Does this issue persist if you are talking in foreign language in an exotic country?

[rt_gamer]

Essentially, people instantly and instinctively spot that you're not "normal", through subtle body language cues

Emphasis on "subtle". For example, micro-eye movements, micro-variations of facial expression, posture, gait and voice, etc.

When (non-autistic) people look at an autistic person they don't know, their brain will instantly process the (dozens of) subtle body language cues from this person. It's not a conscious reasoning, it happens in a split second. And the brain concludes "this person is not like me / not normal" => "I don't like them".

They don't consciously, themselves, know why they dislike us. All they know is that they felt an instant dislike out of nowhere for us. So they'll try to explain it, by saying we give off a "bad vibe". Or they'll later retroactively justify it by using any specific behavior we have and they don't like (eg. infodumping, interrupting people, etc).

But the truth is that they didn't like you even before you started infodumping, they disliked you even before hearing you talk or knowing your name or anything about you, just seeing you was literally enough.

Even masking autistics can't escape it. Masking can hide the more obvious autism signs (ie. "resting bitch face", rocking back and forth on a chair, hand flapping, etc), because the person is actually aware they do it.

But controlling, changing, hiding subtle body language cues is near-impossible, because you're not even aware you do it, it's literally as automatic and unconscious as breathing.

Does this issue persist if you are talking in foreign language in an exotic country?

 

[Lebensraum]

Does this issue persist if you are talking in foreign language in an exotic country?

No, they will think you are "not normal" due to lack of language skills.

 

[EEmaxxer]

In short yes, they will notice.

However, if you have a phenotype where the locals really exoticize your phenotype in a positive way, or you are straight up really attractive, the halo effect will help minimize them noticing you are not normal.

 

[AlexBrown84]

I’ve adapted to the orient

Bow like a gook

Hands behind my back and walking stride like a old Chinese guy

Soft spoken like these Thai guys

 

[Breezula]

Essentially, people instantly and instinctively spot that you're not "normal", through subtle body language cues

Emphasis on "subtle". For example, micro-eye movements, micro-variations of facial expression, posture, gait and voice, etc.

When (non-autistic) people look at an autistic person they don't know, their brain will instantly process the (dozens of) subtle body language cues from this person. It's not a conscious reasoning, it happens in a split second. And the brain concludes "this person is not like me / not normal" => "I don't like them".

They don't consciously, themselves, know why they dislike us. All they know is that they felt an instant dislike out of nowhere for us. So they'll try to explain it, by saying we give off a "bad vibe". Or they'll later retroactively justify it by using any specific behavior we have and they don't like (eg. infodumping, interrupting people, etc).

But the truth is that they didn't like you even before you started infodumping, they disliked you even before hearing you talk or knowing your name or anything about you, just seeing you was literally enough.

Even masking autistics can't escape it. Masking can hide the more obvious autism signs (ie. "resting bitch face", rocking back and forth on a chair, hand flapping, etc), because the person is actually aware they do it.

But controlling, changing, hiding subtle body language cues is near-impossible, because you're not even aware you do it, it's literally as automatic and unconscious as breathing.

Does this issue persist if you are talking in foreign language in an exotic country?

Not really sure if you're trying to ask whether speaking a foreign language will mask your autistic traits which probably would if they're speech related.

I think it plays a role in how NT you're going to be perceived though. Popular western language => halo
Unusual niche language => possibly a falio unless you have a good reason to speak it.

Saying you learned Spanish for fun is going to come across as very different to saying you learned Bulgarian, the latter will most likely weird people out.
Like saying you have a pet hamster vs a pet bug

 

[JustGo]

There's a whole lot of variety that can be covered under "not normal". Inability to show warmth, joke & laugh is arguably one of the worst personality flaws you can have. It makes you seem so colorless and off-putting, regardless of your stats. Only in countries where stoic behavior is respected will you be treated well in business and platonic interactions.

Saying you learned Spanish for fun is going to come across as very different to saying you learned Bulgarian, the latter will most likely weird people out.

Only if they are clueless tards who weren't even aware that Bulgaria existed. By telling them you learned Bulgarian, you are revealing their ignorance, and they're gonna resent you for that.

 

[OliveNotBrown]

Inability to show warmth, joke & laugh is arguably one of the worst personality flaws you can have

i lack all 3 of these, still khhv at 22 despite being approached countless times, just lol at my fucked brain

looks < nt past a certain point

 

[FoidGrabber]

Thread is tearing me up here. Am I autistic? Never diagnosed.

Biggest thing for me is fluctuation in behavior because I’m not used to of the styles of NT to pull off yet.

Resting bitch face? Or notice and slightly smile? I accidentally wide smiled at a stranger, but it was Philippines so they were happy and waved for me to come over, but instantly I noticed this so I went back to resting bitch face. Probably creeped them out so much.

I often look in the mirror trying to perfect some stuff like smiling and expression of emotions like dismay, I saw someone being sad before I really tried to copy it. Happy too, but not too happy. I’ve changed over time the smiles that work for me.

If I don’t stay on point, I’ll start touching my head with my arm behind my back in an autistic way, or licking my wrists so I have to stay dialed in and outside of my head.

I also look away when people speak to me. I have to be dialed in on that, 3 seconds eyes, 3 seconds another part of face and back is my rule.

While I’m talking and zoning out if what they are saying is super boring, I remember something funny and start laughing out loud and have to play it down (happened before). Happened in public too. Laughing to myself like a creeper.

A really good way I learned that works short term (like 30-90minutes) is to out-NT the NT people by talking over them loudly and saying NT things before they can speak while being energetic and high trust. Usually they get nervous (and back down viewing you favorably) but it takes energy to keep up, and once you guys sit down and relax, they get time to think and figure it out (isolating them helps and never interacting with a group to increase the time it lasts). Somehow as a group they figure it out, and communicate your non-NT or something, or you just get tired and can’t keep up appearances and quit.

I think language maxing masks it. I’ve never had someone in Spanish tell me I’m weird or something. My vocabulary is basic enough I can’t really talk about abstract blackpill topics too.

 

[geneblackman]

If I don’t stay on point, I’ll start touching my head with my arm behind my back in an autistic way, or licking my wrists

I think language maxing masks it

bro

 

[FoidGrabber]

bro

Speaking another language helps because I focus on speaking rather than falling into my head in thought which is when I begin to lick my wrists or rub touch my head.

When I fall into my head I can’t see anything so someone has to wake me up by maybe yelling at me, like the PH girl I saw that I was betabuxxing, she hated it so much and asked me why I was so weird.

 

[OliveNotBrown]

If I don’t stay on point, I’ll start touching my head with my arm behind my back in an autistic way, or licking my wrists so I have to stay dialed in and outside of my head.

i do this too except for the licking thing, i cover my mouth a lot cause im insecure or i just look down at the floor or my phone cause if i keep my head up i tend to look around a lot in a bad way

 

[Pained4ever]

Am I autistic?

Brother look where you are