Do you guys do 3rd dates?

[myeyes]

My rule is if no sex by the second date, I cut her off.
I’ve been rejected countless times in weird ways on the 3rd date and if I think about it a little, I’m also pretty sure I’ve NEVER gotten laid on a 3rd date. It’s always the first two (for girls who are actually attracted to me) or a weird pity fuck on the 4th-5th-6th date (these girls I’m pretty sure only see me as betabuxx and the sex has no passion, I don’t do this anymore).

But today I broke that rule because I met a girl I really really like, one I wanted to make my girlfriend.

3rd date, we go to the bar, have a few drinks, flirting, physical escalation, from my perspective everything is going well, she starts acting a little weird when we’re walking back to my apartment. Anyway, I get her back to my apartment, on the balcony, go for the kiss, she blocks me with her arms, and says she wants to go home. BRUTAL rejection, top 5 in my life. Tried 2 more times and it was the same. I asked her if she was a virgin and she said no… (and coincidently the two virginities I’ve taken were on the first date) and then she left.

I’m considering upping my screening process on first dates based off their reaction to me asking them back to my place. I feel like this reaction is usually the single biggest indicator for the rest of your sexual relationship with them. Of course “maybe next time ” is the best reaction, but I feel like even their tone of voice and whether they smile or not is an incredibly accurate indicator to whether further dates will be a waste of time and money.

• What do you guys do?
• Do you think girls who make you wait 3, 4 or 5 dates actually feel real sexual desire for you?
• Am I wrong? Are girls that make you wait that long green flag waifu material? Are the ones that fuck you on the first date red flags?

 

[geneblackman]

trying kissing and cuddling in a public area like a park or in the city and see how she reacts. cutting them off for no sex by the second date seems a little much especially if they aren't whores

 

[14passport]

What do you guys do?

My mental plan is:
On the first date it's normal for many to not want to fuck, as girls need to worry a lot about safety, and are not as horny as guys.
If you didnt fuck on 1st date but you like her enough and thought the 1st date was good, then do a 2nd date. Otherwise cut her off here.
If you don't fuck on 2nd date, I would only have more dates if i want to have a real relationship with her and if previous dates have gone very well. Dating is expensive and time consuming, i'm not going to wait 6 dates to fuck some mid girl.

Ask yourself this question? If you were chad, would she fuck with you on the 1st or 2nd date? If the answer is yes, and she didn't fuck with you, then cut her off because she is not attracted to you, and just using you for free meals and wasting time.

Do you think girls who make you wait 3, 4 or 5 dates actually feel real sexual desire for you?

Yes, it depends. There's "traditional" girls that will take longer to have sex with a stranger. The hard thing is figuring out if she has legit reasons to not fuck quickly.
However that only applies to more reserved girls, if the girl is a slut and she makes you wait 5 dates, you are fucked.

Am I wrong? Are girls that make you wait that long green flag waifu material? Are the ones that fuck you on the first date red flags?

I don't think it matters that much. There's plenty of girls that will fuck quickly that are waifu material.
If i'm looking at longterm relationship I would analyse a 100 others things before that.

 

[14passport]

trying kissing and cuddling in a public area like a park or in the city and see how she reacts. cutting them off for no sex by the second date seems a little much especially if they aren't whores

that's dumb, PDA in Asia are a big no even if she likes you

 

[geneblackman]

that's dumb, PDA in Asia are a big no even if she likes you

we weren't in asia at the time. i don't know where OP is

 

[14passport]

we weren't in asia at the time. i don't know where OP is

I believe he is in Bangkok

 

[masonfrancis]

My rule is if no sex by the second date, I cut her off.
I’ve been rejected countless times in weird ways on the 3rd date and if I think about it a little, I’m also pretty sure I’ve NEVER gotten laid on a 3rd date. It’s always the first two (for girls who are actually attracted to me) or a weird pity fuck on the 4th-5th-6th date (these girls I’m pretty sure only see me as betabuxx and the sex has no passion, I don’t do this anymore).

But today I broke that rule because I met a girl I really really like, one I wanted to make my girlfriend.

3rd date, we go to the bar, have a few drinks, flirting, physical escalation, from my perspective everything is going well, she starts acting a little weird when we’re walking back to my apartment. Anyway, I get her back to my apartment, on the balcony, go for the kiss, she blocks me with her arms, and says she wants to go home. BRUTAL rejection, top 5 in my life. Tried 2 more times and it was the same. I asked her if she was a virgin and she said no… (and coincidently the two virginities I’ve taken were on the first date) and then she left.

I’m considering upping my screening process on first dates based off their reaction to me asking them back to my place. I feel like this reaction is usually the single biggest indicator for the rest of your sexual relationship with them. Of course “maybe next time ” is the best reaction, but I feel like even their tone of voice and whether they smile or not is an incredibly accurate indicator to whether further dates will be a waste of time and money.

• What do you guys do?
• Do you think girls who make you wait 3, 4 or 5 dates actually feel real sexual desire for you?
• Am I wrong? Are girls that make you wait that long green flag waifu material? Are the ones that fuck you on the first date red flags?

Get a dating coach!

 

[Orientalist]

My rule is if no sex by the second date, I cut her off.
I’ve been rejected countless times in weird ways on the 3rd date and if I think about it a little, I’m also pretty sure I’ve NEVER gotten laid on a 3rd date. It’s always the first two (for girls who are actually attracted to me) or a weird pity fuck on the 4th-5th-6th date (these girls I’m pretty sure only see me as betabuxx and the sex has no passion, I don’t do this anymore).

But today I broke that rule because I met a girl I really really like, one I wanted to make my girlfriend.

3rd date, we go to the bar, have a few drinks, flirting, physical escalation, from my perspective everything is going well, she starts acting a little weird when we’re walking back to my apartment. Anyway, I get her back to my apartment, on the balcony, go for the kiss, she blocks me with her arms, and says she wants to go home. BRUTAL rejection, top 5 in my life. Tried 2 more times and it was the same. I asked her if she was a virgin and she said no… (and coincidently the two virginities I’ve taken were on the first date) and then she left.

I’m considering upping my screening process on first dates based off their reaction to me asking them back to my place. I feel like this reaction is usually the single biggest indicator for the rest of your sexual relationship with them. Of course “maybe next time ” is the best reaction, but I feel like even their tone of voice and whether they smile or not is an incredibly accurate indicator to whether further dates will be a waste of time and money.

• What do you guys do?
• Do you think girls who make you wait 3, 4 or 5 dates actually feel real sexual desire for you?
• Am I wrong? Are girls that make you wait that long green flag waifu material? Are the ones that fuck you on the first date red flags?

I remember this one PUA dude I’ve talked to saying he always goes for sex on the 1st date, but basically never tries on the 2nd since it never works and saves trying for the 3rd. I don’t know the logic though lol

 

[myeyes]

I remember this one PUA dude I’ve talked to saying he always goes for sex on the 1st date, but basically never tries on the 2nd since it never works and saves trying for the 3rd. I don’t know the logic though lol

That’s interesting, I’ve had quite a lot of success on the second date but never the third.

Yes, it depends. There's "traditional" girls that will take longer to have sex with a stranger. The hard thing is figuring out if she has legit reasons to not fuck quickly.
However that only applies to more reserved girls, if the girl is a slut and she makes you wait 5 dates, you are fucked.

Yeah figuring out the reason is probably something I could have done better. But if they’re not a virgin and they won’t even let you kiss on the third date then she’s probably not attracted to you? Would be my assumption.

 

[explorer7878]

I fucked girls on 3rd and 4th dates. Especially more conservative girls who "do not like ONS" might take their time

 

[14passport]

Yeah figuring out the reason is probably something I could have done better. But if they’re not a virgin and they won’t even let you kiss on the third date then she’s probably not attracted to you? Would be my assumption.

You are in Bangkok, there's no reason to do so many dates unless she is perfect for you.

 

[14passport]

Also, have you considered you are not filtering the girls correctly?
First/Second dates fuck in Bangkok should be quite high, if you are running into lots of girls that make you wait... sounds like you could be ending up with lots of goldiggers and timewasters

 

[Kevin_Logan]

I dont even do 1st date

 

[myeyes]

Also, have you considered you are not filtering the girls correctly?
First/Second dates fuck in Bangkok should be quite high, if you are running into lots of girls that make you wait... sounds like you could be ending up with lots of goldiggers and timewasters

Yeah I’ve had quite a few 1st or 2nd date lays including one virginity. Not sure about filtering before the date but I always do a video call to check the vibe, not sure what else I should be doing with pre date filtering.

This girl was the best one I met so far which is why it stung a bit

 

[14passport]

Yeah I’ve had quite a few 1st or 2nd date lays including one virginity. Not sure about filtering before the date but I always do a video call to check the vibe, not sure what else I should be doing with pre date filtering.

i wasn't thinking about videocalls, more about filtering them based on bio, pictures, chat

for example those that have instagram in bio are usually timewaster or have insanely high expectations
any girl that mentions wanting a provider, a true gentleman or something along the lines is usually a goldigger
if she has lots of pics in expensive places she is going to be hard to fuck

if chatting with her she mentions expensive places, thats a red flag

and just in general being aware of your SMV in that market, truth is if you shoot way about what your SMV is, you will struggle to fuck them easily

analyse the matches that didnt go well? do you notice any pattern of those dating app profiles?

hard for me to give specific action but if you are in a place where you have lots of likes, being able to filter is very important because you can't go on dates with all of them, and you are gonna miss lots of good ones

there's specific vibes you can notice, certain kind of pics, etc...
but you need to notice those patterns
bikini and booty pics might be normal in Europe, but might be all prostitutes or gold diggers in a specific country

 

[myeyes]

i wasn't thinking about videocalls, more about filtering them based on bio, pictures, chat

for example those that have instagram in bio are usually timewaster or have insanely high expectations
any girl that mentions wanting a provider, a true gentleman or something along the lines is usually a goldigger
if she has lots of pics in expensive places she is going to be hard to fuck

if chatting with her she mentions expensive places, thats a red flag

and just in general being aware of your SMV in that market, truth is if you shoot way about what your SMV is, you will struggle to fuck them easily

analyse the matches that didnt go well? do you notice any pattern of those dating app profiles?

hard for me to give specific action but if you are in a place where you have lots of likes, being able to filter is very important because you can't go on dates with all of them, and you are gonna miss lots of good ones

there's specific vibes you can notice, certain kind of pics, etc...
but you need to notice those patterns
bikini and booty pics might be normal in Europe, but might be all prostitutes or gold diggers in a specific country

Hmm most those things I’m subconsciously filtering out from years of experience. I think the main problem is my SMV

 

[14passport]

Hmm most those things I’m subconsciously filtering out from years of experience. I think the main problem is my SMV

then yeah it's probably your SMV or you might need some "game"/flirty improvements during the dates

if there's a big SMV gap you can't expect those girls to quickly fuck with you
they have hotter guys for ONS

 

[younglivinglife]

Game is a huge thing

 

[JohnGotti]

In my LATAM experience, girls usually put out on the first or second date. No exceptions, they either asked to fuck or were complacent about going to my unless they had to work.


So....

If a girl doesn't put out on a first date or second. And they expect me to continue bother with them, they will either: A) String me along to parties or events. B) Offer something material (housing, food, etc.)


Otherwise, dropped. People don't even think longterm here, lol. It's fucking LATAM.