Chinese girl told me she thinks white guys in China are losers

[explorer7878]

She is a student in Europe. Yesterday she told me she thinks white guys in China are losers in their home country that's why they go to China because there they get more success and attention. She did not say success with girls specifically but I know she (also) meant that. She then said she likes white guys but only the white guys who live in Europe. She is very smart so there is still hope that not all Chinese girls realise that

 

[Orientalist]

She is a student in Europe. Yesterday she told me she thinks white guys in China are losers in their home country that's why they go to China because there they get more success and attention. She did not say success with girls specifically but I know she (also) meant that. She then said she likes white guys but only the white guys who live in Europe. She is very smart so there is still hope that not all Chinese girls realise that

I mean that's a reason why I glaze China life around chinese people even if it's hard to believe when you're a poor local and it makes the US/West seem worse by comparison. QOL and infrastructure is still better in almost every way. Joke that the CCP is paying you to betray your country and that you feel like you're living in 2040, pretty simple
Like yeah if you "made it" in life you can live in LA, Miami, Silicon Valley, Paris, Milan or whatever these bitches are told is fancy but living in West Virginia instead of being a ""loser back home"" in Shanghai isn't the slightest halo in the galaxy
None of that stuff matters anyways if you present yourself accordingly. It's a global world/economy these days; you can live where you want. If you're in the provinces of the Philippines yeah different story

She is very smart so there is still hope that not all Chinese girls realise that

Jfl

 

[AlexBrown84]

i wonder if this applies to black americans considering we’re bottom of the barrel in smv here in china

if anything, me choosing to live here showcases how im not smurfing in other servers that would be easier, such as Philippines and (supposedly) europe

 

[AlexBrown84]

for example, when i lived in korea, girls would actually approach me

from other JBs when i was 16, to blonde baddies in the MMCA, to milfs when picking up my 김밥

meanwhile here in china, minus the ZOG cities, i’m practically invisible

sure i get matches and messages on tinder but i never respond because I know it will lead to NOTHING !


it’s actually an interesting phenomena, being physically present but invisible at the same time

i rarely experience this. I have to develop new thinking processes to cope

 

[myeyes]

She is a student in Europe. Yesterday she told me she thinks white guys in China are losers in their home country that's why they go to China because there they get more success and attention. She did not say success with girls specifically but I know she (also) meant that. She then said she likes white guys but only the white guys who live in Europe. She is very smart so there is still hope that not all Chinese girls realise that

Mid women also get more attention and success in Europe than Asia even with the Chinese gender gap so she’s the same as them. If she’s pretty than she’s still looking for white guys and is doing mental gymnastics in her head to try and convince herself she’s superior

 

[RenaissanceMan]

She is a student in Europe. Yesterday she told me she thinks white guys in China are losers in their home country that's why they go to China because there they get more success and attention. She did not say success with girls specifically but I know she (also) meant that. She then said she likes white guys but only the white guys who live in Europe. She is very smart so there is still hope that not all Chinese girls realise that

I mean it's not really a great secret dude, chinese girls are very practical and analytical so they know about stuff like that (they do the same going to Europe in search of white guys), so unless you have a very good job (not teaching english) that requires you to be in China or you are a huge Chinaboo (but then you need to know the language) it's pretty clear that white guys are there to slay women and to have it easier compared to US/Europe/Aus. Also, chinese girls have socials as well so they know if a white guy is a good looking one or not (sometimes they don't care since a mediocre white guy is still better than chinese men for some of them)

 

[Orientalist]

I mean it's not really a great secret dude, chinese girls are very practical and analytical so they know about stuff like that (they do the same going to Europe in search of white guys), so unless you have a very good job (not teaching english) that requires you to be in China or you are a huge Chinaboo (but then you need to know the language) it's pretty clear that white guys are there to slay women and to have it easier compared to US/Europe/Aus. Also, chinese girls have socials as well so they know if a white guy is a good looking one or not (sometimes they don't care since a mediocre white guy is still better than chinese men for some of them)

Yeah well said. I gotta move into subject teaching something like compsci/biology ASAP for the better status halo, smh.

 

[14passport]

She is a student in Europe. Yesterday she told me she thinks white guys in China are losers in their home country that's why they go to China because there they get more success and attention. She did not say success with girls specifically but I know she (also) meant that. She then said she likes white guys but only the white guys who live in Europe. She is very smart so there is still hope that not all Chinese girls realise that

lets look it from her POV: a 6/10 chinese girl in Europe will easily get relationships with 7/10 or hookups with 8/10 (tall, fit, educated, good looking white guys), these guys will treat her like a princess because she is exotic
in China she has it impossible to get someone like that because there's very few and in high demand, the best she will be able to get is her looksmatch or 1 point lower, but for these guys she is now a subhuman local and will treat her like a used condom

and yeah english teachers have a bad rep in all Asia, especially if you are trying to date middle class to high class girls, lots of weirdos get into it just to fuck asian girls, and many times to fuck their students
lots of white guys that are losers and think they are gods in Asia, in how they treat women and locals
its not very hard to see she is right, compare the average white guy a chinese girl has access in china vs the average white guy in Europe

even in Thailand or the Philippines you wont impress a middle class girl just being white
which is why most PPBs end up with low class girls that are considered leftovers

good thing is there unlimited demand from asian girls for white guys that arent completely losers and it's quite easy to achieve
if you eliminate all the sexpats desperate for pussy, all the p4p guys, all the unfit guys that dress with sandals and shorts, all the losers that treat locals like garbage... you end up with not much competition at all

 

[EEmaxxer]

^^^ LOLZ. It depends on where in Europe the 6/10 Chinese girl is at. Western Europe like Germany? Sure. But in CE/EE countries like Poland, a 6/10 Chinese girl wouldn't stand out much considering there are many Slavic girls who would fog her hard. I agree with the second part though. If a 7/10 white guy is in China, he can def do better than 6/10 Chinese girl. But then again, 7/10 Euro guy does not need to go to China for women. In my one year living in China, I saw one 7/10 white guy. A Swedish dude. The vast vast majority of white guys there were LTN or MTN white dudes who did okay with the Chinese girls.

 

[AlexBrown84]

8/10 (tall, fit, educated, good looking white guys),

what is considered educated

 

[14passport]

what is considered educated

engineers, lawyers, doctors, business, marketing... speaks multiple languages
not a random guy from the UK that saved 2k by driving trucks and now lives in Thailand for 1 month, or he is an english teacher to party and fuck girls

 

[14passport]

^^^ LOLZ. It depends on where in Europe the 6/10 Chinese girl is at. Western Europe like Germany? Sure. But in CE/EE countries like Poland, a 6/10 Chinese girl wouldn't stand out much considering there are many Slavic girls who would fog her hard. I agree with the second part though. If a 7/10 white guy is in China, he can def do better than 6/10 Chinese girl. But then again, 7/10 Euro guy does not need to go to China for women. In my one year living in China, I saw one 7/10 white guy. A Swedish dude. The vast vast majority of white guys there were LTN or MTN white dudes who did okay with the Chinese girls.

6/10 would do well in EE, lots of asian fetish in Europe, and dating market in the west is completely one sided where women have all the cards
she would definetely do much better than in China going for white guys

 

[explorer7878]

lets look it from her POV: a 6/10 chinese girl in Europe will easily get relationships with 7/10 or hookups with 8/10 (tall, fit, educated, good looking white guys), these guys will treat her like a princess because she is exotic
in China she has it impossible to get someone like that because there's very few and in high demand, the best she will be able to get is her looksmatch or 1 point lower, but for these guys she is now a subhuman local and will treat her like a used condom

and yeah english teachers have a bad rep in all Asia, especially if you are trying to date middle class to high class girls, lots of weirdos get into it just to fuck asian girls, and many times to fuck their students
lots of white guys that are losers and think they are gods in Asia, in how they treat women and locals
its not very hard to see she is right, compare the average white guy a chinese girl has access in china vs the average white guy in Europe

even in Thailand or the Philippines you wont impress a middle class girl just being white
which is why most PPBs end up with low class girls that are considered leftovers

good thing is there unlimited demand from asian girls for white guys that arent completely losers and it's quite easy to achieve
if you eliminate all the sexpats desperate for pussy, all the p4p guys, all the unfit guys that dress with sandals and shorts, all the losers that treat locals like garbage... you end up with not much competition at all

it is not realistic for a 6/10 chinese girl to get a 8/10 white guy in Europe. if she is 6/10 according to chinese standards she is maybe 5/10 according to european standards which means she would get a 5/10 white guy (looksmatched dating is real at least for long term dating in opposition to what incels say). just be exotic does not exist, there is no race that can ascend in Europe.

 

[RenaissanceMan]

it is not realistic for a 6/10 chinese girl to get a 8/10 white guy in Europe. if she is 6/10 according to chinese standards she is maybe 5/10 according to european standards which means she would get a 5/10 white guy (looksmatched dating is real at least for long term dating in opposition to what incels say). just be exotic does not exist, there is no race that can ascend in Europe.

If we are talking hookups she definitively can get a white chad in Europe, especially if she make it easy for him and she is very direct, a lot of dudes have high libido and fuck everything that moves under the sun. If we are talking relationships it's another matter entirely, but i think she could reliably get a guy a point above her, european dating market is insanely bad for men so a nice slim chinese gf is not something a lot of guys are going to dismiss easily

 

[14passport]

it is not realistic for a 6/10 chinese girl to get a 8/10 white guy in Europe. if she is 6/10 according to chinese standards she is maybe 5/10 according to european standards which means she would get a 5/10 white guy (looksmatched dating is real at least for long term dating in opposition to what incels say). just be exotic does not exist, there is no race that can ascend in Europe.

im talking about 6/10 chinese girl european standard, no idea what that would be equivalent in china
and i can assure you she can 100% find hookups with 8/10 guys, relationship with 7/10
lots of guys want to try chinese pussy + they rather fuck anyone than rot at home alone for 1 day

6/10 white girl can get that rather easily, a chinese girl would have it even easier because asians are well liked and very low population

 

[explorer7878]

hookups is different, any 4/10 girl can get hookups with 8/10 white guys as guys tend to fuck everything. but relationships are mostly looksmatched and chinese girls are not in higher demand than white girls in Europe. I would even say in lower demand because most good looking guys I talk to prefer blonde girls and want to date their own race.

 

[14passport]

hookups is different, any 4/10 girl can get hookups with 8/10 white guys as guys tend to fuck everything. but relationships are mostly looksmatched and chinese girls are not in higher demand than white girls in Europe. I would even say in lower demand because most good looking guys I talk to prefer blonde girls and want to date their own race.

that's the point, in China she can't get 8/10 white guys at all, she compares the 5/10 white guy she gets in china vs the 8/10 she gets in europe

the demand for asians in Europe is way higher than the supply, theres definetely an exotic bonus
im not saying they have higher demand than white girls but theres so few, they do very well, same concept as white guys doing well in China even though most chinese girls dont want them

 

[AlexBrown84]

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[Xavist]

^^^ LOLZ. It depends on where in Europe the 6/10 Chinese girl is at. Western Europe like Germany? Sure. But in CE/EE countries like Poland, a 6/10 Chinese girl wouldn't stand out much considering there are many Slavic girls who would fog her hard. I agree with the second part though. If a 7/10 white guy is in China, he can def do better than 6/10 Chinese girl. But then again, 7/10 Euro guy does not need to go to China for women. In my one year living in China, I saw one 7/10 white guy. A Swedish dude. The vast vast majority of white guys there were LTN or MTN white dudes who did okay with the Chinese girls.

Did those LTN-MTN white guys ever pull HTB+ Chinese girls at all or nah?
What did you observe?

 

[EEmaxxer]

I saw successful, well presented MTN guys can get HTB+. The YouTuber serpentza and his wife is a good example. But to be frank these guys can also get a white HTB+ too albeit they probably have to work harder for them.

The LTNs mostly got MTBs at best.

 

[explorer7878]

I saw successful, well presented MTN guys can get HTB+. The YouTuber serpentza and his wife is a good example. But to be frank these guys can also get a white HTB+ too albeit they probably have to work harder for them.

The LTNs mostly got MTBs at best.

you think serpentza is a MTN ? I would say HTN at least for his age. and his wife may even be a MTB in the west

 

[Rance]

you think serpentza is a MTN ? I would say HTN at least for his age. and his wife may even be a MTB in the west
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HTN who got norwood reaper'd to MTN, imo. Actually, idk what's going on with his hair or why he shaves it like that, and those goofy ass sideburns

He and laowai have a funny video where they talk about reactions from Chinese guys towards their wives. Apparently the guys online tell laowai "your wife is a jungle monkey, you can have her" but they rage and seethe over serpentza's wife because she's beautiful

 

[Yuezhi]

HTN who got norwood reaper'd to MTN, imo. Actually, idk what's going on with his hair or why he shaves it like that, and those goofy ass sideburns

He and laowai have a funny video where they talk about reactions from Chinese guys towards their wives. Apparently the guys online tell laowai "your wife is a jungle monkey, you can have her" but they rage and seethe over serpentza's wife because she's beautiful

Yeah I think I remember watching that video where they mention that. Id rate his wife borderline HTB when she was younger and while Serpentza is better looking than laowhy, that guy really dug through the bottom of the barrel when he went for his wife. Probably the classic case of wifing up the first girl that showed interest.

Their advchina channel as well as reading RVF threads was actually what got me interested in the country in the first place. Shame about what happened to it after they got "kicked out" but it was really something special back in the 2010s in terms of showing off what living in the country was actually like on youtube although you could tell they were both jaded by the end of it.

 

[myeyes]

I saw successful, well presented MTN guys can get HTB+. The YouTuber serpentza and his wife is a good example. But to be frank these guys can also get a white HTB+ too albeit they probably have to work harder for them.

The LTNs mostly got MTBs at best.

LTNs getting MTBs is good. In the west it’s a perilous struggle getting anything that isn’t a hambeast

 

[Xavist]

LTNs getting MTBs is good. In the west it’s a perilous struggle getting anything that isn’t a hambeast

Right, I strongly agree lol

 

[Xavist]

Yeah I think I remember watching that video where they mention that. Id rate his wife borderline HTB when she was younger and while Serpentza is better looking than laowhy, that guy really dug through the bottom of the barrel when he went for his wife. Probably the classic case of wifing up the first girl that showed interest.

Their advchina channel as well as reading RVF threads was actually what got me interested in the country in the first place. Shame about what happened to it after they got "kicked out" but it was really something special back in the 2010s in terms of showing off what living in the country was actually like on youtube although you could tell they were both jaded by the end of it.

Is “RVF” the Roosh V Forum?
What did the users on there say about China and/or Asia in general back then?
I’m assuming pre-Covid in the 2010’s mostly as well is when most of the posts were made and when most users had their experiences there too?

 

[Orientalist]

Yeah I think I remember watching that video where they mention that. Id rate his wife borderline HTB when she was younger and while Serpentza is better looking than laowhy, that guy really dug through the bottom of the barrel when he went for his wife. Probably the classic case of wifing up the first girl that showed interest.

Their advchina channel as well as reading RVF threads was actually what got me interested in the country in the first place. Shame about what happened to it after they got "kicked out" but it was really something special back in the 2010s in terms of showing off what living in the country was actually like on youtube although you could tell they were both jaded by the end of it.

The all-time classic:

I think she looks pretty okay from the front though ngl, but brutal profile.
Where in China do they look like this so I know to avoid it

 

[Rance]

The all-time classic:
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I think she looks pretty okay from the front though ngl, but brutal profile.
Where in China do they look like this so I know to avoid it

Plugging my thread where I autistically decided to make a composite of female phenotypes across Asia from http://humanphenotypes.net/

Spoiler

Thread 'I made a composite of human phenotypes in East Asia based on my own opinion'

Feb 3, 2025

Takeaway: phenotypes from northern China, Korea, and Japan are the best looking. This is further north than I would have imagined and captures most of Inner Mongolia, which I did not expect.

I considered every phenotype which has at least a minority population in the East Asian region, subjectively. In total, 31 phenotypes were evaluated, listed below. Only females were evaluated. All from http://humanphenotypes.net/

Opinion data:

Sinid

• Choshiu: 10/10
• Huanghoid: 8/10
• Yakonin: 8/10
• Changkiangid: 7/10
• Annamid: 6/10
• Kham: 5/10...

• Rance
• Replies: 14
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I mean you know, it I know it, we all know it... the further south you go the more girls look like her. Beyond the dark skin, wide nose, and big lips, she also has teeth which are clearly sundadont in type:

 

[Orientalist]

I mean you know, it I know it, we all know it

This is true. While phenotypes are a historical product of climate, etc. I just like to imagine there's a little more complexity to it in actual demography in the real world. Just gotta wonder what extent this divide between being ethnically "from the south" and actually living in the south plays out in the real world, especially in T1 cities and somewhere like China with so much centralized planning. Anything besides geography is probably barely a factor tho lol.
At the very least the reality is that there's ultimately still a lot of ethnic hetorogeneity in China (relatively speaking - asians themselves aren't particularly diverse compared to other races IIRC) no matter where you are geographically. Not like every girl who currently resides in Guangzhou or Vietnam looks like that, especially not the hot ones you pass by and take a look at lol

 

[jar crib]

^^^ LOLZ. It depends on where in Europe the 6/10 Chinese girl is at. Western Europe like Germany? Sure. But in CE/EE countries like Poland, a 6/10 Chinese girl wouldn't stand out much considering there are many Slavic girls who would fog her hard. I agree with the second part though. If a 7/10 white guy is in China, he can def do better than 6/10 Chinese girl. But then again, 7/10 Euro guy does not need to go to China for women. In my one year living in China, I saw one 7/10 white guy. A Swedish dude. The vast vast majority of white guys there were LTN or MTN white dudes who did okay with the Chinese girls.

You're wrong. A chinese girl stands out a lot more in CE/EE because there are almost no chinese girls there. Source : I've been there.

 

[EEmaxxer]

LOLZ. Please...

CE/EE men vastly prefer their own women over any other...including western women...and why wouldn't they. They are def the most attractive women in the world on average. I guess on a forum like this where lots of dudes seem to be priced out of the white girl market, it makes sense to kinda put Asian women on the pedestal cause those are the ones that give you the most attention. Sorry, but that isn't the case at all in CE/EE.

Source: I currently live in CE/EE and have been living in CE/EE for the past several years.

 

[AlexBrown84]

LOLZ. Please...

CE/EE men vastly prefer their own women over any other...including western women...and why wouldn't they. They are def the most attractive women in the world on average. I guess on a forum like this where lots of dudes seem to be priced out of the white girl market, it makes sense to kinda put Asian women on the pedestal cause those are the ones that give you the most attention. Sorry, but that isn't the case at all in CE/EE.

Source: I currently live in CE/EE and have been living in CE/EE for the past several years.

asian girls are cuter, whites are hotter

like comparing house cats vs leopards

 

[EEmaxxer]

I get it man. Everyone got their preferences. But I'm addressing to the claim of a Chinese girl standing out more than the local Slavic girls in CE/EE.

 

[14passport]

LOLZ. Please...

CE/EE men vastly prefer their own women over any other...including western women...and why wouldn't they. They are def the most attractive women in the world on average. I guess on a forum like this where lots of dudes seem to be priced out of the white girl market, it makes sense to kinda put Asian women on the pedestal cause those are the ones that give you the most attention. Sorry, but that isn't the case at all in CE/EE.

Source: I currently live in CE/EE and have been living in CE/EE for the past several years.

i mean that happens everywhere (local men prefering local women), and not the point we are making

a chinese girl in EE stands out a lot because she is 1 out of 500, we are not saying she is hotter than local girls

asian girls have big niche everywhere

and EE women being the most attractive is completely subjective, lots of people would prefer latinas or asians
asians are a lot cuter and mog in terms of fashion style and attitude