Finding rich girl/sugar momma LTRs in China

[HellisLikeToronto]

Hey, first off im new to this forum but hav been lurking for a bit and have read other black pill/red pill and travel stuff.
something i have been thinking a lot about for a while is how western nations, particularly canada and the us first, will soon be unlivable for men who aren't
wealthy and have connections in the near future unless your ideal version of life is a slave living in a pod with 3 other roomates who are
most likely migrants and you are content with being an incel, forever addicted to vr slop and dependent on govt assistance which will be only enough to eat
lab grown meat and insect protein.

Geomaxing is a necessity in this day and age and i think more importantly its wise to try to find a long term partner before north american and anglo degeneracy
spreads to the east. More importantly i think its wiser to find a rich partner who can support you due to ever increasing inflation and a march towards a global cyberpunk dystopia and reading the guy exutoire's posts here has inspired me to try to find a rich girl in china as a life partner.
honestly i think many members here should try to do the same as china in particular is one of the only
countries that stands up to american/western imposed imperialism and the global rules based order and you may be safer there in the future.
also having half asian kids will likely be a positive as youre not taking them to live with you in your home countries and they will get a
boon being seen as exotic in eastern nations. China has countless cities with so many people and thus many rich girls,
it shouldn't be that hard in theory to find one that fits all or most of your boxes

I was there recently back in early 2024 and was very impressed with beijing, Xian and Chongqing although i did not reallly know chinese at the time but still hooked up in xian.
What i am looking for specifically is a girl younger than me, a 22-25 yo virgin with money if those exist still, and even better if i can get a sugar momma relationship so that long term my future kids and i would be financially secure. i am also fine with a more normal relationship where i also pay for stuff and we split stuff and have her as a backup. I also want a relationship where the girl loves me and is loyal which is nigh impossible to find where i am right now.

I am a 29 year old canadian, half white and half middle eastern but pass for white although a few chinese people have noted that i look part iranian, which isnt far off but i wont list
my actual ancestry here. i am also 177 cm but could fraud being a little taller with boots etc. The asian girls i was with in the past commented that i am cute so i guess i am almost a 5 on the psl rating scale. i know enough chinese to make basic conversation but am working on that and have started using some of the shared resources mentioned by orientalist and rance

Im planning on a trip to China in the next couple months and am planning on leaving my hellhole province of ontario permanently where I would first spend 5 to 6 months in tier 2 cities and would stay longer by getting a tefl job and relying on my online business which doesnt make a lot but is enough for living in most cities there.

where and how would be the best way to find what i am looking for? i am thinking of using hellotalk,tandem and direct approaches. thanks in advance

 

[enrique]

cant speak for experience as im a decade younger than you and havent travelled much, but in theory you are completely right about china having many millionares/ newly formed wealth even in women as they may have divorced their rich old husbands and got some money out of them...

your stats sound okay altough the whole finding a 22-25 year old virgin with money is a bit hard to find/prove. if you find hard enough you can definately find some women willing to take you in, shelter you, even feed you lol as long as you are with her and are good in bed.

it would be a good guide to make on how to find girls who would want to sugar a western man, as most guides are about the opposite and how westerners flash their money and buy girls stuff in these 3r world countries

 

[HellisLikeToronto]

yeah ill report my experiences here when i go, i am curious about if i can tick all of my boxes and on top of
that how good looking of a girl i can get that fits that criteria. im thinking looking in malls might be better since
thats ussually where you theoretically can find upper middle class and rich girls, moreso in smaller cities
the virgin part is still important as i dont want a girl thats been tainted by another guy tbh. id go for a little older
but i dont think 26 and 27 yo virgins exist even in those parts of china

 

[EEmaxxer]

And another delulu dude goes to China to find a unicorn…

 

[myeyes]

In my limited experience women who are attractive and rich have severe mental issues.
Just recently I had a rich half Chinese half Thai girl who I was planning to make my gf and she started lying to me about a bunch of stuff for no reason

 

[HellisLikeToronto]

In my limited experience women who are attractive and rich have severe mental issues.
Just recently I had a rich half Chinese half Thai girl who I was planning to make my gf and she started lying to me about a bunch of stuff for no reason

maybe but thai girls in general in my also limited experience all seemed a bit out there and mentally unstable
when i was in thailand so cant imagine what the rich ones are like. i think the higher number of expats and tourists doesn't help either and perhaps rich
ones are more demanding because of this and think they can get away with acting like loons
chinese girls that ive met
in comparison have been a lot more chill here in canada and in their home country, although they sadly become
Canadianized here.

 

[geneblackman]

although they sadly become
Canadianized here.

protip: they've always been like that
protip 2: all asian women are mentally ill it's just a question of the degree to which they are

 

[HellisLikeToronto]

And another delulu dude goes to China to find a unicorn…

are you chinese or have you been to china before?

i admit i could be delusional, this post is also meant as a sanity check but at the same time is what im asking for really that difficult
when millions of rich girls exist? i can go to smaller cities with no white guys and go for one thats around mid 4 to high 4 psl that checks
most of these boxes

 

[Orientalist]

And another delulu dude goes to China to find a unicorn…

Yellow mate guarding hands typed this post
But yeah virgin+rich is a stretch if your stats are mediocre

 

[RenaissanceMan]

Honestly not really plausible since you are not young/tall and not even fully white, might work if you target older women (30+) but usually rich sugar mamas tend to congregate in tier1 cities where competition is harder and ofc if they are going to pay they expect a certain quality. Exutoire case is peculiar since he is young, tall, white and french (huge cultural halo) and his ltr it's with an older women, so the opposite compared to your plan

 

[myeyes]

maybe but thai girls in general in my also limited experience all seemed a bit out there and mentally unstable
when i was in thailand so cant imagine what the rich ones are like. i think the higher number of expats and tourists doesn't help either and perhaps rich
ones are more demanding because of this and think they can get away with acting like loons
chinese girls that ive met
in comparison have been a lot more chill here in canada and in their home country, although they sadly become
Canadianized here.

There’s 2-3 Chinese girls from my past I’m thinking of too when I type this. I think having money and being a girl makes their life too easy and fucks their brain

 

[PokerGuy]

in China there are more men than women and also chinese women are very hypergamous wealth wise, your only chance is going for women of your age

 

[geneblackman]

in China there are more men than women and also chinese women

only in rural areas

are very hypergamous wealth wise

incel ppb moneycoper myth

 

[enrique]

statistically speaking tho i think some women (maybe older ones) would be down to sugar a decently looking, tall, western, "masculine" man, however the whole young good looking virgin + rich girl in china is almost impossile to find

 

[Yuezhi]

Ive been to China twice OP although I am far from an expert especially on this topic but you might be able to get someone if you compromise on the virgin or age part. You will definitely need better Mando ability if you want to live in those kind of cities.

A non sugar relationship with one like you mentioned sounds more plausible. It might be easier if you go for a chick slightly darker or shorter than avg in whatever province you end up in/one who is a few pounds overweight since chinese men hate that and it can lower their smv in their eyes by like several points if you are okay with that.
Would also think that Tier 2s and even 3s should still have plenty of old/new money types in malls. Just stay away from the Tier 1s, especially Shenzhen...

Honestly, i want to look for something like this myself as well as a soon to be teacher in China but it's also good to be grounded in reality.

 

[AlexBrown84]

Go to a tier 1 city

 

[14passport]

your stats are not good enough to get someone that ticks all those boxes
you are pretty much average height and are not white, and I assume average face from your description

virgin, hot and rich forget about it

there's lots of middle to high class girls in China that love foreigners but they are not stupid, dont expect to arrive there and just get the hottest ones, they know the difference between incels and chads

if you put in some effort you can probably get a cute one (hot if you got yellow fever), that covers most of the expenses and will treat you very well/love you

 

[EEmaxxer]

Yellow mate guarding hands typed this post
But yeah virgin+rich is a stretch if your stats are mediocre

LOLZ. Please. If y’all are happy with a LTB 30+ Chinese chick but rich…be my guest.

 

[enrique]

i mean getting some older lady in general to sugar you doesnt seem like such a bad idea, you can still have your adventoures on the side while enjoying all the benefits of companionship with an older experienced woman in general, its probably also a thrill at least to me almost a fetish since i would be like half their age lol so theres this feeling of doing something wrong morally...

however we should be talking good $$ involved, not that she will pay you i mean you are not a prostitte but that she will let you stay at her home, cook/buy food maybe give you some gifts and whatnot... i think the determining factor for this to succeed is to be attractive, but more than that being very masculine looking and good in bed

 

[Meeks]

Wow, what a coincidence.. I too want a rich young virgin. What are they chances we have such unique taste?

But in all seriousness, which do you prioritise more, being young and a virgin or rich. I feel like unless you’re a Chad you’ll have to choose one over the other

 

[enrique]

Wow, what a coincidence.. I too want a rich young virgin. What are they chances we have such unique taste?

But in all seriousness, which do you prioritise more, being young and a virgin or rich. I feel like unless you’re a Chad you’ll have to choose one over the other

true thats what everyone is looking for which is a bit crazy statistically speaking since its what 60 years old want what 50 years old want what 30 yeard old want and what 20 year olds wants too... however i think it also kinda shows that the "market" for rich/upper middle class urban city women aged 30-50 is pretty untapped since they are not the go to for most men

 

[myeyes]

You will also get extremely bored with life if you find a women like this. I’m surprised nobody posted the Japanese “professional boyfriend” guy. The life doesn’t look great

 

[HellisLikeToronto]

i mean i can guess i can go for one a little closer to my age like 25 to 28 yo and
one thats only been with one partner at most if its unrealistic like you all say.
what im looking for is more along the lines of a girl treating me well and living with her and paying for stuff
and going places on her dime and being able to rely on her over the years than me outright getting cash for the most part.
im okay with a cute looking girl or i guess as it would be phrased here, a high mtb.

Go to a tier 1 city

i thought tier 1 cities have rich girls that are mostly looking for rich guys and then i would also have to compete with other guys,
some that are blonde and blue eyed and bettre looking than me. i mean ill try it out if its not actually that difficult.
what cities would you recommend?

You will also get extremely bored with life if you find a women like this. I’m surprised nobody posted the Japanese “professional boyfriend” guy. The life doesn’t look great

i dont think id get bored, i dont think im built for chasing too many girls and I can always go on vacations with her
to other parts of china and asia to spice things up and hopefully she pays part of it or most of it

 

[enrique]

everything you say can be done to be honest. but theres not a lot of field tests and experience done on most of these topics, best you can do is take the chance, follow your gut and try for yourself, fortune favours the bold!!!

 

[myeyes]

i dont think id get bored, i dont think im built for chasing too many girls and I can always go on vacations with her

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7344835125672283435

This can be you

 

[enrique]

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7344835125672283435

This can be you

lol crazy to see this

still that guy would be a sub 5 in the west if not TRUECEL, he is 5'4, asian, average/below average face, probably small dick, no muscles nor frame, no status, etc yet if that póst is real and not exxagerated he got 300k usd from SEVEN girlfriends (more than most relationships men ever get) and he does household stuff?, stuff that you would also need to be doing in the west (cooking, cleaning, taking out garbage, fixing stuff since you are the "man of the house", etc) and moreover you probably dont need to do all that bs constantly, i know its seen as odd, weird, low prestige and such, but if thats how a japanese treats such a low smv man, then how would she "treat" a supposedly higher smv man like the average young guy in the west?

 

[practicaleagle]

lol crazy to see this

still that guy would be a sub 5 in the west if not TRUECEL, he is 5'4, asian, average/below average face, probably small dick, no muscles nor frame, no status, etc yet if that póst is real and not exxagerated he got 300k usd from SEVEN girlfriends (more than most relationships men ever get) and he does household stuff?, stuff that you would also need to be doing in the west (cooking, cleaning, taking out garbage, fixing stuff since you are the "man of the house", etc) and moreover you probably dont need to do all that bs constantly, i know its seen as odd, weird, low prestige and such, but if thats how a japanese treats such a low smv man, then how would she "treat" a supposedly higher smv man like the average young guy in the west?

tbh ive only ever seen that work for strat in east asia work for other asians though, i dont think westerners with a similar smv in east asia would be able to pull that off

 

[enrique]

tbh ive only ever seen that work for strat in east asia work for other asians though, i dont think westerners with a similar smv in east asia would be able to pull that off

might be, but according to most statistics whites (westerners) are quite desired in these asian cultures, specially in middle to higher income areas, for looks reason as well as prestige, sense of adventure, breaking from the norm, western media, etc, of course smv wise you cant be looking like that guy i mean he is 5'4 which is crazy. still would be interesting to see if demand for good looking young white americans/europeans is enough in those places to actually try what the thread suggest and have a sugarmomma there

 

[14passport]

might be, but according to most statistics whites (westerners) are quite desired in these asian cultures, specially in middle to higher income areas, for looks reason as well as prestige, sense of adventure, breaking from the norm, western media, etc, of course smv wise you cant be looking like that guy i mean he is 5'4 which is crazy. still would be interesting to see if demand for good looking young white americans/europeans is enough in those places to actually try what the thread suggest and have a sugarmomma there

they do love westerners, if you understand how society works in many of those countries, its clear western guys are a very good match for the women that want out and something different
but incels are usually the opposite of what they are trying to find, which is why you see them with the absolute lowest

 

[enrique]

they do love westerners, if you understand how society works in many of those countries, its clear western guys are a very good match for the women that want out and something different
but incels are usually the opposite of what they are trying to find, which is why you see them with the absolute lowest

true i guess poor looks + (VERY IMPORTANTLY) NOT BEING NT AND OUTGOING is very bad anywhere

 

[14passport]

true i guess poor looks + (VERY IMPORTANTLY) NOT BEING NT AND OUTGOING is very bad anywhere

i don't think for most its due to poor looks, obviously it doesnt help if you look nothing like the idea of a western man or if you are an oldcel trying to pickup 20yo hotties

i think most geniuely fail because they don't understand what women want, or how to play the game
and instead they act like desperate sex tourists

 

[geneblackman]

the NT pill is absolutely brutal. focusing on solely looks is being stuck in 2020

 

[HellisLikeToronto]

yeh doing house work cooking and other bullshit like that often like that japanese guy is a bit pathetic
although it could be a good deal for him, not that i mind doing it here and there but im not going to be her maid
which the type im looking for could afford hiring an actual one.
i would focus more on treating her well in other ways and fucking her good.
also if she needs to work a regular job like that guys girl
then its likely she isnt actually that rich unless shes in upper management of some company or a business owner.
maybe someone that comes from old money will be more difficult to get but ill see if i can achieve that.

One thing i can improve on is hitting the gym to add some more mass, but
whether chinese girls actually like this or not seems to be a debated topic.

i think im mostly NT so i guess no problems for me there, but here in canada its still hard to get laid.
i know guys who are better looking than me that still struggle but i have had a fling with an okay looking chinese girl
that immigrated when she was a kid that got me into asian girls, but the quality i saw in china is far better.