predeterminism
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A foreigner’s perspective for what it’s worth. I’m British but lived in Japan for two years for work purposes from late 2010 to late 2012. While there I was lucky enough to get to know and socialise with a group of Japanese guys, who were all about my age - early thirties. They were totally cool. Outgoing, confident, modestly successful career wise etc. They really made me feel at home and they couldn’t do enough to help me find my feet. I was a bit clueless about living in Japan at first and needed all the help I could get. But after about a month I started to realise these guys mostly had no women in their life. Just one of the six men was in a long-term relationship but the others? Nothing. No wives, no girlfriends, zilch....
After about a month I worked up the confidence to tactfully ask them what the deal was In terms of their lack of female company. I was genuinely shocked by the response. The five single guys more or less said the same thing. That they’d tried dating years ago, kept getting knocked back, got embarrassed and demoralised by the whole process and gradually gave up on the idea of ever being able to have a proper relationship with a woman. Remember.....these guys were in their early 30s, not just teenagers. I tried to build up their confidence, telling them there was NOTHING wrong with them (which was true - these were not loner type gaming fanatics or anything) but I don’t think I had much success. It was like they were all traumatised or something.
One of the guys later quietly admitted that he visited prostitutes once or twice a month, just to handle the physical side of things. He wasn’t boasting about it. He felt ashamed of doing it, and even hid it from his other Japanese friends. I think he only told me because of me being a foreigner.
The crazy thing was that even the one guy who WAS in a long-term relationship wasn’t entirely happy either. He confided that he constantly worried his girlfriend would dump him. He told me he lay awake at night stressing about it. Guess what. He was dumped, several months after I’d left Japan. Today he’s still doing well career wise, but is still single and now expects he’ll never get the chance to be married or have kids.
That’s just my personal, very limited experience of Japan and of some young Japanese men I knew there. I’m not saying it’s typical or a scientific survey of course!
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The latest government survey found that 42 % of men aged between 18 to 34 were still virgins. Japan has one of the world's lowest birthrates and is home to a severely aging population, with a recent survey finding 34.6 million Japanese aged over 65.
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The average American loses his or her virginity at age 17. Virgins make up 12.3 percent of females and 14.3 percent of males ages 20 to 24.
damn.
its much much worse than the west.
imagine hypergamy and girls coldness towards guys in the west but x10 worse
no wonder they need you to upload ID to dating app. geomaxxers would make things even worse.
do you guys think its hypergamy and girls only fucking the top % guys? or do you think its just their toxic work culture and just conservative culture in general?