Body matters alot.

[masonfrancis]

I’ve been body haloed massively recently.

Muscle mass matters, a fuck ton (if ur already somewhat attractive) in my opinion.


What do you guys think?

 

[masonfrancis]

Even in asia, like i always ask girls im on dates with, what do ur bumble matches or dms look like (ND to ask but idc)

And 9/10 out of ten,it’s just gymmaxed mtn white guys.


Who i see as average but they see as high smv, purely due to body halo.

Not saying if ur ltn and you get big it will help you, it won’t in the slightest.

Think of it more as a multiplier, increasing more and more, the higher psl u r

 

[masonfrancis]

Like do you think a HTN 5’11-6’1 58kg-63kg guy has any in real life presence? Fuck no

 

[nomad]

i believe it matters but not to the extent that many think it does, and that goes both ways. i know a lot of guys, especially normies who think they need to look like david laid. not looking tiny is important imo. like you say here as well, presence is what matters. if you go to the gym 3 times a week you can already have a physique that attracts girls. but i have sseen fags on .org and other places claim that it doesnt matter at all and face is all that mattesr. that is cope and retarded

 

[masonfrancis]

i believe it matters but not to the extent that many think it does, and that goes both ways. i know a lot of guys, especially normies who think they need to look like david laid. not looking tiny is important imo. like you say here as well, presence is what matters. if you go to the gym 3 times a week you can already have a physique that attracts girls. but i have sseen fags on .org and other places claim that it doesnt matter at all and face is all that mattesr. that is cope and retarded

Yeah for just a good amount of muscle and bf% is fine.


But here my point.

First pic is a giga chad who’s a twink


Second pic is a HTN, cleary works out..



Do you really see there smv being that of a 2PSL difference, i don’t….

 

[nomad]

depoot has no appeal anyway but i see your point and agree

if you have any serious experience with women, you know that they will go with option 2 any second of the day

 

[nomad]

.org users will say depoot is a slayer. typical aspie psl thinking

irl slayers know that he is not and has school shooter appeal.

someone like https://www.tiktok.com/@bachbuquen will slay 1000x more than depoot despite him being short and not even remotely close in facial forward growth, zygos, etc. etc

 

[14passport]

I’ve been body haloed massively recently.

Muscle mass matters, a fuck ton (if ur already somewhat attractive) in my opinion.


What do you guys think?

if you watch videos of what women swipe on/like, and what the top ranked dating profiles look like, you'll quickly find out it's either chads or gymmaxxed guys

it matters a lot as a normie because it's one of the few things that can make you ascend and do well on dating apps

(assuming you go for an aesthetic physique and understand the female gaze), you will look a lot better:
-leaner face, fixes your posture, you look better in clothes, it forces you to get your shit together and have a good routine, diet, more confidence....

having said that you can have a gym body and still look like shit:
-many guys for a physique that is not attractive at all, roids, they become way too big...
-many guys only focus on the gym, and neglect everything else

will you be able to fuck any girl you want just because you have a good body?
not at all, and i think in many situations having a gym body wont give you a big advantage (nightclubs, bars, even IRL lots of things are as important, such as face, hairstyle, fashion...)


ive been going to the gym as a MTN, and i can already see lots of benefits, and would recommend it to anyone struggling with dating
i think coupled with some more improvements im working on, i'll be able to do well on dating apps with a well thought profile

 

[14passport]

Even in asia, like i always ask girls im on dates with, what do ur bumble matches or dms look like (ND to ask but idc)
And 9/10 out of ten,it’s just gymmaxed mtn white guys.
Who i see as average but they see as high smv, purely due to body halo.

but they are not really average, the % of chads and chadlites is very low compared to the amount of women going for them
so many women are left with MTN/HTN and they will obviously choose gymmaxxed guys, which is far from the average, its actually a rather small % of guys that have a good looking and aesthetic body (and that know how to show it without looking like a UK lad that only wants to fuck and has no brain)

 

[14passport]

.org users will say depoot is a slayer. typical aspie psl thinking

irl slayers know that he is not and has school shooter appeal.

someone like https://www.tiktok.com/@bachbuquen will slay 1000x more than depoot despite him being short and not even remotely close in facial forward growth, zygos, etc. etc

yeah so many .org and incel communities are obsessed with things that IRL dont even matter
theres some god looksmaxxed guys that depending on the day and angle look like complete shit