The geomaxing era is ending

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Too many desperate Western men are now flocking to Asia (everywhere) and have ruined these places for everybody. They think that JBW still work but in reality they date the leftovers that local men didn't want to date. It's so full of these men dating 4s and 5s and these idiots are even happy about it. It's not worth your time anymore flying halfway across to globe to Asia in search of girls....if you could date 7s and 8s easily it would make sense, but if you go there to date 4s and 5s fuck no. If you actually notice your surrounding when you go out you see that all the beautiful local girls are with a local guy.

It used to be that only Bali and Thai islands were ruined, now I'd say all Asia is getting ruined. Things are deteriorating very fast it's crazy.

Honestly at this point I'd rather stay within the EU and go to Poland or Hungary than going to Thailand and other places in Asia. The geomaxing game in Asia has entered the final phase, when everybody flocks to a place it's already ruined
 
it's just more of a motivation to improve your looks and NT. asian women are gonna be used to seeing sub5s who cant hold a conversation so once a good looking jbw strolls through and can talk about things that arent sex it's a wrap
 
It's probably only a matter of time before they shit up Santiago and Valpo like they did with Buenos Aires and Mexico City. For now, it's only refugees culturally enriching the place. But they'll come when they realize it's more bang for your buck there over BA.
 
JohnGotti said:
It's probably only a matter of time before they shit up Santiago and Valpo like they did with Buenos Aires and Mexico City. For now, it's only refugees culturally enriching the place. But they'll come when they realize it's more bang for your buck there over BA.
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If i was able to slay in BA back in 2022, would I be invisible today
 
AlexBrown84 said:
If i was able to slay in BA back in 2022, would I be invisible today
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I'd say so. But feels like I was scrapping for mids compared to what I had in Brazil and Chile, and half the girls weren't Argentinian.

I think a good rule of thumb for an easy cunt is: how willing are the girls to show you around? In the case of small towns or large cities in Argentina, not even the uggos really cared.
 
Stellar_Travels said:
Too many desperate Western men are now flocking to Asia (everywhere) and have ruined these places for everybody. They think that JBW still work but in reality they date the leftovers that local men didn't want to date. It's so full of these men dating 4s and 5s and these idiots are even happy about it. It's not worth your time anymore flying halfway across to globe to Asia in search of girls....if you could date 7s and 8s easily it would make sense, but if you go there to date 4s and 5s fuck no. If you actually notice your surrounding when you go out you see that all the beautiful local girls are with a local guy.

It used to be that only Bali and Thai islands were ruined, now I'd say all Asia is getting ruined. Things are deteriorating very fast it's crazy.

Honestly at this point I'd rather stay within the EU and go to Poland or Hungary than going to Thailand and other places in Asia. The geomaxing game in Asia has entered the final phase, when everybody flocks to a place it's already ruined
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I'm in China right now in a tier 2 city and as a MTN white guy (maybe edging to HTN on a good day) my results without knowing chinese and relying on online dating have been really underwhelming, always falling into the Becky tier girls trap, htbeckies and low tier stacies seem really unreachable. I'm pretty surprised, I thought China outside Shanghai and Beijing would be better, I see very few tourists but i'm basically having Japan or Korea tier results with all the hassle and problems of being in China compared to comfy Japan. I guess knowing chinese and cold approaching are REALLY key if you are subchad
 
RenaissanceMan said:
I'm in China right now in a tier 2 city and as a MTN white guy (maybe edging to HTN on a good day) my results without knowing chinese and relying on online dating have been really underwhelming, always falling into the Becky tier girls trap, htbeckies and low tier stacies seem really unreachable. I'm pretty surprised, I thought China outside Shanghai and Beijing would be better, I see very few tourists but i'm basically having Japan or Korea tier results with all the hassle and problems of being in China compared to comfy Japan. I guess knowing chinese and cold approaching are REALLY key if you are subchad
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Which city if you don’t mind me asking
 
AlexBrown84 said:
Wow that’s a surprise, had pretty alright results while there

Thought you were gonna say some bumpkin city like nanning or guiyang
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Maybe I'm just getting older and uglier, even tho I see lots of girls interested while I walk outside but yeah online the situation is grim to say the least. Gotta run clubmaxxing or daygame approach
 
FoidGrabber said:
Yeah pretty good summary. Supply and demand mechanics. E-simping is also at an all time high. I’ve said this for ages holy shit, anywhere that’s not a total shithole sucks.
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Yes, now you can just geomax to Asia while living comfortably at home and then fly there once you find some girls to fuck. Men in the West are THAT desperate. Your competition in Thailand and Asia as a whole for online game is very big. And when you look around you find men dating 4s and 5s and they think that's great. These men are retarded

I remember going to China before Covid and women were inviting me at their table, pay for my drinks, give me compliments all the time....now they simply don't care. You have to be good looking to be noticed by any good looking Chinese woman.

It's shit everywhere, might as well remain in Europe so you don't have to approach monkeys. The ultimate goal is getting rich and once you're high net worth you can build a social circle by playing IG max (use money to pimp your profile with high status pics in the best places in the world) and connecting to other high status people. That's what I'm doing and why I'm so busy recently, I'm managing 3 activities: my main trading activities and 2 online businesses
 
why is everyone allergic to putting in some effort?

JBW only carries you so much

i like asian girls but if you showed me a short chubby japanese girl that wears no makeup and dirty hair, i wouldn't fuck her
the same applies to asian girls that like europeans, they dont want a chubby guy with a neckbeard, they are not stupid

why do you expect top women anywhere in the world to be with you if you can't even bother dressing like a non NPC or putting more than 10 minutes into your dating profile?
 
Stellar_Travels said:
Yes, now you can just geomax to Asia while living comfortably at home and then fly there once you find some girls to fuck. Men in the West are THAT desperate. Your competition in Thailand and Asia as a whole for online game is very big. And when you look around you find men dating 4s and 5s and they think that's great. These men are retarded

I remember going to China before Covid and women were inviting me at their table, pay for my drinks, give me compliments all the time....now they simply don't care. You have to be good looking to be noticed by any good looking Chinese woman.

It's shit everywhere, might as well remain in Europe so you don't have to approach monkeys. The ultimate goal is getting rich and once you're high net worth you can build a social circle by playing IG max (use money to pimp your profile with high status pics in the best places in the world) and connecting to other high status people. That's what I'm doing and why I'm so busy recently, I'm managing 3 activities: my main trading activities and 2 online businesses
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they are desperate because they don't even get 1s in the west
those kinds of guys get 0 women, i mean literally 0

so going from that to being able to choose between 100s of 4s and 5s its very good for them

and they are used to spend a lot of money so they dont give a fuck about that
 
14passport said:
why is everyone allergic to putting in some effort?

JBW only carries you so much

i like asian girls but if you showed me a short chubby japanese girl that wears no makeup and dirty hair, i wouldn't fuck her
the same applies to asian girls that like europeans, they dont want a chubby guy with a neckbeard, they are not stupid

why do you expect top women anywhere in the world to be with you if you can't even bother dressing like a non NPC or putting more than 10 minutes into your dating profile?
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Doesn't work, everybody is doing that
Gotta use a social circle to find high value women these days, basically you have to take advantage of preselection. Online dating only work if you're legit Chadlite now

Also in 2025 Europe >>>> Asia for the effort/high quality ratio
 
Stellar_Travels said:
Doesn't work, everybody is doing that
Gotta use a social circle to find high value women these days, basically you have to take advantage of preselection. Online dating only work if you're legit Chadlite now

Also in 2025 Europe >>>> Asia for the effort/high quality ratio
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that's bullshit, of course it works if you are willing to put in some effort
have you seen the average dating profile?

i posted yesterday a video of a guy and he was gettings 100s of matches, and he is very far from chadlite

the only guy that showed me his dating profile in this forum, it was extremely bad and why he wasnt getting good matches at all
 
14passport said:
they are desperate because they don't even get 1s in the west
those kinds of guys get 0 women, i mean literally 0

so going from that to being able to choose between 100s of 4s and 5s its very good for them

and they are used to spend a lot of money so they dont give a fuck about that
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Problem is almost all average looking guys in the West can't get anything these days, the desperation has reached crazy levels. Asia is absolutely invaded by perfectly average looking guys looking for local women. And in some places there are lots of HTN and Chadlites....places like Thailand and Bali. So you either go to a legit shithole in the province where you might not even get proper electricity or forget about it for easy lays with good looking local women
 
14passport said:
that's bullshit, of course it works if you are willing to put in some effort
have you seen the average dating profile?

i posted yesterday a video of a guy and he was gettings 100s of matches, and he is very far from chadlite

the only guy that showed me his dating profile in this forum, it was extremely bad and why he wasnt getting good matches at all
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Who cares about how many matches somebody gets, if it's Thailand or the Philippines they're so many ladyboys in those dating app. And the vast majority of girls on dating app are ugly and you have to swipe left. The ones that are good looking might not even reply to you. If it was that easy you'd see foreigners dating good looking local women instead the only thing you see when you meet these men in shopping malls and bars are they dating absolute monkeys, girls that are 4s or 5s at the very most
 
Stellar_Travels said:
Problem is almost all average looking guys in the West can't get anything these days, the desperation has reached crazy levels. Asia is absolutely invaded by perfectly average looking guys looking for local women. And in some places there are lots of HTN and Chadlites....places like Thailand and Bali. So you either go to a legit shithole in the province where you might not even get proper electricity or forget about it for easy lays with good looking local women
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yeah i understand that, and compared to the good days it must suck
but saying it's not worth it because most guys expect to post 3 quick selfies and fuck models is dumb

people make up all kinds of excuses before having to look at themselves and improve
 
Stellar_Travels said:
Who cares about how many matches somebody gets, if it's Thailand or the Philippines they're so many ladyboys in those dating app. And the vast majority of girls on dating app are ugly and you have to swipe left. The ones that are good looking might not even reply to you. If it was that easy you'd see foreigners dating good looking local women instead the only thing you see when you meet these men in shopping malls and bars are they dating absolute monkeys, girls that are 4s or 5s at the very most
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because it shows it still works way better than the west
if some guy can put up a bad profile and get good results

most foreigners will date 5s because they are dumb as a rock, thats what im saying
use your brain and you outplay 99% of them
 
my thoughts:

-the good old days are over, with social media and remote work, it will never come back
-for new geomaxxers the results are still very worth it, because in the west its very hard to get women as an average guy, you can go months and months without fucking even if you use dating apps and go to clubs
-from what I can see the competition is still extremely low in big geomaxx cities, and a few hours per week of work/research will allow you to pretty much outrank 99% of them on dating apps (assuming you aren't extremely fucked due to genetics)
-if your only metric for success is fucking 7s+ without putting any effort, then its not gonna be worth it for you
 
I've been to those places many times. You need to realize that the majority of these girls don't date foreigners, they want to date local men...and local good looking girls can find a local high quality guys so the dating pool of beautiful girls already shrink a lot. Then, depending to where you're in Asia, the amount of beautiful girls can be already very low. In the Philippines for example a good 80% of the girls you see on dating apps are below 6 and you end up swiping left all the times
It just takes a couple of good looking guys and that's how your experience gets ruined in those places. Women behavior on dating apps is different than men, they don't swipe right to everybody....they swipe right to 5 men out of 100 (more or less), so you don't have to be in a place full of Chads to have your experience ruined. Not to mention these guys might very well not even be in the country, they geolocate in that country from the West and once they gather some good matches they book a flight and go.

Online game is truly a scam now for people that want beautiful women, they need a social circle. And if you're going to put in the effort, you better do it in Europe rather than going after some monkeys in Asia
 
Stellar_Travels said:
the majority of these girls don't date foreigners, they want to date local men...
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It depends on the country. Thailand and the Philippines the dating pool is huge, and they love foreigners, i would say the vast majority are open to it if you meet their standards. What most people get wrong is they think those women have no standards simply because they live in a poor country, when in reality the vast majority of the population are normal girls and want someone high quality, not your average PPB. You wont buy them with some money or running JBW. I can tell you most foreigners in Asia would simply be disqualified because of how they treat women, racist, they think they are superior or a uneducated dumbass that is lucky to have money because of the US.

Stellar_Travels said:
local good looking girls can find a local high quality guys so the dating pool of beautiful girls already shrink a lot
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True, and that happens everywhere in the world. If your only objective is to land those girls, geomaxx is not an easy cheat code to get that.

Stellar_Travels said:
In the Philippines for example a good 80% of the girls you see on dating apps are below 6 and you end up swiping left all the times
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Then why go there if you don't like them? It makes no sense, of course you are going to have bad results somewhere where you think 80% of the dating pool is below a 6, and expect to date top girls just because you are foreigner.

Stellar_Travels said:
they don't swipe right to everybody....they swipe right to 5 men out of 100 (more or less)
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true in the west but in SEA countries where you have an advantage, they swipe a lot more and its easier to become part of the 5%
 
Its really funny I see depressed 40 years old trying to geomax and then into their 50s.... also guys in 30s but they can find a good woman
 
Why do people say Europe isn't that hard? What if you’re a manlet? In Australia I got basically zero women
 
I think the era of being able to date up with decent effort via geomaxxing has come to an end. Guys are geomaxxing to simply date their SMV matched female with a decent personality. The current dating landscape has turned the attractive women into having internet standards. Basically they only want high value guys in terms of Looks Money Status. If you are in the normie tier looks, this means to get your money up big time if you wanna consistently date the attractive girls.
 
RenaissanceMan said:
Maybe I'm just getting older and uglier, even tho I see lots of girls interested while I walk outside but yeah online the situation is grim to say the least. Gotta run clubmaxxing or daygame approach
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Why aren't you approaching then if you're saying that on the street many girls are showing interest? There's still bound to be a few girls that speak a little English in the malls and whatnot.

Of course speaking Mandarin would help no doubt and 2nd tier China is probably quite easy if you do.

You can't judge a place only by online game and the doom and gloom posts start making more sense when you consider that many guys experiences are from mostly using apps, yeah of course its going to be harder as online dating has declined everywhere.
 
myeyes said:
Why do people say Europe isn't that hard? What if you’re a manlet? In Australia I got basically zero women
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Europe is very hard, pretty much impossible without a social circle to date even just an average looking woman (as an average looking guy)
But I'd rather invest in building a social circle in Europe than going to Asia and bang a couple of used up monkeys that are 4s and 5s or even worse to have to end up in some major shithole in the Philippines province where you might not even have reliable electricity.
 
EEmaxxer said:
I think the era of being able to date up with decent effort via geomaxxing has come to an end. Guys are geomaxxing to simply date their SMV matched female with a decent personality. The current dating landscape has turned the attractive women into having internet standards. Basically they only want high value guys in terms of Looks Money Status. If you are in the normie tier looks, this means to get your money up big time if you wanna consistently date the attractive girls.
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Yes and many guys in Asia don't even date their looksmatch, I see them all the time dating absolute monkeys, girls that local guys don't want to date. That's the reality of geomaxing in Asia is in 2025, that's why I believe it's retarded
 
EEmaxxer said:
I think the era of being able to date up with decent effort via geomaxxing has come to an end. Guys are geomaxxing to simply date their SMV matched female with a decent personality. The current dating landscape has turned the attractive women into having internet standards. Basically they only want high value guys in terms of Looks Money Status. If you are in the normie tier looks, this means to get your money up big time if you wanna consistently date the attractive girls.
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You guys should lock in your gfs and loyal girls for life before its too late
 
Stellar_Travels said:
Europe is very hard, pretty much impossible without a social circle to date even just an average looking woman (as an average looking guy)
But I'd rather invest in building a social circle in Europe than going to Asia and bang a couple of used up monkeys that are 4s and 5s or even worse to have to end up in some major shithole in the Philippines province where you might not even have reliable electricity.
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Its better to build a social circle and better quality than swiping dating apps with girls that haven't seen a airfryer or oven in their life
 
younglivinglife said:
Its better to build a social circle and better quality than swiping dating apps with girls that haven't seen a airfryer or oven in their life
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Yes, that's what I think.
In the past a LTR or MTN who got close to zero results in online dating in the West, could go to Asia and run online game and fuck many decent looking women with little to no effort while staying in Bangkok or be in Shanghai or Taipei ecc.

Now geomaxing has become mainstream and there are hundreds of thousands of people doing it so it doesn't work anymore. All the good locations like Bangkok or Bali are crowded beyond beliefs of these guys. So many of them geolocate there from the West. So you can't run online game with great results like in the past, it makes no sense to be there anymore.

As people are getting more and more desperate they're now moving to absolute ridiculous shitholes....Vietnam rural areas, rural Cambogia, Myanmar or Philippines provinces....places where you might not even get reliable electricity, let alone good, sanitary food or good accommodation. You might even die there if you get food poisoning as hospitals suck. How fucking desperate men have gotten to go there? That's beyond being total losers.
I'd rather fuck escorts if I had to resort to go in the jungle to look for a girl
 
Stellar_Travels said:
Yes, that's what I think.
In the past a LTR or MTN who got close to zero results in online dating in the West, could go to Asia and run online game and fuck many decent looking women with little to no effort while staying in Bangkok or be in Shanghai or Taipei ecc.

Now geomaxing has become mainstream and there are hundreds of thousands of people doing it so it doesn't work anymore. All the good locations like Bangkok or Bali are crowded beyond beliefs of these guys. So many of them geolocate there from the West. So you can't run online game with great results like in the past, it makes no sense to be there anymore.

As people are getting more and more desperate they're now moving to absolute ridiculous shitholes....Vietnam rural areas, rural Cambogia, Myanmar or Philippines provinces....places where you might not even get reliable electricity, let alone good, sanitary food or good accommodation. You might even die there if you get food poisoning as hospitals suck. How fucking desperate men have gotten to go there? That's beyond being total losers.
I'd rather fuck escorts if I had to resort to go in the jungle to look for a girl
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At this point its a lot of effort to bassicaly sleep with above average girls when you could LTR a girl like that in home country. It makes no sense nowadays there. Its gotten more competitive and guys throw money around

Im shocked some people moved to Thailand. One of them has a kid now but is still using dating apps.
They have to get their standards WAAAAY lower in past 2 years. It saved me a lot of money on my travels. Im actually shocked when I got confidence from Asia and went to talk to women I was intrested in Europe. I had or have good chances there.

A lot of people's life goals here is sleeping with a girl whos not gf or wife material and usually not even good looking then going back to home country.
That's not Geomaxxing. That's waste of time.
 
Stellar_Travels said:
Yes, now you can just geomax to Asia while living comfortably at home and then fly there once you find some girls to fuck. Men in the West are THAT desperate.
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this literally the game today. that's the whole point of meeting girls on ig, rednote, hellotalk etc is to establish a relationship then meet up. people are always posting their "international love story" or "love knows no borders" stories

this situation gets iffy once a guy meets a girl from latin america or SEA who can't afford a ticket to meet him halfway
 
geneblackman said:
this literally the game today. that's the whole point of meeting girls on ig, rednote, hellotalk etc is to establish a relationship then meet up. people are always posting their "international love story" or "love knows no borders" stories

this situation gets iffy once a guy meets a girl from latin america or SEA who can't afford a ticket to meet him halfway
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Yes and that's why I say it's not worth it anymore. In the past it wasn't like that, that's why it was easier. I used to travel a lot in Asia and Bangkok used to be my base before Covid. It was a breeze to get girls, and I'm not talking about the 4s and 5s that the "geomaxers" are happy to bang now.
But that was because Thailand back then was popular only for fat and old men...and people didn't geolocate there in mass with dating apps from Europe/US.

Now it's the opposite, the fucking retards that now travel to Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines, Bali think it's the same as before. Meanwhile everything changed. Those places are now packed with guys from the West, not to mention all the thousands of guys that geolocate there from the West on dating apps. So for the average loser the competition isn't only the men that are right now in Thailand or the Philippines, but all the other ones that are in the West. Everybody is geolocating there. Easy lays from dating apps with good looking Asian girls aren't happening anymore.

But everybody wants to use dating apps because they don't want to approach girls in real life, they are afraid of doing it. But if you actually take a plane to go to Thailand and the Philippines at the very least you should exploit the nightlife...because all the thousands of men that geolocate to these countries are competition for you in the online dating but not in the clubs and bars.
Although, again, there are tons of Western men now physically in Thailand and Philippines too so bars and clubs aren't easy either in Bangkok, thai islands, Bali ecc...but at least you don't have to deal with that massive competition online
 
it's time to adapt then. since things are changing it's time to simply ditch SEA. maybe it's time to pivot back to east asia. there are still a decent amount of dudes busted in the face who are finding LTRs in china, japan and korea. i see it on hellotalk and rednote all the time where guys are getting their looksmatch or punching above their weight.

the reason why people think asia is hard is because they all want to slay while speaking only english but that isn't a big thing there compared to the west so they get disappointed
 
geneblackman said:
it's time to adapt then. since things are changing it's time to simply ditch SEA. maybe it's time to pivot back to east asia. there are still a decent amount of dudes busted in the face who are finding LTRs in china, japan and korea. i see it on hellotalk and rednote all the time where guys are getting their looksmatch or punching above their weight.

the reason why people think asia is hard is because they all want to slay while speaking only english but that isn't a big thing there compared to the west so they get disappointed
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EA is literally just as saturated as SEA especially the major cities like Tokyo, Seoul and Shanghai, we just need to accept that it's over at this point
 
OliveNotBrown said:
EA is literally just as saturated as SEA especially the major cities like Tokyo, Seoul and Shanghai, we just need to accept that it's over at this point
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it's not gg yet. i already found my han princess so im out of the game soon so you guys can too. keep up the good fight
 
OliveNotBrown said:
EA is literally just as saturated as SEA especially the major cities like Tokyo, Seoul and Shanghai, we just need to accept that it's over at this point
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Nah EA >>>>> SEA

China will never be over for the foreseeable future as long as you are willing to approach and learn Chinese. It can never be saturated just because of its population. @Rance said that Japan is still fine and outside of Tokyo im sure its great if you learn Japanese as it has a high population.

Korea and Taiwan still seem decent as well these days and most normies pick Tokyo or SEA over Taipei let alone the other cities.
 
Yuezhi said:
China will never be over for the foreseeable future as long as you are willing to approach and learn Chinese. It can never be saturated just because of its population
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This is a fairly grounded argument if we assume that the white male population is sub 10% until we account for hardmaxxing/softmaxxing semi-whites and ethnics that can pass as white or fit asian beauty standards, that's a considerable portion and a massive increase in supply contrary to the there's more asian women than white men theory.
 
EA really just has better quality all around. i'd take a 6/10 jap and learning japanese to a B2 level over a 8/10 sea monkey without learning their language
 
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