to a nearby country when she's out somewhere. i've built up a worldwide network of women all over east asia, LATAM and africa if i ever decide i need variety

you think that now because you have a LTR with a top tier chinese girl that your smv might be higher than you thought. most likely, it isnt. i've been to most major cities in north america and it's the same situation everywhere - most guys are alone and girls don't wanna be bothered. europe is slightly better than the US but still not guaranteed. you won't find a blonde girl who loves you or cares about you after highschool

also, in china it's popular for women to have "puppies" or "golden retrievers" as boyfriends. it seems like that's what you are to her. she'll be bored with you eventually or else the love would be very palpable