China advice

[nomad]

im looking to go to China soon and need advice from some of the china gurus here.

i like slaying on trips but its def not all i care about. Sightseeing, high quality food, cool things to do, nightlife, good QOL basically are very important to me as well. i have heard and read a lot of good things about Guangzhou. i initially put Chongqing, Chengdu, Shanghai and HK on my list.

i probably need to summon @AlexBrown84 for this

 

[AlexBrown84]

Beijing to sightsee, then go slay in chengdu and guangzhou

 

[14passport]

Beijing to sightsee, then go slay in chengdu and guangzhou

what makes Chengdu and Guangzhou so good for slaying?

 

[Yuezhi]

what makes Chengdu and Guangzhou so good for slaying?

Pretty sure the avg is better and should still be a small percentage of English speakers in both

 

[Yuezhi]

Im also aiming for CQ/Chengdu myself but in case I can't get a job in either and want to cast a wider net, what are some other underrated provinces especially if I want better looking pale and/or curvier chicks?

Changsha seems okay for the latter but chicks aren't as light skinned. I'll probably avoid Wuhan since @Orientalist prev said it's not great.

Dongbei and most other northern areas have winters that are really cold and dry but im thinking peripheral areas near the coast like Shandong(Qingdao)/Jiangsu could be good for that type? Anybody been to Anhui?

 

[geneblackman]

what makes Chengdu and Guangzhou so good for slaying?

purely anecdotal as i haven't been to china itself but from girls i've talked to online and irl the ones from central and southern provinces are by far the coolest and most open minded. plus they have great bodies

 

[nomad]

Beijing to sightsee, then go slay in chengdu and guangzhou

ty ty

will it be hard for me with just english? also what are the apps i should use? i have a good xhs account already with viral posts

 

[RenaissanceMan]

ty ty

will it be hard for me with just english? also what are the apps i should use? i have a good xhs account already with viral posts

I'm in China right now and yes with only English it's hard, not only slaying but life in general. For girls ofc still depends on your looks level, I'm not particularly good looking so maybe for you it's better. I guess in Shanghai you can get further with only english but competition is stronger

 

[Xavist]

I'm in China right now and yes with only English it's hard, not only slaying but life in general. For girls ofc still depends on your looks level, I'm not particularly good looking so maybe for you it's better. I guess in Shanghai you can get further with only english but competition is stronger

Just stick to the leftover women on the language exchange apps if you’re doing that poorly through other channels lol

 

[geneblackman]

Just stick to the leftover women on the language exchange apps if you’re doing that poorly through other channels lol

average chinese woman over 30 looks better than the average honky femoid at 25. leftover is asian male cope because those mfers got MSTOW'ed to the neatherrealm

 

[AlexBrown84]

Just stick to the leftover women on the language exchange apps if you’re doing that poorly through other channels lol

Hey my brotha, stop putting lol at the end of your messages

It looks tacky

Don’t worry tho, I’ve also suffered doing this and recently have had to check myself

 

[Xavist]

Hey my brotha, stop putting lol at the end of your messages

It looks tacky

Don’t worry tho, I’ve also suffered doing this and recently have had to check myself

Right, sure, I just like following typical internet conventions to fit in better…

 

[Xavist]

average chinese woman over 30 looks better than the average honky femoid at 25. leftover is asian male cope because those mfers got MSTOW'ed to the neatherrealm

Yeah but they still have reduced longevity for LTR’s when they’re 25-30+ years old…

 

[geneblackman]

Yeah but they still have reduced longevity for LTR’s when they’re 25-30+ years old…

that's why you get a side piece or two from a different city or preferably a different country

 

[Xavist]

that's why you get a side piece or two from a different city or preferably a different country

Maybe it doesn’t actually matter all that much if you’re an old-cel, now that I think about it…

 

[geneblackman]

Maybe it doesn’t actually matter all that much if you’re an old-cel, now that I think about it…

yeah after 25 you stop caring tbh

 

[RenaissanceMan]

Just stick to the leftover women on the language exchange apps if you’re doing that poorly through other channels lol

I'm doing good with beckies but at a certain point you get kinda tired of them and want to upgrade to Htb or low stacies but it's truly a big jump in effort and looks required

 

[AlexBrown84]

Girls barely even respond to me on OLD here in china

Too lazy to rednotemax

HelloTalk is unusable here since I’m constantly on vpn

Perma incel life for me it is

 

[Xavist]

I'm doing good with beckies but at a certain point you get kinda tired of them and want to upgrade to Htb or low stacies but it's truly a big jump in effort and looks required

So you’re saying that you can only get 6’s and below there easily?
You never get lucky even once in a while with a 7+ chick?

 

[RenaissanceMan]

So you’re saying that you can only get 6’s and below there easily?
You never get lucky even once in a while with a 7+ chick?

I get "easily" mediocre/mid girls, even in China above average girls know their value, they get showered with attention,so yeah I guess you can get lucky sometimes finding an hidden gem but on OLD I highly doubt it. You need something to stand out to reach that tier, be it HTN+/chad looks and/or Chinese language knowledge, money, status etc
Also another factor is that "to get lucky" somewhat reliably you would need to actually live in the country for an extended amount of time, going there for 2 weeks it's not gonna cut it

 

[14passport]

girls that are truly 7+ are on a whole different level compared to a cute 6, and most times to get there they have good genetics but also take very good care of themselves
which means they expect you to do the same

so it's either gonna be some chadlite, rich to upgrade their lifestyle, gym guy + stylish, status... you are not gonna impress those girls as a normie

 

[RenaissanceMan]

girls that are truly 7+ are on a whole different level compared to a cute 6, and most times to get there they have good genetics but also take very good care of themselves
which means they expect you to do the same

so it's either gonna be some chadlite, rich to upgrade their lifestyle, gym guy + stylish, status... you are not gonna impress those girls as a normie

Indeed, I don't think I will ever get to that level, I would be already plenty fine with getting consistently cute 6+/6.5 girls but already those are not as easy to slay on a regular basis as it may appear, even in China (at least for me). It also depends if you have yellow fever or not, a man with a strong preference for Asians maybe has a tendency of being content with slaying mid beckies since he sees them as more attractive than they actually are

 

[Xavist]

I get "easily" mediocre/mid girls, even in China above average girls know their value, they get showered with attention,so yeah I guess you can get lucky sometimes finding an hidden gem but on OLD I highly doubt it. You need something to stand out to reach that tier, be it HTN+/chad looks and/or Chinese language knowledge, money, status etc
Also another factor is that "to get lucky" somewhat reliably you would need to actually live in the country for an extended amount of time, going there for 2 weeks it's not gonna cut it

I honestly think you’re just not spamming the right demographic of Chinese women on the language exchange apps consistently enough lol
Try messaging at least 50-100 a day in the 25-35 age range on both HelloTalk and Tandem while you’re still in the country and then report back to us here with your results…
The time investment required is pretty low for this if you’re really an MTN-HTN range white guy, even if you have a shit profile with one or two boring pictures; the main issue I foresee is that they’ll probably be spread out all over the country however they should tend to be concentrated in the four Tier 1’s from my experience so far…

 

[RenaissanceMan]

I honestly think you’re just not spamming the right demographic of Chinese women on the language exchange apps consistently enough lol
Try messaging at least 50-100 a day in the 25-35 age range on both HelloTalk and Tandem while you’re still in the country and then report back to us here with your results…
The time investment required is pretty low for this if you’re really an MTN-HTN range white guy, even if you have a shit profile with one or two boring pictures; the main issue I foresee is that they’ll probably be spread out all over the country however they should tend to be concentrated in the four Tier 1’s from my experience so far…

I think there is a daily limit of messages you can send in those apps, also I prefer younger girls so not really interested in pursuing 30 years old just to get my dick wet. As I said I get 20 years old Beckies in Asia(also China) with pretty regular consistency, I'm trying to upgrade to cute 20 years old Htb, but I know with my stats it's hard

 

[Xavist]

I think there is a daily limit of messages you can send in those apps, also I prefer younger girls so not really interested in pursuing 30 years old just to get my dick wet. As I said I get 20 years old Beckies in Asia(also China) with pretty regular consistency, I'm trying to upgrade to cute 20 years old Htb, but I know with my stats it's hard

Yeah, prime 7+ girls will be extremely difficult everywhere now but the reason I gave you that age range is because it seems to be the sweet spot for when they’re most interested in foreign men and plenty of them still look young during that time too, along with being thin, so it’s not like they’re all a bunch of saggy land whales like most Western Women in the same age range lol
Also, didn’t you mention that you’re in your early 30’s?

 

[RenaissanceMan]

Yeah, prime 7+ girls will be extremely difficult everywhere now but the reason I gave you that age range is because it seems to be the sweet spot for when they’re most interested in foreign men and plenty of them still look young during that time too, along with being thin, so it’s not like they’re all a bunch of saggy land whales like most Western Women in the same age range lol
Also, didn’t you mention that you’re in your early 30’s?

I'm old but look significantly younger, btw I'm not talking about 7+ girls, I know that level is unreachable for me, I want to get cute 6+/6.5 htb, sometimes I get them so I know they are attainable but very inconsistently.
I rarely fuck/search for women over25, I strongly prefer younger girls, it's almost a deal-breaker for me, maybe it's because I had very little experience when I was younger and subconsciously trying to make up for lost time

 

[Xavist]

I'm old but look significantly younger, btw I'm not talking about 7+ girls, I know that level is unreachable for me, I want to get cute 6+/6.5 htb, sometimes I get them so I know they are attainable but very inconsistently.
I rarely fuck/search for women over25, I strongly prefer younger girls, it's almost a deal-breaker for me, maybe it's because I had very little experience when I was younger and subconsciously trying to make up for lost time

Yeah I get that but age only matters for long term unless she’s truly old looking with visible wrinkles and the like, so maybe give the younger leftover types a try while you’re still there…

 

[Orientalist]

Im also aiming for CQ/Chengdu myself but in case I can't get a job in either and want to cast a wider net, what are some other underrated provinces especially if I want better looking pale and/or curvier chicks?

Changsha seems okay for the latter but chicks aren't as light skinned. I'll probably avoid Wuhan since @Orientalist prev said it's not great.

Dongbei and most other northern areas have winters that are really cold and dry but im thinking peripheral areas near the coast like Shandong(Qingdao)/Jiangsu could be good for that type? Anybody been to Anhui?

Qingdao is epic