Advice Ascension or Rotting?

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as an uncanny LTN manlet, do I drop 200k on surgery with the last hope to ascend? Or just accept my position and disappear in SEA, LATAM.

To fight or to seek peace?

I need craniofacial surgery with implants. Possibly hair transplant… Also I need heavy gymmaxx, and it may not even be enough (I’ll likely need LL at 5 foot 9, since heightlfation over next 2 years.)


Is the juice worth the squeeze? Or do I enjoy my rottmaxxed NEET slum monkey fucker retirement?
 
as an uncanny LTN manlet, do I drop 200k on surgery with the last hope to ascend? Or just accept my position and disappear in SEA, LATAM.

To fight or to seek peace?

I need craniofacial surgery with implants. Possibly hair transplant… Also I need heavy gymmaxx, and it may not even be enough (I’ll likely need LL at 5 foot 9, since heightlfation over next 2 years.)


Is the juice worth the squeeze? Or do I enjoy my rottmaxxed NEET slum monkey fucker retirement?
Just give up…


More pussy for the rest of the geomaxers…
 
Surgeries are so expensive, better just geomax, is way more value for your money.
 
Rotting is better ngl

Yes, let me get half a dozen surgeries, go thru agonizing post surgery (you will understand once you go under the knife for the first time), just so i can have the honor to pay for a MTB drinks

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Rotting is better ngl

Yes, let me get half a dozen surgeries, go thru agonizing post surgery (you will understand once you go under the knife for the first time), just so i can have the honor to pay for a MTB drinks

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I honestly don’t see any realistic long term countries besides European ones, or Vietnam/Thailand through marriage (and learn SOME language). Possibly Japan if you learn the language (birth rate pill is brutal + insulated culture)?

- Philippines & Indonesia & Cambodia too bad QOL
- Taiwan is going to be bombed soon + similar issues to Japan without the expat bubbles
- China is a surveillance state with 50 cameras down your ass, and you’ll be kicked out soon (not where I wanna live long term)
- Korea (lol)
- Latin America besides Chile (and maybe Chile) you’ll be killed one day and imagine living in such disorganization long term (with threats of violence)

This is my full analysis after being around Asia. For me, long term the aforementioned rott-maxxing countries would be Thailand and Vietnam, with a focus on getting citizenship/residency through marriage. Malaysia (Penang) also doable but just boring bleh.

Leaves me with a pretty straightforward list:
- Most European Countries
- Russia
- Japan
- New Zealand
- Chile
- Vietnam
- Thailand

All besides Vietnam/Thailand will require ascension (and be thier will hurt from it). Hey maybe I’m wrong about China being not my speed, and I’m falling for propaganda but that’s just the vibe I get.

Honestly I would say the best value for money place in the world is unequivocally Spain. You actually get good quality for cheap prices. Not SEA cheap but it’s not slop food or slop condos.

Logically ascension makes sense. I’m going to hardmaxx to death and wear lifts, and if I fail… Rott in SEA like I was gonna anyway. Everything else just feels like bonfide tourism for me. Anyone relate?

Like let’s be serious LIVING and not just rousing for weeks/months. Where? Ascending is the only way and I will not be the weak one unwilling to go the lengths.
 
I honestly don’t see any realistic long term countries besides European ones, or Vietnam/Thailand through marriage (and learn SOME language). Possibly Japan if you learn the language (birth rate pill is brutal + insulated culture)?

- Philippines & Indonesia & Cambodia too bad QOL
- Taiwan is going to be bombed soon + similar issues to Japan without the expat bubbles
- China is a surveillance state with 50 cameras down your ass, and you’ll be kicked out soon (not where I wanna live long term)
- Korea (lol)
- Latin America besides Chile (and maybe Chile) you’ll be killed one day and imagine living in such disorganization long term (with threats of violence)

This is my full analysis after being around Asia. For me, long term the aforementioned rott-maxxing countries would be Thailand and Vietnam, with a focus on getting citizenship/residency through marriage. Malaysia (Penang) also doable but just boring bleh.

Leaves me with a pretty straightforward list:
- Most European Countries
- Russia
- Japan
- New Zealand
- Chile
- Vietnam
- Thailand

All besides Vietnam/Thailand will require ascension (and be thier will hurt from it). Hey maybe I’m wrong about China being not my speed, and I’m falling for propaganda but that’s just the vibe I get.

Honestly I would say the best value for money place in the world is unequivocally Spain. You actually get good quality for cheap prices. Not SEA cheap but it’s not slop food or slop condos.

Logically ascension makes sense. I’m going to hardmaxx to death and wear lifts, and if I fail… Rott in SEA like I was gonna anyway. Everything else just feels like bonfide tourism for me. Anyone relate?

Like let’s be serious LIVING and not just rousing for weeks/months. Where? Ascending is the only way and I will not be the weak one unwilling to go the lengths.
your best bet is going to be to improve your looks as much as you can with or without surgeries, improve your NT, go to an asian or latin american country, find a girl to fall in love with you, and take her to a southern european country to live

i really think your NT is preventing you from success. maybe it wont ever be fixed completely but it can at least be improved. having a loyal, loving 5/10 SEA gf isn't the worst fate that you could have

there's also the theory im working on developing further where expat autists have greater success in japan than NT expats regardless of looks so maybe you can find some hikikomori jap too
 
your best bet is going to be to improve your looks as much as you can with or without surgeries, improve your NT, go to an asian or latin american country, find a girl to fall in love with you, and take her to a southern european country to live

i really think your NT is preventing you from success. maybe it wont ever be fixed completely but it can at least be improved. having a loyal, loving 5/10 SEA gf isn't the worst fate that you could have

there's also the theory im working on developing further where expat autists have greater success in japan than NT expats regardless of looks so maybe you can find some hikikomori jap too
No way on that last part since Rance did much better than your average foreign guy there and he seemed quite NT or was just really good at masking plus knew the language, so language skills plus NT seem like basic requirements there even for short term...
 
No way on that last part since Rance did much better than your average foreign guy there and he seemed quite NT or was just really good at masking plus knew the language, so language skills plus NT seem like basic requirements there even for short term...
that's basically what he said to do in japan. japanese girls want a japanese guy in a foreigner's body which is why his success was high. japanese culture is very bizarre so it's simply easier for neurodivergent mfers to max there
 
that's basically what he said to do in japan. japanese girls want a japanese guy in a foreigner's body which is why his success was high. japanese culture is very bizarre so it's simply easier for neurodivergent mfers to max there
Hmm, but versus mainland China for example, there seem to be more requirements for even white guys, and from my limited experience through online platforms, the interest level is significantly lower in the first place; it seems like you need to be a decent looking white guy who knows Japanese and then cold approaches girls in real life there with their own language, otherwise you won't get any attractive girls at least, while in China it's very possible to get attractive girls purely online without knowing the language and you can probably be more aloof/distant and spergy in real life with them and get away with it...
 
Hmm, but versus mainland China for example, there seem to be more requirements for even white guys, and from my limited experience through online platforms, the interest level is significantly lower in the first place; it seems like you need to be a decent looking white guy who knows Japanese and then cold approaches girls in real life there with their own language, otherwise you won't get any attractive girls at least, while in China it's very possible to get attractive girls purely online without knowing the language and you can probably be more aloof/distant and spergy in real life with them and get away with it...
this is why japan is very unique. in china, taiwan, korea, singapore etc the interest is palpable and language won't always be a major barrier because girls from these countries usually speak at least a little english (at least in major cities) plus they're more open. english is pretty much non existent among japanese people even in tokyo plus only mentally ill japanese girls or gaijin hunters are open about their affinity for bwc.

in fact, it may even be safe to say that 80% of japanese girls who deal with white guys are mentally or physically defective in some way. this is because it's so hard for a white guy to conform to their social rules and to obtain a decent level of japanese that if a japanese girl is willing to go against the collective hivemind of her society then there's a problem there somewhere
 
this is why japan is very unique. in china, taiwan, korea, singapore etc the interest is palpable and language won't always be a major barrier because girls from these countries usually speak at least a little english (at least in major cities) plus they're more open. english is pretty much non existent among japanese people even in tokyo plus only mentally ill japanese girls or gaijin hunters are open about their affinity for bwc.

in fact, it may even be safe to say that 80% of japanese girls who deal with white guys are mentally or physically defective in some way. this is because it's so hard for a white guy to conform to their social rules and to obtain a decent level of japanese that if a japanese girl is willing to go against the collective hivemind of her society then there's a problem there somewhere
Oh well; the average there isn't good anyway lol
 

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